Is my problem the ATI 4870, monitor, RAM or processor, etc.

Hi
I've only had my 2.93 8 core for 2 days, so it's still virgin; i.e., I haven't installed major apps or the Sonnet E4P yet. I'm using the Apple wireless keyboard and a razer mouse is connected to my main 30" HD display. The 2nd display is the new 24" LED connected to the Mini Display port. I replaced my stock memory with 16G's of OWC ram and added 3 1T drives. The computer is hooked up to a cable modem via an ethernet network.
My problem is that my web pages now "hang" in safari and don't continue to load. I tried updating to safari 4 beta with no improvement. So, I uninstalled/reinstalled back to safari 3.2.1.
My 2005 G5 2.7/ X850XT/7G ram and my 2006 duo 15" MBP/3G ram don't hang.
I would have expected my new fully loaded, ridiculously expensive machine to perform 5x better, not worse.
I tested late night and in the middle of the night, so it's not about the server or network bandwidth -- or the cables.
Any thoughts on the source of my problem?
My website is: www.wildliferhythms.com.
Note: the intro is long because some companies like to keep it running as a slideshow. Any of the galleries can be run in slideshow mode as well and they also hang - but only on this new computer.
Thanks in advance for sharing any insights.....
Chris

Thanks for the TriBackUp tip. I've been slow to adopt back-up/synch software - i.e., I bought/never used Retrospect and only tried SuperDuper for a month - because I haven't been confident about data verification; i.e., I don't want to find out that I have a damaged file months/years after the good file has been superceded. OTOH, some say that these tools are more accurate than manually copying folders via the finder. Note: I compare bytes and the # of items after I manually do 2 back-ups (one internal sata and one esata). I just order a new bootable FW drive to use as a 3rd back-up copy.
Does TriBackUp Pro have reliable verification? Accuracy is more important to me than speed or convenience.

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hi thx for the reply
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