Is Netweaver Mobile still necessary with the latest SUP?

I am confused about how or if Netweaver Mobile fits into the architecture if you are using the latest version of SUP. I saw this thread (future Netweaver Mobile and SyBase Unwired Plataform) a few months ago and got the impression that it is no longer needed. I am assuming that if we bring SUP in-house, that we won't need to also standup Netweaver Mobile. Is this true?

Hi Timothy,
well, he is right in a way - but one thing: what is SUP DOE? There is no SUP DOE as such and there will not be as I was told here at TechEd by SAP representatives.
So: it is correct, NW Mobile will not be further developed.Bug fixing yes, but no further development as such. Perhaps it gets obsolete in the future, as SUP is getting better - okay. But it will always be there for the next years and if SAP wants to get rid of it, they need to give clients a way to migrate to another solution. So even there is no further dev it will not get switched off at some point in the future. And: with NWM7.3 we have a big development in NWM to allow a better integration with SUP out of the box.
So if you want to use CRM mobile, you need the following landscape to deploy it (for example):
1.) ECC Backend (your CRM Backend, off course you need this)
2.) Netweaver Mobile 7.3 (This is the DOE part, including ESDMA)
3.) Sybase SUP
Well, you need to connect SUP and NWM7.1 together. To do this you need to install a DOE-Connector in Sybase. The NWM7.3 contains the counter part to DOE-C which is the ESDMA stuff. This is now included in NWM7.3. If you run still NWM7.1 you need to install that piece of connector as a separate add on.
So to summ this up: the SAP representative was either unclear to you at this point or he should read the documentation again. Sorry I have to say it this way, but you definetly need NWM if you are running CRM and the DOC part will not be included in the SUP. We have seen the SUP development agenda for the next releases to come, there was nothing like that mentioned. Even better, the DOE-C will be included in standard sUP, which means out of the box you have a better ability to connect SUP to NWM and so to use the DOE.
By the way the same as I said for CRM is true for the new EAM Mobile solution from SAP and Mobile Sales as well. So all of these 3 apps use NWM, DOE-C and SUP. This is off course a big issue for some clients, cause the maintenance cost of the landscape increases due to the fact, that they need a new SUP-Server and can not switch off the NWM box.
On the other hand as said: if you are running a smaller scenario and have no need for CCMS integration, complex monitoring, enterprise device handling from the data side,...... then you will be absolutely happy in using SUP only. It will take some more time to integrate SUP really into the SAP world and extend it by some really needed features and enhance the monitoring abilities for the business for example.
Hope this does not confuse you too much.
Regards,
Oliver

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