Is Nokia 5800 good?

I'm thinking of buying NOkia 5800 but after i have seen these complaints in this websites, I dont think that phone is good?
can you provide my with some advice on that phone. thanks all for your advice about the phone
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I've had a 5800 for a few months now and (apart from the initial teething problems) have been fairly satisfied with it. Ok, the onscreen keyboard needs a bit of work as it can be unresponsiive at times (misses a lot of keypresses at high typing speeds), but hopefully that should be improved in the next firmware release (probably be rolling out around xmas i think).
there are a few advantages the 5800 has over the iphone...
1) Better battery life
2) Full multitasking (iphone is limited)
3) Removable SD Card
4) Better reception
5) cheaper
6) available on more networks
7) fairly frequent operating system updates (extra features and bugfixes)
Although a word of warning - avoid vodafone's branded 5800 handsets as a lot of the features have either been crippled or broken.

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Nokia 5800 Tips, Review, FAQs and How-to tutorials

Hi, guys. Here I worked out comprehensive Nokia tutorial with my lovely Nokia 5800. You will find all the most commonly asked questions for Nokia 5800.
Review of My Nokia 5800
I got one 5800 last month and then I was deeply fascinated by this smart phone. It is the first Nokia touch screen phone and you may use your finger or stylus to operate it. Also Nokia 5800 XpressMusic provides wonderful devices for users to enjoy music. Taking advantage of touch screen technology, the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic introduces the ‘Media Bar’, a handy drop down menu that provides direct access to music and entertainment, including favourite tracks, videos and photos. The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic offers all the music essentials, including a graphic equalizer, 8GB memory for up to 6000 tracks, a 3.5mm jack, support for main digital video formats 3GP，H.264/AVC，MPEG4, RM.and audio formats MP3, AAC, WMA, WMV. Built-in surround sound stereo speakers offer the industry’s most powerful sound. So it is really wonderful experience of enjoy music and movies with Nokia 5800 XpressMusic.
How to update the firmware of Nokia 5800 to v21
It is good news that firmware update for Nokia 5800 was released already. New firmware v.21 is available. If you also own a 5800, just follow the simple instruction to update your v20 or v10 to the newest v21.
Make sure that your battery is full (VERY IMPORTANT)
1. Go to Dial screen and press *#0000#
2. Press Options -> Check for updates
3. Connect to the Internet with any APN (WiFi is recommended, however EDGE is fast enough for this). 4. Wait until the download finished. Phone will launch the dialog asking for update, just press Now. 5. Press Accept and Accept and the phone will be switched to Updating mode.
6. It takes around 10 minutes to update, so be patient. After that, the phone will be rebooted automatically.
7. Check by *#0000# again. Congrats! Your 5800 is now v21!
As I can see, there are so many improvements and worth to update for example, better camera functionality and the phone operates faster than previous version.
Best Settings for Video Playback on Nokia 5800 Xpress Music
Nokia 5800 as the multimedia phones makes you able to enjoy watching the video and music with it. The question is, how’s to do to convert that videos and what are the best setting used for. I have convert many videos into my phone, I found that most video files can play with this phone such as mp4, 3gp, rmvb and flv files. But of them plays well but some are not. After many tries, I finally got the best results for Nokia video files. My video in 5800 was full screen, high quality and sounds very well. Here are my settings:
Video Resolution: 480*320
Video Bitrate: 768 kbps
Audio Bitrate: 128 kbps
Video Format: MPEG-4 (be sure not to use H264, as it’s not supported in the current firmware)
Audio Format: MP3
Audio Channels: 2 Channels
You can apply these settings above in whatever application you used when converting videos into 5800. Then I am sure you will get full screen, high quality and flawless video in your phone.
Settings for video playback on Nokia N97, N95, N85 and other Nokia phones.
Nokia N97: Video playback formats are 3GP formats, Flash Video, H.264/AVC, MPEG-4; the video resolution is 360*640. Audio formats are AAC, M4A, MP3, WAV, WMA etc.
Nokia N96: video playback formats are 3GP, Flash video, H.264/AVC, MPEG-4, RealVideo, WMV 9; the video resolution is 240*320. Audio formats are AAC, MP3, WAV, WMA etc.
Nokia N95: video playback formats are MP4, 3GP. Video resolution is up to 640*480, audio format is AAC stereo.
Nokia N85: video playback formats are 3GP formats, Flash video, H.264/AVC, MPEG-4, and WMV. The resolution is 240*320. The audio formats are AAC, M4A, MP3, WAV and WMA etc.
OK, I will not list all settings of Nokia phones. If you are interested you may get more relative information on Nokia official website.
How to transfer video files into Nokia 5800
I have download some videos from video website such as Youtube, Google video. But I can’t watch these videos in my phone. As these videos were flv files, Nokia 5800 can’t play such videos. I use Internet Tablet Video Converter to convert it, but it shows “Unsupported Video File Type”. Then I got to know some best video converter that seems professional for Nokia phone, I free download its trial version and tried it, and it works very well. Below are what I do:
Click Add button to add video files from your computer, set your videos according to the above settings and select Nokia 5800 Video MPEG-4 format for your video. Then just click convert button to start the conversion. After the conversion complete, you may watch these videos with Nokia 5800.
Also you may get music from video in this way. But pay attention to the format. As Nokia 5800 support mp3 audio format, you should select “MP3 – MPEG Layer-3 Audio (*.mp3)”.
How to convert DVD files into Nokia 5800
Obviously phones don’t have DVD drives, so to watch DVD on a phone you have to convert it into a video file on your PC then drag it into your phone. I also follow the above settings and convert DVD files into MPEG-4 video with Daniusoft DVD Ripper. the results are excellent.
After insert your DVD into the DVD Drive click the Open DVD button to upload DVD files on to this program. Click Settings button to set your videos according to the above settings I listed. Click Profile drop list to select “Nokia 5800 Video MPEG-4 (*.mp4)” format for your Nokia video. Then click Convert button to start the conversion. In few minutes the whole process will completed.
If you select audio format “MP3 – MPEG Layer-3 Audio (*.mp3)” you may also get music from DVD.
To transfer files into Nokia 5800
In the above tutorial I have explain you how to convert Nokia videos from DVD and other video files. Then you need to transfer these videos into your phone.
1. Make sure your computer and phone are both switched on. Also make sure your 5800 have a memory card in its slot.
2. Plug the small end of the microUSB cable into the phone’s USB socket, which s under a plastic flap in the top left corner.
3. Plug the larger end of the microUSB cable into a USB port on your computer.
4. On your 5800 it should ask which mode you wish to use. Choose “Mass Storage”.
5. Open the memory card window (probably called “Removable Disk E:”), drag your video files into the video folder.
6. After finished transfer files, do not disconnect the cable yet. You should make it safe to disconnect the cable. You may do this by click a small icon in the bottom right corner of the screen that appears when the phone is connected.
7. After you have made the device safe to remove, you can unplug the cable at both ends.
Some useful tips to make the Nokia 5800's battery last as long as possible
Sometimes you may have to stop talking with your friend or watching videos with your phone as low power of your battery. It is more inconvenient if you are in travel and have no alternative battery. Here are some tips to make your phone battery last as long as possible when using telephone.
Do not switch the phone off. As switching a phone on uses far more battery power than simply leaving the phone on.
Shut down unnecessary applications.
Turn down the 5800’s screen brightness to the lowest acceptable level.
Switch off your 5800’s screen when not in use.
Use headphones instead of speakers when listening to music or watching movies.
Avoid using the camera flash unnecessarily.
Use 2G instead of 3G.
Switch off Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi.'
Ok, I have typed out all my thoughts about Nokia 5800 here. Hope my tutorial is helpful to you. And all the other Nokia 5800 tutorials and useful how-to information should come here! It is welcome

Try backing up ur texts using phone's inbuilt file manager.it may work..

Nokia 5800 Questions.

I posted this in the nokia 5800 problems topic but it actually wasn't a problem and also it got ignored. So I decided to post it in a new topic.
I just bought this phone 4 days ago and I am in total love with it Now the pros of this phone are too much to list but there are a few cons which slight bugged me.I have version11.0.008 from the begining and have not faced a single problem - no lag , no peculiar behaviour Now I have a few queries that I was hoping to get answered on.
1. Is it possible to add more stuff below the Search word in the Shortcut bar theme. Maybe a Calendar memo reminder or anything. I already know of the music now playing bar that comes there during tracks but other than that are there nothing else to be done?
2. Is there any way to use the 2nd camera?
3. In the silent mode , for some odd reason I might have missed a call ( i.e did not feel the vibration ) Now is there a option to turn on so that the phone will emit little vibrations after a period of time to remind me or notify me of a miss call? I have this on my razrv3i so missing it now The menu button just flickrs on off to notify of the missed call but is there no way to know I have a miss call without taking out the phone from the case and looking at it?
4. I heard theres a new update to v11.0.009 - But my NSU doesn't show it . I was wondering is it that necessary to update to this firmwire at this moment? I live in Bangladesh.
Thats about it The 5800 is a exta ordinary phone and I have not regretted my purchase yet and have no hope of doing so. It costed me around 272.74 Euros. The price to quality ratio is mind bogling
Message Edited by ishmam156 on 09-Feb-2009 10:50 AM

1. The Calender memo will show by itself if you have any entry made in the Calender.. It will come up as "Next Entry on ..." a few days in advance and the Actual details a day before...
2. Open Camera application.. Goto Options -- > Use secondary camera..
3. There are 3rd party applications like T-Reminder for this.. It has options of Sound/Light/Vibration reminders for missed calls / SMSs / other events at user defined interval...
4. Firmware versions are different for different regions.. Connect the phone thru' OVI Suit to a computer and check for the latest available for your phone.It says that version upgrade is for good but there are newer complains associated with them. So its up to you whether to take that risk or not.. If you are satisfied with the current version so be it..
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Nokia 5800 behaves strange

When i purchased Nokia 5800, i found it really good and i thought, this is my best phone till date. But lately, it really made me bad with tons of bugs showing every other day. Here are the list.
1- Install many applications in your phone and your scrollbar in Application will behave really bad. It does not scroll properly. You can not see the applications in the last row in grid view. You will have to tocuh the screen carefully to make it upwards to see the application icons that are not showing with scrollbars. I will soon paste image here as my cell is in Nokia Care now.
2- Change the font size of your cell to small and then do a grid view. You will not be able to see the name of icons. small font size works fine only with list view.
3. Play a big .flv file and after running smothly for sometime. It starts behaving bad. sound breaks and you are not able to listen sound properly.
4. Open a .flv file and while it's opening. Tocuh it to make full screen and you will see d-pad that you see when you play flash games. Do we need it while watching .flv. I need to wait for it to open and then only i can touch to screen to make it full screen. That shows it's poor performance.
5. Press quick media bar shortcut in home screen and you will see your clock hides first than other elements on the screen. It's shows the UI repaint is so slow that you can see the difference in elements being hide.
6. I don remember, if i ever played with my cell too much, but yet within 4 months of it's usage. My LCD is gone. When someone call or when i on the screen. It shows paraller lines with background colors of home screen icons. It functions when you touch the screen, but you are not able to see anything on the screen. It happens so frequent and your money what you put on your cell goes in vain.
Problems
1. I had a theme and a wallpaper in my cell other than default theme when i was doing a mass storage. As soon as i plugged the USB and it selected mass storage. My cell automatically changed its theme and wallpaper to default one that comes when you purcahse cell. It become slow and the last dialled green button stopped working in home screen. It woks in other screens but not on home screen. It means i am not able to dial the last dialled number.
2. One of my image showing more than 40 times in Gallery with the same name. What i did is deleted the one and it's no more in file system, but it's still there as icon in Gallery and when i try to delete all those duplicate icons. It says can't delete. General error. I have more than 40 dead icons and i am not able to do anything.
3. Sometimes my clock on home screen just dont displayes. Click on the clock's place and come back to home screen and it will show you the clock. but again move to any other screen and come back to home screen and again clock is not there. Everytime, i need to see the clock, i have to touch the clock's place and then back to home screen to see the clock and that too, till the time , i am in home screen.
4. Play some videos and your cell will become too hot to touch it. Feels like it will burn out.
5. My very old Nokia 2650 has better sound. when someone calls me and i am not in a quiet place. I have to open speaker to listen the voice properly. I feel it's low compare to my oldest cell.
6. Recently listened the songs on Nokia E63 with same headphone i use and the sound quality is much much better than my 5800.
Features Missing
1. Flv player does not give seekbar functionality. If i have a big video file say for 10 minutes and i want to see portion of it. I am not able to see. Either from start or from the place where it stopped. Why no seekbar like other players when play mp4.
Other than these, I have a long list of small small problems i face, since my cell is in Nokia care, i am not able to write them here.
If anyone else has the same problems, then please share here.

sunilgupta20801 : "1. I had a theme and a wallpaper in my cell other than default theme when i was doing a mass storage. As soon as i plugged the USB and it selected mass storage. My cell automatically changed its theme and wallpaper to default one that comes when you purcahse cell. It become slow and the last dialled green button stopped working in home screen. It woks in other screens but not on home screen. It means i am not able to dial the last dialled number."
This most be because you have the theme installed on the card which is what the mass storage uses. Reinstall it to your main memory.
Message Edited by ruifcastro on 02-May-2009 02:22 PM
Message Edited by ruifcastro on 02-May-2009 02:22 PM

Nokia 5800 missing personal files on memory card

Good day everyone!
I have a problem with my new nokia 5800. A month ago, i lost some of my pictures, which are saved in my memory card. I just ignore it thinking that somebody from my frends just deleted it. After a week, all of the videos, which i took, were all missing.. I was so **bleep** of. A while ago, an application that i downloaded from the net was also lost.. Im so frustrated about this.. Please kindly help me on this one.
Your response is highly appreciated. (n_n)

this seems to be a problem of a common virus as the 5800 is generally doing well except for some performance hogs.
@chan chan, there is absolutely no use when you use a PC antivirus to kill a 5800 symbian's virus. there are s60 antivirus out there, but i recommend you do a hard-reset of your phone by holding
"green" + "red" + "camera key"(full press) all simultaenously while powering on the device.do not leave the power key also till u see "NOKIA" on the screen.before doing this, remove the memory card from the phone and format it on the PC.after the phone starts factory-fresh, insert the formatted card.it should work fine now.also update to the latest v31 firmware.
remember to backup your contacts and other phone-memory data as hard reset wipes-clean all data, but do not use the "backup phone" option as it uses memory card.better sync contacts with other phone or PC
It's not always about KUDOS, but to make people happy with their Nokia. get the most of your Nokia.And be happy with what u get ......yet, please dont forget to press KUDOS if my post helped to solve your problem kudos=Rep++

Want to know how the GPS works on nokia 5800?

Hi, are there any documentation explaining the working principle of how gps on nokia 5800 actually works? I want a kind of in-depth understanding...Thanx in advance.

Network based positioning is the fastest, but most inaccurate. Basically, it looks at what cell tower you're connected to, and approximates your location to be the location of that tower. The phone will use this FIRST (if you have enabled it), because it gives you an approximiate position while you wait for GPS to work.
Integrated GPS is the actual GPS receiver built into your phone. It receives signals from the network of GPS satellites and calculates your position. Due to the inherent design of the civilian GPS system, it takes time for the receiver to see enough satellites to figure out where you are. Because sometimes this time can be 5 minutes or more, the cell companies developed Assisted GPS.
Assisted GPS (AGPS) is just regular GPS, helped out by a server on the internet. Your phone will take partial GPS data (not enough to get a fix on its own), and send that data to a server (in our case supl.nokia.com). The server knows a LOT more about the exact locations of GPS satellites at any given time, so based on partial information it can compute a very good approximation of your location. This happens very quickly because a server has a much more powerful processor, and many more resources, than your phone (to put it simply). The amount of data actually sent is very very small (less than 1KB every time). AGPS helps out in getting a position fix quickly when the gps receiver hasn't been used for a while, or when you are in an area without great GPS reception.
So the order of methods used by the phone in your case is as follows. First it will give you an "approximate" position using Network Based Positioning. This will happen almost instantly. Then the phone will immediately get to work trying to get a GPS fix, and will use the AGPS server if you have allowed it to. Note that you must have an internet plan with your cell provider for AGPS to work, since it sends data to supl.nokia.com which is on the internet.
Hope that clarifies things,
Ravi

Nokia 5800 Xpress Call Waiting notification

Hello all
I have problem with my nokia 5800 xpress.
the problem about call wating.
when i call someone he call to another we usually see in all other models a notification "call waiting" to be know the person we are calling to is busy talking with another
nokia 5800 xpressmusic doesnt show this notification "call waiting"
this problem causes many problem for me.
that i think that the person that i callig dont want to answer me
but the truth he is talking to some one in his phone.
i have my nokia 5800 since firmware v50.x i think that nokia will solve this problem in the next firmware but didn't solved in v 51.x and waiting for new firmware and now updating my phone to the last firmware but not solved too.
pls any one have a solution reply me.
sorry for my english not good
i hope to understand me.
thanx alot

furthermore if the reciever doesn't want to recieve ur call, he may let ur call ring through and through, in which case u'll hear ringing and at the end u'l hear a voice sayin tht the person isn't pickin up ur fone plz try later.. OR there he may reject ur call, in that case u'l 1 or 2 rings and then a voice tellin the prsn u r tryin to reach is busy, etc..
Of course these vary accordin to network..
Well in any case it's a network issue not a handset issue..
Check with ur network.
What say farby?
Regards,
Dr. Shoubhik

IMEI NOKIA 5800

HELLO
MY NAME IS ZAHID HUSSAIN AND I M FROM PAKISTAN
MY PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE NOKIA 5800 DURING THE FIRMWARE UPDATE THROUGH THE AIR UNFORTUNATELY LIGHT WENT OFF AND MY HAND SET NOT START THEN I SEND IT TO MOBILE REPAIR SHOP AND SET IS OK NOW BUT PROBLEM IS THAT MY HAND SET `S IMEI IS GONE AND HAND SET IS RESART EVERY FIVE MINUTES. PLEASE TELL HOW GET IMEI ?
THANKS

First please don't call me sir.
Second, i believe they have done something really bad with your Phone, If you are sure that the IMEI number doesn't match with the one on retail box.
Now all you can do is a soft reset or hard reset. it may solve your problem, and return the phone to its original condition.
Soft Reset: Dial this number *#7370# enter your lock code, default is 12345.
(BACKUP YOUR DATA if you have any)
And remember next time after a failed firmware update, there are chances that you can recover your phone yourself, Here is a guide written by our friend psychomania: /t5/Pool-of-Knowledge/Recovering-from-a-failed-firmware-update/td-p/398147
Good Luck.
Previous Phones: 6600, 7610, 6230, 6230i, 1100, 1112, N70, N73, N95, N95 8GB, 5800XM, 5230, C5, iPhone 3GS, SE Xperia X10, N900, N8, SE Xperia Arc
Current Phones: Nokia N9, iPhone 4

Bbc i player on nokia 5800

hi can any one help i have a nokia 5800 installed the bbc i player worked fine for a week then stoped working,when you press click to play button nothing happens.just stays on the same screen.i have installed the latest firm were still wont work.

Hi, iPlayer will only work with Vodafone, 3 and wifi. If you're having a problem, uninstall it and re-install the latest version from the BBC. I believe installing one app over the other doesn't work, and a clean install may solve your problem.
Good Luck
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Proplem in nokia 5800 while trying to acces themes

hi guys
i have proplem in my nokia 5800
first sorry for my bad english
the proplem is
when i try to open themes changer the the mobile screen light on and off then restart
all dine but the proplem in the themes only
can any body help me plz
i tried to updat the phone software the program say your phone sotware the last verison
21.0.0.025
and ask if i want reinstall it
i reinstalled the software and the proplem still

You could try a hard reset by pressing "Green", "Red" and "Camera" button at once during power up of the phone, which will erase all the data, but it could solve your problem!
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Problem in s60 5th nokia 5800

i recently updated my old nokia 5800 to version 60.all was good but every time i play video on it lags a lot for 2min i request u to see the prob.
Regards
simrat

You can not roll back the Firmware. BTW I am not experiencing any such issue with my Nokia 5800xm after the update. Its a good practice to Soft Reset your phone after a Firmware update. ..but bear in mind that the Reset will erase all data from the phone memory. So back-up data first.. After the Reset Restore the data.. You may need to re-install some of the applications too.. It will require a good amount oof time and effort, but is definitely worth it..

Camera quality of my nokia 5800

i have nokia 5800
quality of cam is 3.2 megapixel
resolution 2048 * 1536
when i entered nokia website and compared it with nokia e66
i found that they have the same camera quality
but in fact 5800 camera quality is very very bad in compare to nokia e66 which appearde clear
i updated my software version to v52
i hated this camera
can nokia or anyone solve this problem for me
this is comparison between nokia 5800 and nokia e66 camera quality

I found the 5800XM camera to be quite good for such a small lens and sensor.
Here are a couple of example pictures I took with that camera.
All the best.
Ray
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My nokia 5800 keeps freezing/crashing when i try t...

my nokia 5800 keeps freezing/crashing when i try to view my pictures and videos? what do i do

Try clearing privacy data in browser to get a bit of ram back. if no good , do hard reset, you'll need to re-set up phone so back up first. Then type *#7370# and use passkey 12345 and phone will re-start and be like'out of the box' your memory card will not be affected.
Good Luck
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Wishlist for Nokia 5800 V21+

So you've seen that 5800 has it's new update V21.0.025 up and running and we can see some changes/Updates but not major ones..
What major updates would you love to see in you Nokia 5800's other upcoming Versions ? (minor ones aswell)
Nokia 3230, Nokia 6255i, Nokia 6500s, Nokia N72, Nokia N95 8GB, Nokia 5800 XM, Apple Iphone 3G

the thing that i wanted the most is the standby screen rotation.. i know it's not very difficult to insert this issue in the firmware, as did nokia have made the more difficult improvements before. so i believe this is very simple for them, but they juz dun wanna make the standby screen to autorotate.
1) auto-rotation for standby screen.
2) add another "stop" button in music player, so it would look like "backward" "stop" "play&pause" "forward"
3) camera colors and sharpness improvements, especially in Landscape & Sports mode, the sharpness is not that good in Landscape, and noises when using Sports scene. colors are dull and always have to adjust the color tones to "vivid"in order to have better color pictures.
4) hope the "turn to silent" function can add another "turn to hang calls"...
5) better touch sensitivity
6) better bass reproduction on music player
7) better if can have smaller shortcut icons, so that we can put more shortcuts on the standby screen
8) a better auto-rotation theme effects
9) can create own new folders in menu
10) improve in the speed of the hp when using 8GB memory card

Reasons to hold onto my Nokia 5800???

The battery ran out on my Nokia 5800 the other day and I had my old Nokia E51 spare and it was nearly charged up so I popped in my sim card and away I went, this only started me thinking why did I give up on my E51 for a Nokia 5800. My E51 has a screen I can see when the backlight times out, the battery standby life is tons better than the 5800 (touchscreen phones drains batteries I hear) I can get a good version of Internet radio on my S60 V3 E51 (something that they never developed to work on S60V5) I can have a screensaver on my E51 (the Nokia 5800 screen goes blank) the missed calls notification light on the E51 is more noticeable, The camera on the E51 (even though the E51 hasn't got a LED flash) is tons better than the camera on the 5800 (which is very grainy pictures in low light) the E51 is lovely to hold (and don't feel like I am holding the brick like 5800) the E51 fits comfortably into my pocket as its slim, The home screen has the calendar entries and six shortcuts without me having to purchase an app (as in shell for 5800), I can turn on and off Bluetooth simply by just long press on the star key.
So really all I am missing is the qwerty (I like that on the 5800), the Stereo Speakers/sound of the 5800 the contact bar of the 5800, er I think that's just about it unless anyone else can think of any other reasons why I should hold onto and use my Nokia 5800?
I know what I really want but there is no way I could get it I suppose, what I want is a Nokia exactly same size as the E51 with a pull out qwerty keyboard, flash, Same quality camera as the E51, even a E52 which I have held doesn't feel as nice to hold in the hand as the E51, and the E52 is missing that lovely chrome surround and smooth battery plate that the E51 has. - I dunno you would think with modern technology that a person who has had/used a Nokia 5800 would never want to go back to using an older E51 model but with me I feel reluctant going back to using the 5800 now and much prefer using the E51 now!

After using 5800 for a month,i once took out my old 1100 and it felt loads better!! Now i only use 1100 for texting and calls but 5800 is still with me for browsing purposes.I now understand the saying Old is Gold!!

Is Nokia 5800 good?

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