Is Refine Edge better in CS6 than CS5.5 than CS5

Is refine edge better in CS6 than CS5.5 than CS5 - have there been continual improvements
Thx

The CS5.5 code is no different than CS5. I can't say from personal experience whether the newest code is better; I've been able to get good results from both.
-Noel

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My Refine Edge in Photoshop CS6 has STOPPED WORKING, please help!

Photoshop CS6
Windows 8.1
I have been using refine edge with no problem for months.
everything worked great!
I was able to extract out hair and edges very, very, very well...
but about 2 weeks ago...something changed... the refine edge brush no longer works.
When I click on Refine Edge... instead of a brush icon, I get the CIRCLE with a SLASH and my system keeps dinging because the tool is just not available.
I deleted my preferences...but it is still a problem
NOW... when I adjust the sliders, i don't see a preview of the adjustments...
Please help!!!!

no difference.
i have tried to check and uncheck everything...
if i adjust the sliders, i get NO Preview... but when i click OK, the resulting photo has been completely ruined by the tool...
I tried deleting preferences...no change
the weird thing is that this problem was very sudden. Just a few weeks ago, I was using refine edge with NO PROBLEM. it is my GO TO tool for extracting people out of pictures...
but then one day, it just stopped working...
Do i need to reinstall CS6???

Refine edge in masks CS6

every time i try to refine the edge of a mask, it begins to erase my picture instead of adding in the hair etc. i tried this on several computers at school and it did the same thing, so it isnt my computer/software. my teacher has sat down with me several times and said im not doing anything wrong. this has NEVER worked for me and im extremely frustrated. PLEASE help

no difference.
i have tried to check and uncheck everything...
if i adjust the sliders, i get NO Preview... but when i click OK, the resulting photo has been completely ruined by the tool...
I tried deleting preferences...no change
the weird thing is that this problem was very sudden. Just a few weeks ago, I was using refine edge with NO PROBLEM. it is my GO TO tool for extracting people out of pictures...
but then one day, it just stopped working...
Do i need to reinstall CS6???

Refine Edge in Photoshop CS6 superior to Fluid Mask 3?

I have been using Fluid Mask 3 since Photoshop CS3.
But, recently, looking at a tutorial at a retouch DVD I bought, it seems that the CS6 version of Refine Edge is superior to Fluid Mask.
It seems to have a far more advanced algorithm, and the fact you can work in layer mode with actually seeing what you are masking off in real view, it seems to me it's time to ditch Fluid Mask 3.
What's your take on this?

no difference.
i have tried to check and uncheck everything...
if i adjust the sliders, i get NO Preview... but when i click OK, the resulting photo has been completely ruined by the tool...
I tried deleting preferences...no change
the weird thing is that this problem was very sudden. Just a few weeks ago, I was using refine edge with NO PROBLEM. it is my GO TO tool for extracting people out of pictures...
but then one day, it just stopped working...
Do i need to reinstall CS6???

ACR processing in CS6 much slower than CS5

A big advantage of hosting ACR in 64 bit CS5 vs in bridge was that then ACR would process multiple images at once when saving them to jpg which would reduce processing times by 30% or more. For some reason this doesn't seem to be the case with CS6. I just did a short test and CS6 won't process multiple images at once, and was 33% slower than CS5 at saving a batch of 5dmkii images to jpeg.
Has anyone else noticed this? Hopefully this limitation is due to beta status and the final release of ACR will be fully optimized for 64bit processing.

It seems strange that their is hardly any improvement in 64 bit cs6 speed vs 32 bit cs5.    I agree, gpu support for acr would great!
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:25:25 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: ACR processing in CS6 much slower than CS5
    Re: ACR processing in CS6 much slower than CS5
    created by Noel Carboni in Photoshop CS6 - View the full discussion
Bridge in CS5 was 32 bit only, and I observed the 32 bit converter as run by Bridge (or Photoshop 32 bit) wouldn't exercise all the cores, so the way I interpret your numbers is as follows:
1. ACR7 is 50% slower than its predecessor (34.25 seconds when run in Photoshop 64 bit vs. 22.59).
2. Bridge is now 64 bit, so you're running the same code in both cases, which is why you're seeing essentially the same number in Bridge as Photoshop.
-Noel
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Is Refine Edge in CS5 a bust?

Notwithstanding the unprecedented hype from all the PS Gurus about the revised refine edge/refine mask tool in CS5, I have found the "Smart Radius" function of this tool to be a time waster not a time saver. It never seems to work as advertised. Instead of taking my selections and improving them, it usually has the opposite effect. Not once have I ever been able to achieve the finely detailed extraction masks, particularly of hair, that this tool is supposed to help one produce, and using the adjustment tool usually seems to make things worse, creating a smeary mask in areas that I don't wanted masked, and ignoring areas that I do. After my edge is ruined I find myself using the remove tool to try to salvage my ruined edge, and often end up cancelling out all together. How is this an improvement?
I have read a number of different sources and watched several videos on how to use this tool, so I don't think I am doing anything particularly wrong. But then again, I seem to be the only one complaining in this forum. Before I give up on this altogether, I have to know, is this just a tool for studio photographers using green screens? Is anyone having luck using this tool for photographic applications other than studio or staged photography?

"The mask adjusted by Smart Radius? Are you sure that you fully understand what Smart Radius does?"
I think I do . . . but your explanation is certainly clarifying. I guess I might have been more accurate by asking "the resulting mask after using the smart radius to refine your selection."
"It's not supposed to be a new superselection method that provides professional results, it's for when you want to do something quick and dirty or if you want to get a decent start which you can then further refine."
In some sense this gets to the nub of my question. As this tool has been demonstrated, the radius slider, combined with the use of the refine radius tool, can do a pretty nice job (albeit perhaps something less than fully professional) of capturing the detail of the hair, given the right conditions without necessarily having to select individual curls or strands. I am not experiencing anything close to that and I am trying to figure out why. I'm am not able to pull out hair detail with this tool. The "edges" in the hair are a blurry mess -- no use at all as a starting point or otherwise. And, as for edges in general, what I am finding is that using this tool too often appears to override a perfectly good selected area, requiring generous use of the erase refinement tool. I'm not getting "quick and dirty" results, just bad results.
OK ... so stay with me Zeno. I would like to know how much selection work you had to do in the hair before invoking the refine edge dialogue. Where did you draw your selection. Did you just draw a boundary and invoke the radius tool to capture hair details, or something else? Also, where I find areas in my selection that are not perfect but not too far off, e.g., capturing a wee bit of green turf against a leg, shouldn't I be able to expect that the radius function will be able to "refine" that spot?

Problems with refine edge in CS5-no longer working properly?!

Hi all, just wondered if anyone has experienced this bizarre problem and if so how they went about fixing it or changin the settings! (i may have done something to photoshop for it not to work properly!!!)
Basically, i have got CS5 and was very excited to find the refine edge tool.... made cutting out people real easy and loved it.... however, for some reason the refine edge is not working anymore. Everytime i try to refine the edge using the refine edge tool it isnt selecting any fine details of the cut. It seems to be erasing the image with a low opacity making the selection very blurred?!
Hopefully you can see from the very quickly put together example that the refine edge tool is taking pixels out if her nose, chin, jumper neck and jumper! Any one know how to prevent this from happening?
Thanks! Matt

I am having the same problem with the refine edge tool. It seems to work the exact opposite of what I was expecting.
The above two images are before and after using the tool to refine the edge. As you can see from the picture without the mask view, the selection actually got smaller after I tried to add to it. When I use the other tool to erase an edge, as soon as I release the mouse button, the portion I tried to remove reappears as it was before. This has never worked properly for me. Also, I have tried outputting in several different ways.
As for the questions posed: The app and OS are up to date. I am the only user on my computer, so I'm not sure what using another user would accomplish. I will mention that I'm using Windows 7, not Mac. I'm really hoping there is a setting I have wrong somewhere.

PS CC 2014 how to get better results from refine edge

In the attached image below you will see "Jesus on the cross" which I want to substitute a new background. On the left is a portion of the unselected image and on the right is the best result I can get via refine edge tool. I have tried all the usual methods such as channels, increasing contrats etc but this is the best I can get. The top thorns had the same problem but what you see now is an hour of manual selection. How do I get a better result - why is it that when the rfine edge brush is swept over such it often only produces transparent results?

I am keep working on this problem today.
I tried Particle Analysis, the result is un-repeatable either. But when I decide to find Straight edge direct from source image,without any process,the angle is more repeatable,Max deviation is 0.03-0.06 degree.It seems my process to the image make thing worse.Then I found the algorithm to find straight is something like linear fit : find all the edge points,linear fit and calculate the angle.
So I run my program for images those pixel resolution is 1280*960,the Max deviation is much lower: 0.008 degree.
If I am right,the best resolution to my problem is to change my camera to higher resolution.
Any advises is appreciate! Thank you!

Refine Edge Tool Not Highlighted to Open - CS6

Hi Everyone,
I have been using CS6 on a mac OSX retina without any issues until today, the "Refine Edge Tool Box" isn't highlighted anymore to open? is there some simple answer to this to reactivate it to open as it should? any helpful info would be appreciated - Thanks

OK, I rebooted the mac and whatever caused the glitch seems to have disappeared

Refine edge tool (CS5) producing bad quality selections?

I am having troubles where whenever I use the refine edge tool, the selection it produces is horrible quality. What's weird is on my old computer, running the same software and using the same images, I could get much better results. I was runnign Vista on a laptop and now I'm running Windows 7 on a desktop, so It's confusing that I am getting bad quality selections with a much better computer adn the saem images in the same program Suite.
anyone know what's up?

Looking at the screenshot I assume you mean the artifiacts/blockiness? Have you checked disabling OpenGL to see if that's the culprit? From the help file:
1. Turn off OpenGL.
Choose Edit > Preferences (Windows) or Photoshop > Preferences (Mac OS).
In the Performance panel, deselect Enable OpenGL Drawing. Click OK.
Restart Photoshop, and perform the same function.

CS5 Refine Edge Tool

I'm experiencing a problem with the refine edge tool in CS5. For no obvious reason I am now getting an error message stating "Could not complete the Refine Edge command because of a programme error". this appears after I have adjusted the refine edge settings and clicked ok. The process was working fine until a copule of days ago. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this problem and can offer a solution. I've already downloaded the most recent updates. My OS is Windows XP.
BriRonS

Try resetting the photoshop preferences and see if that helps:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/375776?tstart=0
MTSTUNER

Refine edge not working in cs6 64 bit

This might be user error, but I'm having difficulty with the Refine Edge tool. When I use Quick Selection to highlight a subject, and click on Refine Edge, I am unable to add or remove part of the selected region from the mask. I can erase, or draw over, and it shows, until I depress the mouse, and it goes back to the original selection. I reset my preferences and still not working. It has worked in the past. Just stopped working.
Thanks for your help!

Anyone can help me ? Thanks

Extract Filter v Refine Edge CS5

I hear a lot of people talking blithely about how superior Refine Edge is to the previous Extract Filter.
If you look at the two sample files called "Auto Align 1" and "Auto Align 2" in the tutorials folder a couple of versions back you'll find 2 children with sharp outlines against the background and frothy hair around the girl. Can someone please explain to me how refine edge can - in 1 fell swoop - eliminate the clearly defined background around the shoulders AND leave the frothiness of the girls' hair? Until then I stand resolute that REFINE EDGE is NOT a substitute for the EXTRACT FILTER at all!

Based on my experience, I suggest the following, when using Refine Edge:
1. Foremost: Work on as high resolution an image as you can.
2. As I mentioned, listen carefully to what Russell Brown says in his video. Less is more when it comes to selection, then add areas of transition.
3. Take the time, as you might with the old extract filter, to brush carefully over the areas of transition to make sure you get all the strands.
4. Check your results against the white and black backgrounds using W and B shortcut keys to make sure you've got all the areas of transition you need.
5. Don't be afraid to use the Decontaminate Colors feature - possibly even cranked all the way up.
6. Understand that if you're masking someone Photographed in a light studio, that hair highlights and other visual cues might not look right against a dark background, and you may need to use the Burn tool or other techniques to help hide that. The eye/brain are great at picking up inconsistencies in the lighting, and that has little to do with masking.
As with anything, it takes some getting used to and practice, but the results can be quite good.
-Noel

Refine Edge CS5 question

Hi,
I'm wondering if there is any way that I can get a work path and/or clipping path after using the refine edge tool.
I've tried to find a way to save the changes / result after using it so that I can save the image with a transparent background, but no luck.
//S

As long as you don't use the decontaminate colors option in the
refine edge dialog, you could output to a selection and make a work path
from the selection or output to a layer mask or new layer with layer mask
and load the layer mask selection and make a workpath from that.
You can save images with transparency in several formats including psd,
tif, pdf and png.
When using the decontaminate colors option, photoshop thinks you want to blend the
selection with a background so the resulting output is not good for just transparent images
without a background.
MTSTUNER

When using the refine edge tool, my image is opposite....rather than the background being transparent...the "subject" is gone...do I have a something set incorrectly?

I used the quick selection tool to outline, then refine edge....
my image does not shoe up in the refine edge window....it is a "mask"..
then when I output to "new layer with layer mask"....my "subject" t is gone...back ground remains...

Thanks for your prompt reply!
this is how the "finished" product looks...this is the image after I select "output to mask"..
It seems "reversed"?

Is Refine Edge better in CS6 than CS5.5 than CS5

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