Is that it, Is that all we get for our Money ? Pffft LAM

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I dont blame the mods here as they only tell us what they know, however, they dont know anything either !? Its perfectly apparent that CL has no intention of giving us a working release. Since we were supposed to get WHQL drivers and working software with this release, instead we get the same beta driver, unsigned and still not working correctly. If i hadnt gotten my X-FI the minute it came out i would IMMEDIATELY return this worthless piece of plastic and metal via, airmail (Throwing it through a CL window).
As a loyal CL customer since the Old ISA cards, i am extremely unhappy with the way this company is handling this situation, if you cant get the software to work, just inform the people who have your cards and let them make an informed decision, STOP LYING TO THE PUBLIC! You people at CL are as bad as the people at Enron. If your driver development team cant do the job, then GIVE UP, stop giving your customer false hope, only to piss on their heads again. This is a joke, i mean i have had to go through the issue with CL and their driver releases for over 0 years and by far this has got to be the worse i have ever seen. Yea yea MS changed the OS, Blah Blah, you people have had month/years to get this crap running, and if i know CL you waited until the last minute even to start. Yea i know WHQL doesnt mean anything that wasnt my point. My point was the Flat out LIES being told here by CL. You say this is a place for customers to help other customers...HA YEA RIGHT !, when other forum contributors provide information you either debunk it or moderate the post or completely delete it altogether, WHAT a joke.... I am not only a customer but i run a business selling, building pc's, i have told my customers that CL is the best sound and have pretty much pushed CL products in any pc i build....Guess what....NEVER AGAIN. I will absolutely make sure that NO customer of mine ever uses another CL product, if they have one i will make sure they replace it with something that actually works. I will also place a poster in the window of my business stating that creative labs are LIARS,THIEVES, they say their cards work with Vista, and its total BS.
?I am also going to make the absolute best effort i can to get some newspaper, Television station to know this information and try to the best that i can to show the people who buy your products that you dont care about your customers, that you lie about drivers, and that overall you should never sell another product. What till i show them this forum, they will have no problem putting this information in the paper, or on the TV.
Former long time CL lover,Now CL Hater !

Answer 1

Sigh.
Has there ever been an announcement by Creative that development has ended for the previously announced products they will offer Vista support for?
If not, then the postings in this thread are assuming the whole thing.
Once again I remind folks that full software and driver suites that are completely new take a whole lot of time to get done. And again I'm reminded of the XP experience with nearly all soundcards at first. Pretty much it was the same story then as it is now, and Creative generously allowed public postings lambasting them on how horrible they were and that no one would ever give them a penny in business ever again.
Things worked out pretty well for Creative as far as their XP support and also the continued growth of their customer base. All the experts and most consumers flocked to Creative hardware and mostly appreciated the full software suites included that in most cases worked flawlessly and provided many tools for the user included in the price of the hardware purchase.
I suspect the same sort of thing will happen again with the new Windows Vista operating system.
What we have now is still in most cases more than owners of competitors 9x/XP period soundcards have. Most of them still have not even a beta driver of any kind, or offer much in the way of commitment other than a statement of working on things and maybe or maybe not a possibility that the hardware will get Vista driver support.
Regular releases from Creative, a user forum, and clear published documentation of what challenges they have in supporting Vista is NOT a lack of support. Rather, this is awesome support and customer communication.
Yes, I want more from my expensi've card too. But instead of ragging on the company I choose to be optimistic. They have a proven track record of supporting the latest Microsoft releases and they have offered public commitments that they are continuing to work on that same type of support for specific models of their hardware.
I'm positi've that all the crying, threats, nagging, etc, although helpful to us frustrated users to let off some steam, is not really appropriate. Good stuff has always gotten to us in the past and I am optimistic that a real nice driver/software package will be on the horizon at some point within a year or so for Vista.
Yes, it took that long for XP and so it may just take that long for Vista.