Is the ATI Radeon X1900 xtMac G5 only for dual cores?

I have an old G5 single and I was wondering if this card could be used with it.

Yes, that card (more accurately the X1900GT - the XT was for the Mac Pro only) is a PCI Express card, and only the dual core (Late 2005) G5s have those slots.

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    I'm wondering the same thing. I have an X1950 pro and am trying to get it to help out with youtube videos.
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  • Is there a good alternative to the ATI Radeon X1900 XT

    I have had no end of problems with this card and spend more time trying to fix it than working. I have ordered the ATI 3870 and still waiting for it to be shipped, however these seem to be giving people a different set of problems.
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  • Any updates on the ATI Radeon HD 5870 upgrade kit for Mac Pro 2009/2010?

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    Ugh.
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  • ATI Radeon X1900 worth it for only FCP and Color?

    Hello,
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  • NVIDIA GeForce 120 or ATI Radeon X1900... which is better?

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    If I replaced the ATI Radeon X1900 with a NVIDIA GeForce 120, would I be asking for trouble?
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  • After Effects 7 with ATI Radeon X1900 XT

    Hi everyone,
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    I have this configuration, but sadly have had no time to play around with After Effects. AE's realtime playback capabilities are limited (especially when compared with something like Motion), so you're probably still going to be rendering to RAM a lot. I believe the OpenGL support is for things like anti-aliasing, blur, and blending modes -- so a faster video card may not automatically equal huge performance boost across the board. Four Xeon cores and a lot of RAM will help it a lot more (see exception below).
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  • Alternatives to ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512 MB

    Hi Guys,
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    You could use a Mini-DisplayPort to DVI adaptor on one of the ports, I would think. Otherwise, you don't have two many choices. You might look for a used ATI 4870, Mac Edition model. It's performance will be similar to the 5770 since the 2006 MP only has PCI-e 1.0 slots so the 5770 can't take advantage of it's capabilities if installed in a PCI-e 2.0 slot.
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  • ATI Radeon X1900 XT upgrade issue

    Hey guys, hopefully someone here can help me with my problem.
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    Yup, I had them connected. Just to be safe I tried plugging the cable into the other auxiliary power connector so as to see if the problem was with one of them. Unfortunately I got the same problem.
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