Is the basic phone upgrade loophole still usable?

I have a 3 line account, 2 smartphones with unlimited and one basic.  All three are out of contract.  I would like new smartphones but obviously want to keep unlimited.  Is it still possible to use the basic phone line to process the upgrades, then drop that line back to a basic phone and activate the smartphone on the unlimited line? This process would involve doing this twice and a transfer of one upgrade since I want 2 new smartphones.  Has anyone had success lately?

Verizon closes loophole that allowed upgrades with unlimited data
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-closes-loophole-allowed-upgrades-unlimited-data

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    chasejr wrote:
    I want to change my plan over from the 700 min plan to the Family share plan with unlimited talk and text...the only problem is that we have 4 basic phones.  I can pay the $30 per phone per month no problem...but then I'm forced to select the base 300mb of data plan (for $40/month) as well.  What is this paying for?  I'd be throwing away $40 a month for data that I can't use since we have basic phones.  There should be another option.  Has anyone else encountered this, and had it resolved?
    Actually basic phones CAN use data. Also you're not paying $40 for the data. You paying $40 for unlimited minutes and texting AND data. And since the unlimited minutes and texting have a $40 value the 300 MB is basically FREE.
    If you need more minutes then you can get the 1400 minute plan for $20 more than what you're paying for now as was said. or 2000 minutes for $40 more.
    So let's break this down
    1400 minutes,  4 lines, unlimited texting = $140
    2000 minutes, 4 lines unlimited texting =$160
    Share Everything 4 lines, unlimited minutes and texting 300 MB data=$160.
    If you're going to need more than 1400 minutes Share Everything is better.

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  • What is up with the basic phone plane for $20.00 per month....what is the discount for?

    Looking to find out about this plan...anyone know?

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    If you already have the MORE EVERYTHING PLAN you will have an option to receive a $10.00 discount for your basic phone plan!
    Double check the features that you currently have on your plan and print the confirmation page that you will receive the discount before you leave the page.
    If you return again to the  Change Features option that will no longer appear.
    You can review your current options and you will see the More Everything discount listed!

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    When can I expect the phone to be opperatible for incoming calls with my ported phone number?

    Sorry this isn't a live chat room.  This is a user to user technical forum.  Not all questions will be replied to promptly.
    the issue your having is a carrier issue, you will need to call T-mobile to resolve your issue.

  • I currently have a basic phone but I would like to switch to a smart phone. I don't have an upgrade right now and none of the other phones on the plan have an upgrade either (4 phones in total, 2 smart phones and 2 basic). Is it possible to get a phone fr

    I currently have a basic phone but I would like to switch to a smart phone. I don't have an upgrade right now and none of the other phones on the plan have an upgrade either (4 phones in total, 2 smart phones and 2 basic). Is it possible to get a phone from a 3rd party, instead of buying a phone from Verizon at full price, to switch with the basic phone?

    i have a basic prepaid phone and was given a samsung android verizon gave me several options from going to a contract or doing prepaid or month to month even got a free sim card

  • Upgrading from a basic phone to a smart phone after 6 months?

    Alright, right now on our plan we have two smartphones and one basic phone. We've had the basic phone for about 6 months, and wish to upgrade it to a smartphone. We also would like to switch to Verizon's "Share Everything" plan. Is there a way to do this without paying ridiculous fees to get out of the basic phone's two year contract?
    Cheers,
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    To expand on what tikibar1 has said, paying the ETF on the basic phone and starting a new line of service would only be helpful if you didn't mind getting a new phone # for the person currently on the basic phone.
    However, if this is not a problem, the ETF on a basic phone is MUCH less than the price you would need to pay in order to receive a full retail iPhone.
    The ETF on a basic phone is $175 less $5 for each month of your contract you have completed. Since you have had the basic phone for 6 months, your ETF would be $145. A full retail 16 GB iPhone 5(for example purposes only), on the other hand is $649. The discounted price for that same iPhone 5 is $199. So even if you were to pay the ETF and the discounted price on the iPhone 5($145 + $199 = $344) you would still be getting a ~$300 discount on the iPhone 5 from the full retail cost.
    Additionally, the chances of being able to find a used iPhone 5(in good condition) for less than that price would be pretty slim.
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  • When transferring my upgrade Vz added Data Bundle to my basic phone

    I have Nationwide Family plan with 4 dumb phones and one iPhone where my son pays his $30 per month data.  I transferred my upgrade (LG Octane) so he could buy the new iPhone which all went well except that my bill now shows "2GB Data Bundle with Email" added to my phone for $30.  Makes no sense that I would need that plan with my basic phone.  What's up?

    Even though your transferred the upgrade the upgrade counts against your line. Your line gets the contract extension. Technically your line upgraded to a smartphone and Verizon has new policy where you must keep data on a line for 2 years even if you switch that line back to a basic phone. They did this because unlimited data customers who weren't entitled to upgrades were using a loophole and upgrading basic lines to smartphones then swapping phones and cancelling the data and putting the basic phone back on that line in order to get an upgrade they weren't entitled to. Unfortunately people like you get caught in the middle because unlimited data customers were abusing the system. It stinks but you're stuck paying that $30 for the next 2 years.

  • Can only upgrade basic phone to basic phone?

    I have three lines on a share everything plan.  Two smart phones and one basic phone.   The only line eligible for upgrade is the basic phone line.  So, I went to a local VZW store today not only to pay my bill but to see about upgrading the line with the basic phone.  The rep at the store told me that I could only upgrade a basic phone for a basic phone.  He said that only smart phones can be upgraded to smart phones.  This is just ridiculous.  I chose not to upgrade my phone.  In fact, I now plan to switch to AT&T. 

    You were told wrong.  The only difference will be a $40 line fee instead of the $30 line fee, and you may consider increasing the data pool if you are adding another smartphone to the mix.  But there is no reason at all why you would HAVE to put a basic phone on that line.  The rep was wrong.

  • Upgrade basic phones

    Hi all~
    We have an old Nationwide plan, 1400 minutes of talk, 3 basic phones 1 smart phone with 2GB of data. I would like to upgrade two of the basic phones but we don't qualify for upgrades until 10/2015.
    I don't like the Edge program, we aren't interested in having the latest/greatest and would prefer to purchase a phone upfront at the discounted price. Can we do this since we are upgrading our phone plan?
    Thanks

    It is really random how they do things. I was EE eligible but I was NOT eligible for the Early Upgrade which would have allowed me to do a 2 year upgrade from the iPhone 5 to the iPhone 6. That was ok with me as I wanted the LG G3 so I traded in my P.I.T.A. iPhone 5 that gave me some problems and got my G3.
    I really think that the OP must contact VZW directly for the specifics of their account as we as other customers cannot advise them fully. We can only speculate about any promotions that may be available to them. I honestly believe these questions should not be asked on a user forum such as this as it could prevent the asker from contacting VZW directly and they could miss any promotions available.

  • Upgraded to 10 GB for our 3 smart phones.  2 basic phones now $20 higher?

    We have 3 smart phones and 2 basic phones on our plan.  When we upgraded to 10 GB for the smart phones, the  basic rates went up $20 per phone.  Why?  Basic phones do not use data.

    Looks like you'd get the $10 off of the basic phone whether on Edge or not.  You say basic went up by $20 each?  So you were paying $10 per basic line?  Whenever you make a plan change that affects all lines like a package deal, you may give up aspects of your old plan.  Basic phones do use data, or at least the CAN.  Even a single basic phone by itself on More Everything is $20 for the line and $20 for 500 MB of data or $5 for 700 min and pay as you go data.

  • HT4623 I can no longer send photos from my Iphone 4G. Also not receiving any photos sent by family members. I did the reset of the entire phone & restored from Icloud backup still having same issue.

    I can no longer send pictures from my I phone 4Gs, It's been updated & I reset the entire phone & restored. Still having same issues. Also not receiving pictures anymore either.

    Ah yes school boy error there out of frustration and discontent..
    My issue is with music/apps/films etc not downloading from iTunes / App Store.
    They initially fail and message is displayed stating unable to download / purchase at this time, yet if I retry it says I've already purchased (?) or alternatively I go to the purchased section and there they are waiting with the cloud symbol..
    However some items get frozen in the download window and cannot be retried or deleted. Message appears stating to tap to retry, but even if you stole every bath and sink in the uk you'd still not have enough taps.
    I post here as the iTunes guys are useless in there 'help' and have only advised posting here or phoning apple, at my expense, to explain a problem that could be rectified by forwarding my original email to a techie. However the tech team apparently don't have an email address as they're from ye olde Middle Ages..!
    Anyways I digress.
    So I tried sync to pc, but instead of showing the file as ready to listen/use/view, the iCloud symbol shows and I'm back to square one as the item is unable to download..
    At frustration station waiting for a train from pain...
    All my software is up to date, and had all worked fine prior to the last big iOS update that resulted in all the changes in display and dismay.
    Answers in a postcard :-)
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  • Is the old iphone 4s a basic phone now?

    The rep who signed us up said it was considered a basic phone eligible for the basic plan, and now our bill shows a smartphone plan, not the basic phone plan. Another rep has told us it's a smart phone. So does anyone know if it is or is not a basic phone already!

    The iPhone is a smartphone and requires a data plan.

  • Basic phones for texting

    Are there still going to be decent texting phones coming out? Looks like the basic phone selection is getting scarce. I will eventually upgrade to a smartphone but am not ready just yet. Thanks!

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  • FORCED DATA PACKAGE WITH PHONE UPGRADE

    I have been a verizon customer since cell phones were cool.  I started with a bag phone in my car.   I have 5 verizon phones.   Four on a family plan and one through a work plan.  
    My son wanted to upgrade his phone today which is eligible for early upgrade.  I was very disappointed to find out that any decent phones available come with a mandated data package.   There are two options - for the really nice phones it is $29.99/month, for the basic phones like the LG Envy which I have now it is $9.99/month.   
    So right now I spend on the family plan about $2000 per year on cell phones.  (It used to be about $3,500 before I got my work phone).   If we renewed to the basic LG Envy phones (which I like)  it would be an extra $40/month or $480 per year.  If we upgraded to the nice phones it would be an extra $120/month or $1,440 per year.  For unlimited data usage this is not a bad deal.  
    There is only one problem - I DONT WANT IT OR NEED IT!!!!!!!!   I have computers at home with wireless, a laptop with wireless, an i-touch with wireless.   Also, my spouse or children do not need unlimited data or the internet on their phones!   Who wants to pay for a 16 and 13 year old to have unlimited data and wireless? 
    I  spoke to Verizon customer service and they told me which phones are available with no data package.  Nothing against LG and Samsung but the phones available under those plans are garbage.   They have small screens and are pathetic little phones with limited features.  Even though I don't use the internet on my phone why wouldn't I want one  with a great camera, a large screen for pictures and video messaging?   
    I realize from talking to customer service that they did surveys to see what customers wanted.  I guess I am one of the only people out there that likes advanced features on a phone with out the internet available to me at all times.  I don't agree with this.  Or is it just that it is more convenient to squeeze another $500 or $1500 per year from a family?   Why not double your sales when you can.  I know every other carrier is doing it which is why Verizon can force this on its customers.   Customer service reminded me of this several times. 
    Could we afford donating this money to Verizon for no purpose? Probably but why the {word filter avoidance}
    would we?  No wonder so many people are in debt.  I think our money could be used better to send kids to college, pay the mortgage or invest it.   I think this policy is hostile towards customers.  If they really want to serve their customers offer the phones at higher price without a data package.  I guess that wouldn't work since Verizon makes its money from service agreements not the equipment.  
    - Unhappy Verizon Customer looking for other options......

    Ryder435 wrote:
    I have been a verizon customer since cell phones were cool.  I started with a bag phone in my car.   I have 5 verizon phones.   Four on a family plan and one through a work plan.  
    My son wanted to upgrade his phone today which is eligible for early upgrade.  I was very disappointed to find out that any decent phones available come with a mandated data package.   There are two options - for the really nice phones it is $29.99/month, for the basic phones like the LG Envy which I have now it is $9.99/month.   
    So right now I spend on the family plan about $2000 per year on cell phones.  (It used to be about $3,500 before I got my work phone).   If we renewed to the basic LG Envy phones (which I like)  it would be an extra $40/month or $480 per year.  If we upgraded to the nice phones it would be an extra $120/month or $1,440 per year.  For unlimited data usage this is not a bad deal.  
    There is only one problem - I DONT WANT IT OR NEED IT!!!!!!!!   I have computers at home with wireless, a laptop with wireless, an i-touch with wireless.   Also, my spouse or children do not need unlimited data or the internet on their phones!   Who wants to pay for a 16 and 13 year old to have unlimited data and wireless? 
    I  spoke to Verizon customer service and they told me which phones are available with no data package.  Nothing against LG and Samsung but the phones available under those plans are garbage.   They have small screens and are pathetic little phones with limited features.  Even though I don't use the internet on my phone why wouldn't I want one  with a great camera, a large screen for pictures and video messaging?   
    I realize from talking to customer service that they did surveys to see what customers wanted.  I guess I am one of the only people out there that likes advanced features on a phone with out the internet available to me at all times.  I don't agree with this.  Or is it just that it is more convenient to squeeze another $500 or $1500 per year from a family?   Why not double your sales when you can.  I know every other carrier is doing it which is why Verizon can force this on its customers.   Customer service reminded me of this several times. 
    Could we afford donating this money to Verizon for no purpose? Probably but why the {word filter avoidance}
    would we?  No wonder so many people are in debt.  I think our money could be used better to send kids to college, pay the mortgage or invest it.   I think this policy is hostile towards customers.  If they really want to serve their customers offer the phones at higher price without a data package.  I guess that wouldn't work since Verizon makes its money from service agreements not the equipment.  
    - Unhappy Verizon Customer looking for other options......
    Dittos to TedKord!
    There are many with situations similar to yours.  Our first of 5 lines just went month-to-month this week as there are NO UPGRADE OPTIONS to upgrade from an enV2 without the mandatory data surcharge of $120 per year.  If you are a facebook member you can do a search for Verizon and you will find a group there, several thousand strong now, that also agree and share your frustration.  You can also find links there to contact the FTC, FCC, Verizon, etc.   Take a look and join us if you haven't already.

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