Is the Mac Pro capable of running the Classic environment?

My last Mac purchase was a Power Mac G4 running OS 10.4.7, and I can still access System 9 files on it via the Classic application. Now I have a Mac Pro on the way, and I fear the old files won't work on it.
Those old files include thousands of publication graphics created in programs that never progressed to OSX. The illustrations belong to my clients, who still want to use them in their 2007 advertising. On the other hand, if I hope to print our future publications, I'll need to replace worn-out computers, and the new Intel Macs are the only viable option.
If I can't find a way to run old System 9 files, I'll be facing months of overtime recreating the graphics. I suppose that's the price of progress, but I'd sure be grateful if anyone knows of a simpler solution.
Thanks.

To Niel, Malcolm, Robin,
Thanks for the tip on SheepShaver; it looks like a work in progress, and that's interesting.
I've been thinking about ways to convert some of the old files, which seem to trace back to applications like Cachet, Dimensions, Enhance, and Painter, mostly with version numbers like 2.0 or less. On Power PC Macs. I've been able to open documents that include these files with no problems in Adobe Pagemaker and, so far, in Adobe inDesign, probably because the apps are on board. However, there are lots of documents that I haven't yet tried. And even the Adobe applications won't run natively on the Mac Pro until "universal" versions are released sometime next year.
Among work-arounds I'm considering is taking screen shots of the images on my old G4 and using those, but I'll lose resolution doing that.
I really appreciate your suggestions.
-- David H

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