Is the new mac pro 2014 upgradable? if so which parts?

I am a Video editor and graphic designer. i want to know how far can i expand the new mac pro 2014.. which parts on the machine are upgradable.

It is actually "Late 2013" in Apple parlance. Most use "nMP" for New Mac Pro" or you could call it a 6,1
There is no sign or confirmation that the Dxxx can be upgraded unless from another nMP, doubt there will be upgrades while SSD etc are and Apple shows how on product support page how to remove and install memory and the SSD device.

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Premiere Pro CC and the New Mac Pro (2014)

I'm expecting delivery soon of a new Mac Pro, nicely loaded, which I purchased mainly because of all the work I do with video. Yet, I read in a review that Adobe Premiere Pro isn't optimized to take advantage of the new Mac Pro, won't run faster, and I'm better off using Apple's Final Cut.
1. Is this true?; and
2. If so, will Premiere Pro be updated any time soon to run best on a 2014 Mac Pro?
My new Mac Pro will have the following configuration:
3.5GHz 6-core with 12MB of L3 cache
32GB (4x8GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
1TB PCIe-based flash storage
Dual AMD FirePro D700 GPUs with 6GB of GDDR5 VRAM each

My main problem is that when i export using gpu open gl it crashes hard boot the mac pro. A 3 min timeline with 4k footage n a bunch of color grading. I get lucky if the timeline is shorter. But i think it is a gpu issue n my mac must be fixed. Currently under apple tech support. N my case is unique. No one has had the same issue and that makes it harder for me to figure the isse and to apple figure the issue.
If i export using software only mercury then the export goes smoothe no mattrr how long. But that defeata the point of owning a mac pro with 2 GPUs
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I have had my 12 core 2014 Mac Pro for a couple of weeks now, and I'm not very impressed with Premiere CC performance with 4K R3D on a 1920 x 1080 timeline.
I understand that there may be an update soon that will take adantage of the CPU's and GPU's when it comes to the complex task of de-bayering the R3D footage, but it's just not there now.
I get similar playback performance to what I experienced on my 09 Mac Pro tower.
Any insights on getting better playback performance in this scenario would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Premiere Pro CC and the new Mac Pro - are all upgrades necessary?

Monday I'm ordering the new Mac Pro because my Mid 2012 Mac Pro tower is simply too slow and crashy no matter how much money I sink into it. Thing is, every little upgrade I add onto this new Mac Pro is very expensive, so I want to make sure I don't add anything that won't make a difference in edit performance.
My ultimate goal is to be able to work with 4k, and even 5k footage in 2014. More and more clients are giving me Red media, and my system right now can't handle it (I have to render proxy files for everything).
Attached are my hardware upgrade options for my processor and graphics card. These options can only be offered when I order the computer. Neither the processor or the GFX card can be changed by me later. Note that these options alone almost double the computers's price (3600). As of now I assume that getting the fastest everything is the way to go, but is there any reason I should not go this high?
jesse

We have an issue when we send a film to the media encoder it crashes about half of the time for no particular reason
Anyone else got that too with Premiere Pro CC and the new Media encoder?
Lack of detailed info makes your question impossible for anyone to answer you!
eg. ...."Doctor it hurts...anyone else got something that hurts?"

User Upgradability on the new Mac Pro?

I understand that one can configure the new Mac Pro from around $3,000 to almost $10,000. But can one buy the base unit and then upgrade parts later on? For example, RAM upgrade, CPU upgrade, graphic card upgrade, etc.
Is the Mac Pro as quiet as a Mac Mini?

The tear-down images and data on the Xeon E5-xxxxV2 series processors look like the cpu can be upgraded by the user. All E5 processors use the FCLGA - 2011 socket, same pin-out so should be replaceable:
1620V2 - 4 core - 3.7 GHZ - $294
1650V2 - 6 core - 3.5 GHz - $583
1680V2 - 8 core - 3.0 GHz - $1723
2697V2 - 12 core - 2.7 GHz - $2618
Interesting tidbit - the max addressable memory for the 4, 6, 8 core models is 256 GB, while that of the 12 core is 768 GB.

Does the new Mac Pro(Later 2014) had an Audio-In port?

I want to convert a cassette tapes in digital files using my new Mac Pro(Later 2014). Does it have an Audio-in port and where it is located?

The new Mac pro has:
Combined optical digital audio output/analog line out minijack
Headphone minijack with headset support
HDMI port supports multichannel audio output
Built-in speaker
If you want digital audio in:
MacPro (late 2013): Digital audio in - how?

What is the best storage solution for the new Mac Pro

Hi All,
With limited funds when purchasing the new Mac Pro, I'm starting to look at storage for music/pictures/video etc - I'm thinking of storing this data externally and connecting via Thunderbolt or Firewire or USB3 to access the data... Not sure what type of storage to use, upgrading to 1TB PCIe-based flash seems excessive for costs and I would like at least 2TB, anyone have any suggestions?
What are the alternatives for storage... (single disk Raid) I've recently had to replace my internal WD hard drive (lost everything) and the backup time capsule failed, again knackered disk (looks like WD format error with Maverick OS bug), don't want to format them just incase..
With the new Mac Pro coming with 256GB PCIe-based flash storage, I'm reluctant to upgrade the storage because of costs and would like some redudancy when it comes to storage.
Any suggestions?
Many thanks
Russ

landing page at OWC for Thunderbolt products.
Helios enclosure (the new dual-slot Helios PCIe chassis) and moving various hard drives into Thunderbolt cases (in time) but mainly into my favorite USB3 hard drive enclosure.
For those without eSATA enclosures, a simple eSATA to USB3 adapter might do the trick.
USB3 is plenty fast to house two hard drives.
If you can, I'd try to order with 500GB to get started and have more room for system and default for scratch or even for Aperture/iPhoto or Lightroom.
Always take the precaution and zero a drive before use. Want a solid enterprise ideal for RAID, then look no further than Seagate Constellation series. 128MB cache doesn't hurt and fine for RAID5, NAS or whatever you want.
There should be retail PCIe-SSD products in 2014.
Large storage, http://macperformanceguide.com/topic-thunderbolt.html

Rendering problems on the new Mac Pro with premier CC

Previosuly on my iMac, periodically i got strange green compression and distortion on my exports, especially when converting from native canon 5D files to say another format such as quicktime. Now I've upgraded to the new MAC PRO and things are way worse, random distortion, artefacts and coloration is appearing in my final renders, this is almost making my workflow come to a stop. Anyone having same problems? any solutions from Adobe?
I found that deleting the preview files and rendering helps sometimes, but surely this is a terrible bug that needs to be fixed
in preview
and in the exported movie
and even crazy inverted style colours like this
help!

Ditto. I have recently been getting the same problem on export from Premiere.
There's another thread here - Mac Pro Render & Export Glitching...: Apple Support Communities -
Any idea Adobe as this seems to be getting worse and is costing me.

Fcpx poorly optimised for the new mac pro?

'm experiencing low playback performance on fcpx 10.1.2 on my new mac pro:
I'm on a 8-core, 64GB, d700 (project and files are all on the main drive. Im on the latest maverick update.
Im working on prores 1080p and adding some effects to a clip and my playback really drops, so far I have been testing a few plugins such as hawaki "auto-split" or coremelts "track & slice X". I instantly need to render the effects to see the results, the funny thing is the same plugins runs smoothly on my macbook retina.. It made me wonder maybe the 3rd party plugin isn't optimised for the new mac pro but then I tried hawaki auto-split on Premiere cc 2014 and I was getting way better results than fcpx..
This may seem like a trival thing but paying this much money for a product and having a bigger project with different plugins this gets really annoying..
Anyone else experiencing any issues?

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QX 10 – optimised for the new Mac Pro?

I recently upgraded to a new Mac Pro.
So am now considering going back to QX (I am a pro graphic designer).
They have a deal offering special pricing for upgrades from version 3 (AUD $399)!
Question: Is QX 10 optimized for the new Mac Pro?
Any designers (having previously used / using InDesign) out there with QX 10 experience?
Your thoughts please?

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IMac vs the new Mac Pro for video editing in FCPX?

Hi.
I am currently using a macbook air for all my editing and rendering of videos in FCPX. The editing process is reasonably smooth when dealing with shorter clips, but when I tried to edit multicam clips, things started to slow down. Also, the rendering and compression processes are tedious. I am planning to edit and process a much larger number of videos in the next years to come, so I have decided to do a serious upgrade of my system.
For the moment, I am torn between a maxed out iMac 27", which would be the cheapest alternative, and the 6 core Mac Pro or 4 core Mac Pro.
When I look at benchmarks of the new Mac Pro's in Geekbench, the iMac is never very far away in terms of performance. Does tests like this tell anything about how well the Mac Pro will perform in FCP? Does the hardware in the Mac Pro have features which makes it superior to the iMac, in other ways than for example the "pure power" of the CPU and GPU?
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FCP X 10.1, Motion 5.1 Updates w/Dual GPU Support (new Mac Pros) (from Thursday)
Apple released Final Cut Pro X 10.1 Thursday with support for Dual GPUs in the new Mac Pro and more.
Long list in the Final Cut Pro X 10.1 Release Notes that also links to info on How to back up important FCP X 10.0.x files before updating. (Today's Apple docs listing also has more related to Final Cut Pro X 10.1.)
Also out today are Compressor 4.1 and Motion 5.1. Full release notes below but here's a clip from the App store Motion 5.1 changes:
Optimized playback and rendering using dual GPUs in the new Mac Pro
FxPlug 3 with custom plug-in interfaces and dual-GPU support
Faster project loading, especially for complex projects
Share directly to YouTube at 4K resolution
Spanish language localization
Dual FirePro Dxxx Rendering FCP-X
http://www.barefeats.com/tube05.html
Intel Xeon processors are designed to run 24/7 and stay cool and under load.
Mac Pro so far hold up strongly for years, easy to add and upgrade RAM and processor, and maybe, hopefully, even the twin GPUs. Thunderbolt2 for all your projects and storage as well.
6 or 8-cores is going to walk away from iMac which is breathing hard and not designed for constant heat. Haswell was designed to conserve and reduce.

I'm in the market for the new Mac Pro.

I'm in the market for the new Mac Pro. I've been waiting for it to be released and have some cash set aside for this. I am a video editor and use Premiere Pro CC, and After Effects. My primary content is simple documentary films - so nothing too intense, but always HD (1080) video. I don't see 4k in my future but it's always a possibility so I want to future-proof my purchase for the next 3 years or so. With respect to storage space and RAM, I can make that decision myself based mostly on cashflow (since they are likely both user-expandable). However, with the basic configuration of the number of cores and video graphics card, I could use some advice. I think they are both set for the life of the computer, so important to get it right.
My current thinking is to start with the 6 core model (I guess I have no real reason for this decision, except that I feel like the 4-core base model is put there to make the price feel lower, while the real advantages in performance start at the 6 core - am I way off on this one?). But, I wonder if I should spring for the 8 core or even the 12 core? Probably overkill for me - out of my budget anyway.
The other decision is the graphics card - is the D500 enough? Will it be limiting factor in the future? Or should I move to D700?
Here are the cost differences:
from 6 core to 8 core is $1500
from D500 to D700 is $600
Which is worth it? (neither, both?)
Thanks.

Whether it's worth it depends more on you and what your current and future needs are.
The good news is that Adobe's CC apps can already take advantage of the AMD FirePro GPU's in the Mac Pro, and offer hardware acceleration of the Mercury Playback Engine, which you'll see in Premiere, After Effects, and Media Encoder. According to the Adobe staffers I've talked to, even the FirePro D300's will see a big benefit, in fact they say you won't see a big bump by upgrading the GPU. As far as Adobe's apps are concerned, their OpenCL use is all single precision, and the D500/D700 upgrades put a lot of weight in double precision performance (which is unused in their apps). Their recommendation - put the bulk of your budget on cores and RAM.
How many depends on how elaborate and complex your work is. Simple documentary films with the odd effects, transitions, titles, and grading.. you'd be fine with a 6-core IMO. If you're leaning towards getting into really layered comps and effects, you'd shorten those long render times down a lot with the 8-core. As for memory, I'd recommend at least 4GB per physical core.
Good luck!

The new Mac Pro (6,1) and TRIM

With its economical internal design and limited internal expansion options, the new Mac Pro depends heavily on the speed and flexibility of Thunderbolt 2 for expansion. In the old days, we could add four HDs in the internal bays and one more under the optical drive. This also allowed us, if we used SSDs instead of HDs, to enable TRIM for other than Apple drives.
We know that TRIM doesn't work with a USB 3.0 connection. The question is, can TRIM be enabled on an SSD connected in some fashion through Thunderbolt? I know that graphics cards can be plugged into an external PCIe expansion chassis and that eSATA SSDs, such as the OWC Mercury Accelsior_E2, can plug in too. But does having to pass through the Thunderbolt interface interfer with or prevent TRIM support? For that matter, what kind of external connection to an SSD at the other end of the Thunderbolt cable would be able to support TRIM? I'm currently using a CalDigit PCIe card which provides two eSATA external connections, and when a NewerTech Voyager Q is connected and an SSD plugged into it (like putting bread in a toaster), the drive is seen as "Rotational" in System Information, and TRIM cannot be enabled.
Since TRIM support is important for continued performance and longer life of SSDs, is this an issue with the new Mac Pro's design philosophy?

Hopeful but not comforting.
With Mavericks, not all SSDs will report TRIM support, but doing a benchmark both before and after the change should confirm that TRIM is functional.
I should see TRIM = YES and not from some benchmark.
Thunderbolt support for TRIM is good. But Intel has as yet? never supported TRIM on an array, so not sure how that is accomplished.
"Is" or "may" and "could" - I just wouldn't make a "TRIM is supported by 10.8.5 and later" as it may vary by Macs that had native SATA III with PCIe support, the new Samsung controller Apple has been using. Certainly not in 5,1 Mac Pro except if and only for an Apple SSD BTO upgrade.

What kind of monitor is recommended for the new Mac Pro?

I want ot upgrade to the new Mac Pro from an imac, but what kind of display/monitor would be recommended and how much might it cost?

There are lots of 27"-30" monitors that would work, with the right connector adaptor. Many sell for around a 1/3rd of an Apple display. Personally, I like Samsung monitors, but LG makes some very nice ones, and even Dell's monitors are often quite good. Acer has some nice large screen monitors out too, and while the name might not be commonly known to many people, they are and have been a major equipment manufacturer for decades now and their quality is usually pretty good.
Keep an eye out for sales in the coming weeks and go look at some, preferably side by side.
You should be able to pick up something good in the 25"-30" range for easily under $500/$600 USD (on sale, perhaps well under $300).

How to use hard drives with the new mac pro

A few quick questions about upgrading to new Mac pro desktop
I currently have 4 internal hard drives for a total of 8T
What will the solution be to add storage to the new desktop?
I assume it will be thunderbolt options?
Lets say I wanted at least 8TB of storage to add to the computer
and attached the storage via thunderbolt will it be as fast data throughput
as the harddrives in my current computer hooked up to the external bus?
I also have a pci card running my audio plugins for Universal Audio how will those pci
cards work on the new mac pro?

Also will the transfer rate with the pegas be as fast as if the drives were connected to the bus in the machines like the old mac pro?
To answer that, think of this as a Bottleneck problem. The overall performance is as slow as the slowest device.
At this writing typical rotating drives can produce a momentary burst at 125 MBytes/sec or 1,000 Mbits/sec. Only FireWire 800 is starting to be a limit for that -- EVERYTHING else is faster. Thunderbolt-1 is 10,000 Mbits/sec -- ten times faster.
The best SSD can produce a burst at maybe 800 MBytes/sec or 6,400 Mbits/sec. There is not a big speed difference in an SSD RAID, because the latency is already low. But the 10,000 Mbits/sec of ThunderBolt-1 is still plenty fast enough for that as well.
If ThunderBolt-2 devices really can run a single data stream at 20,000 Mbits/sec, that does not make ANYTHING faster -- it just moves the ceiling (potential bottleneck) a bit farther away.

How fast is the new Mac Pro 8 core comparred to Mac Pro 4 core?

Hi,
I consider to update my 1.5 year old Mac Pro 2.66 ghz (4 core) to a Mac Pro 8 core. I use this machine as the center in my studio running Logic 8. I use a lot of V.I. and plugs.
Can anyone tell me anything about the gain in performance that is possible upgrading to an 8 core?
Or show me where to find information. MacWorld use to be my resource in that kind of matters, but they never use Logic as a test program.
Thanks in advance!
Stigc56
Musicmind.dk

Glenn,
The new Mac Pro will be faster at everything when compared to your older PowerMac, but I think the first 2 items you list will be more dependent upon drive speed.
1. The FSB and memory are faster in the new Mac Pro, but reading from the CD will only be as fast as the optical drive can handle.
2. How fast the TIFF file is displayed in the Finder may be more dependent upon the read speed of the hard drive than the processing speed required to create the thumbnail view displayed by the Finder.
3. Working in CS3 should definitely be faster. Even though you didn't want a response that linked to a test, the following BareFeat test should show how much faster CS3 is on the new Mac Pro.
http://www.barefeats.com/harper.html
Keith

Is the new mac pro 2014 upgradable? if so which parts?

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