Is the non retina mbp have a user replaceable battery/hdd/ram

i am fairly new to the newer macs i have an old powermac g5 and an ibook g4 rest of my computers are pcs i have heard that the retnas are pretty much unupgradeable/nothing is fixable are the non retina i am looking at a late 2013 non retina

Many people do that. Personally I would like to maximize the storage as well, but the bank account gets emptied very quickly.
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Another thing to consider is that the Retina MBP does not have an optical drive. You will need to purchase an external optical drive. The non-Retina MBP do have an optical drive.
I do not know what sixth form is. If it has anything to do w/education, you should check into Apple - Education Discounts

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Too early for the retina, too late for the non retina? Which one?

Hi everyone,
Sorry for yet another "Which MBP should I buy" post but I have read through all the of the discussions I can find on this topic as well as around the web.
I am a digital designer who is currently using a PC only because up until now I have never been in the financial position to transition over to Mac.
I am currently trying to decide between getting a a 15" Mac Book Pro or 15" Retina Mac Book Pro.
15-inch: 2.6GHz
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750GB 5400-rpm hard drive1
Intel HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
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8GB 1600MHz memory
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I will be using Adobe CS6 Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash and Dreamweaver sometimes all at the same time. I occasionally have a video project where I will be using Premiere and After Effects. I am also looking into upskilling myself and becoming versed in at least basic 3D modelling. I am looking at a MBP because portability is important.
Given my job, going retina seems like a no brainer but I have a few concerns:
Speed, processing power - which will suit my needs?
This is an investment for me, I want it to last at least 3-4 years:
Is getting a standard MBP now just too late and bidding in the past?
Will resale of a standard MBP suck in 3-4 years?
In 3 years time will I need an upgrade, and if so, how will I even do this with a virtually unupgradeable (from what Ive read) Retina MBP?
About 80% of the time I plan on hooking up the MBP to a Thunderbolt display - whats the point in a Retina?
If I don't get a Retina and I need to start designing Retina graphics, will I be faced with added dificulty because I use standard MBP?
Is it realistic to assume Retina graphics won't become mainstream for 3-4 years allowing me to bide my time with a standard MBP, upgrading to a Retina later?
At work I use a 2-3 year old iMac and the screen is already magical compared to my PC and it seems to do fine for me. I've been in store and played with both and I am genuinely confused. I just feel like getting a standard MBP is like jumping on a train when it's already reached it's destination.
Budget wise I can afford the base level Retina MBP I outlined above but if I can save money, that'd be ideal. Being me I will automatically chose the best possible solution but I need to be rational about my needs. Someone please help, I just want a Mac!
Thanks in advance, any help is much appreciated

kytim wrote:
I need to be rational about my needs.
In general
Retina cannot upgrade RAM. Storage can be upgraded, but more $ than upgrading the non-Retina unit.
Non-Retina unit can upgrade RAM base-4 GB to 16 GB for about $85 (cf. OWC.) HD can be replaced with SSD or larger HD.
Therefore lack of "upgradability" in Retina
No optical drive in Retina.
The non-Retina has Ethernet and FireWire ports, and a slot for a secure cable- the Retina none of these ports.

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In stock here:
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Hey knigar,
Thanks for the question, and welcome to Apple Support Communities.
When troubleshooting issues with external displays, I find the following article provides the most relevant information:
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1573
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i've had the same decission, the same budget and the Mac was for the same purposes (a little bit of coding and the rest just for normal work at university). So what do you think i ordered yesterday? Exactly the same configuration you posted above! Why? The Retina Macbook Pro was too expensive, the other 15'' models haven't got SSDs and when you choose the buy to order option with SSD you can just go and buy the Retina Macbook. So there's only the 13'' MacBook Pro left (if you want a Macbook Pro - i wanted one because the configuration of an MB Air with the 1,8GHz Prozessor and 8GB of Ram is more expansive than the Macbook pro Configuration you posted above, plus u have less of processor power. And i don't mind carrying around 800g more, for mobile working i have an iPad). Then i had to go with the i7 MBP because on the long runs you will definetly need his power. And in a few years you would regret if you chose less power.... and SSD is a must have just like 8GB of ram.
And when you think about the future you always have the possibilty to upgrade your Mac to 16gb of ram or to an 512 gb ssd (when they are cheaper :P) cause the "thick" macbooks have those parts not directly on the mainboard so that they can be changed by yourself in just a few minutes. And if your missing a dedicated graphic card the future will bring thunderbold graphic cards.
For OSX Mountain Lion you don't have to wait. If you buy your mac now the upgrade is free so it is does not matter that much. You can always wait for better times but waiting for ever shouldn't be the goal.
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Thanks for the Reply Marcus,
I know it almost seems like a no-brainer, but the non-replaceable parts really concerns me. I've had my current macbook pro for 5 years now, (having to replace a few things in the last year) and I would like this next purchase to last as long. If say something goes after the 3 year apple warranty expires, do you know how much something like the hard drive or audio jack or battery would cost to replace? Also, the non retina is a high res matte screen, if that makes any difference to anyone.
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