Is there a admin_client.jar et all. for OC4J9.0.4.x.x, OC4J10.1.2.x.x ?

I want to deploy a WAR file onto these oldies in one swoop, as is possible with admin_client.jar from the command line.

There's no way to do that with releases prior to 10.1.3.
There is the j2ee\home\admin.jar utility, but it only deploys ear files.
I've seen it done by the wrapping into an ear file with ant then calling admin.jar to deploy it.
-steve-

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Oc4j provide two jar for admin purpose: admin.jar and admin_client.jar. what are the differnce between them?

I'm sure I've provided an answer for this before -- try searching this forum and see if its there.
In short: admin.jar is old and uses a bunch of internal APIs.
admin_client.jar is a new implementation in 10.1.3.x and it uses JMX/JSR77/JSR88 APIs as its basis. It supports config/deployment operations against ALL the OC4J variants -- standalone, OracleAS single instance or OracleAS groups. We've tried to ensure that admin_client.jar has all the necessary coverage from admin.jar -- the syntax is very similar and all the relevant commands are carried forward.
If you are making a choice, choose admin_client.jar.
-steve-

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Guys,
I am using admin_client.jar utility which comes oracle 10.1.3 to deploy our web-application on the oc4j server, everythings is working fine, except for this small issue, where i want to avoid having the shared library "oracle.jdbc" inherited by web-module (which is by default inherited by all apps apparently), since i want to use the oracle-jdbc driver bundled with the war. Now i do that the solution is to introduce a "remove-inherited" tag (for the oracle.jdbc library) under the "inherited-shared-libraries" element in the orion-application.xml file (generated on deployment by oc4j), but what i want to know is how to automate this process of adding this entry, since we dont want to have any manual intervention on deployment.
Though admin_client.jar so far has provided all the functionality required for deployment but it apprarently doesnt any way where we can specify the shared-libraries not to be inherited by the deployed war..
Any comments/suggestions ?
Thanks and Regards,
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Alright that makes sense.
Yes, spot on. The suggestion I made was contingent on having an EAR file -- even though we accept a WAR file from you, we ultimately produce an EAR file from it during the deployment phase. If you don't want to produce an EAR file then its not viable for you.
Another possible solution is one that you are sort of suggesting here -- each application can be specified as a child of a parent application -- from which it will inherit various libraries and configuration settings.
What you could do is to deploy a single, dedicated application on which you configure the shared-library import to the JDBC driver you want -- and then you simply choose that application as the parent, whereupon the child application will pick up the shared-library setting.
There current, visible parent of all deployed applications is the "default" application. What you could do is to tweak the configuration of the default applicaiton so it uses a different JDBC library to the one it inherits from its actual parent (the system application). The configuration for the default application is contained within the j2ee/home/config/application.xml file -- which if you look at it, is actually an "orion-application.xml" file. So if you make the change there, it will apply to all the applications that are deployed to the container.
Just found it in the doc:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B32110_01/web.1013/b28952/classload.htm#CIHFFBCA
Even easier, what you evaluate is a simpler approach where you install and publish the Oracle JDBC driver you wish to use, with the name "oracle.jdbc" and set it with a higher version (which I assume you are doing) than the deafault one -- whereby from how the config in the application.xml is set and where the oracle.jdbc driver is imported, it should pick up the higher version -- so that way you don't even need to change the config file -- simply publish the later versioned library using the name oracle.jdbc and it should be picked up.
Currently the version in 10.1.3.3 is:
<shared-library name="oracle.jdbc" parent="api" version="10.1.0_2">
So if you published the jdbc driver you want to use with the name oracle.jdbc and a higher version, then the import of oracle.jdbc will default to the latest version, which should pick up your library.
Thus all you need to do is a one-off publishing operation of a new shared-library (oracle.jdbc: 10.1.2.3 for example) and it then should be picked up implicitly by all deployed applications.
Worth testing my theory though ... ;-)
-steve-

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I would like our developers to be able to deploy their applications to OAS 10.1.3.1 on Solaris via command line. They already have an administrator login for OAS.
It appears that the default permissions for admin_client.jar is 750 meaning that only those in the dba group have read/execute access to this jar by default.
So my question is: What is the typical supported method for allowing developers to deploy their applications via command line?
Do you simply open permissions on the jar and that's fine?
Do you install the remote client administration tool and open permissions on that?
I know that they can deploy very easily in JDeveloper, but many developers here are using eclipse instead, and we may also want to automate the deployment into our build scripts, so I'd like to know how to open the access up to do this via OAS CLI utilities.
Let me know what you all are doing out there for your developers and how this is intended to be used by those that are not DBAs.
Thanks!
Tony

OK, in case anyone else had the same issues, here is what I ended up doing to resolve the issue:
Basically I created a new unix group for those I wished to have access to admin_client.jar util and layed down the oc4j remote administration zip with that user.
In our env the steps looked like this:
1. Create Group oc4jadm
2. Create User oc4jinst (group oc4jadm)
3. Add all users that will deploy apps to the oc4jadm group
4. Unzip the remote client with oc4jinst user
5. All files are now accessible by the oc4jadm group
6. Test admin_client.jar with normal user in the oc4jadm group
7. Everything works great.
This way I could install OAS 10.1.3.1 with the oracle user and dba group like normal and not have to dig around and haphazardly grant access to the various dirs and files required by the admin_client.jar. Everything required is bundled up in the remote admin client zip and it may be installed with a user other than oracle without issue. Plus it has the added bonus of working remote servers in case you don't want your developers accessing the server on which the OAS itself resides.
HTH,
Tony

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(Would be nice to get a definitive answer on scripting though)
Anyway...
As a follow-up question. Will there also be functionality (or is there already functionality) which lets me change JVM settings of OC4J components as they are declared in the opmn.xml, using only command line (and/or scripting) tools?
Thanks

Jan -- there is no out of the box command line utility that can amend the JVM settings for an OC4J instance.
As Deepak alluded to, it is possible to do this using JMX because all the OPMN configuration elements are all reachable from JMX. This means you can create whatever Java JMX client you desire to modify the settings, or use a scripting environment which provides nice support for JMX (for example Groovy with its GroovyMBean) to access and use the OpmnConfig MBean set to change the OPMN configuration values.
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-steve-

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Not sure what you are trying to do and why you would use gij, as only specific JDKs are certified for use:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/ias/files/oracle_soa_certification_101310.html
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