Is there a charge for going on-line using my iPhone?

Is there a separate one time or recurring charge for going on-line with my iPhone?

With cellular, yes, as per your data plan with your carrier.
With home wifi, no additional charge on top of your home broadband cost.
With public wifi, depends... some are free, some charge by the hour, day , week, etc.

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I am already paying for data so why is there a charge for tethering?

I would really like to upgrade my Droid to a Droid 4 and use the WiFi hot spot feature. I have not done so yet because Verizon wants to charge me to use this feature of the phone. This appears to be illegal and I cannot understand and justify paying a monthly fee for something I am already paying for. I have seen a few posts on other websites trying to explain why Verizon or any other provider can charge for enabling a feature and not providing any additional service to the consumer however they are all very flawed attempts. I just want a VERY VERY VERY good reason why this is legal and justifiable. Please give me a convincing argument as to why anyone can charge twice for the same thing.
Tethering does not increase the data capacity of the phone. Tethering allows the phone to act as a bridge (modem) between a device to the network.
Q: Does Bandwidth increase?
A: No, if the bandwidth to your phone is 8 Mbps, enabling tethering does not change the bandwidth therefore if a YouTube video is running on the phone and three other devices tethered to the phone they will be sharing the 8 Mbps bandwidth. This means that each device would only be able to use 2 Mbps of bandwidth under heavy usage. (You will not actually get an even split for several reasons and all combined will be less than 8 Mbps but that is due to overhead and OS limitations.)
Q: Am I allowed to use more data now that I am paying more?
A: No, if your data plan is for 2 GB per month, you will be charged extra for using more than 2 GB in one month. This includes the data usage of the phone and other devices while they are tethered to your phone.
Q: Is there any reason to charge for tethering?
A: (My opinion but I would like to be proven wrong.) The only possible justifiable reason may be for those who have unlimited data plans. Verizon and other providers must provide a level of service that customers will be pleased with. I could be wrong but it would be difficult for someone to use too much data on their phone alone. (I know there are exceptional cases but this is true for the majority.) Verizon and other providers plan the network based on an average (i.e. 1 GB per month) usage for each phone with data. It is much easier and more likely users would consume more data if a device such as a laptop is tethered to the phone therefore users with unlimited plans would cost the provider more money to increase the bandwidth of the backbone. (Limited plans will be charged more but unlimited data customers are not as there is no limit, which is a problem.)
IMHO: The right thing for Verizon and other providers to do is to stop requesting that phones be shipped which require a provision from the provider so they can charge for the feature. There is legal precedent that it is illegal for a provider of a service to charge a customer for additional devices using their services if the provider is not providing additional service.
In order for Verizon and other providers to address issues with network capacity and unlimited data subscribers there are a few options available. One is to provide an incentive for those users to switch from unlimited to limited data plans or provide a credit for a device upgrade, etc. An other option is to keep things as they are with phone provisioning but provide tethering to limited data users for no additional charge and to charge users with unlimited plans for tethering. (BTW: I think is the best option.)
FYI: I do have an unlimited data plan and would be willing to switch to limited data if tethering were included and the prices were the same. Right now there is no incentive for me to switch to a different data plan especially if I need to pay for tethering in addition to limited data. I currently have an iPad with AT&T service which is an additional fee I am paying but if I drop the AT&T plan, upgrade my phone, and add tethering, I would be paying more and getting less so why should I? (The less is that my iPad would not get email updates, etc. except when I turn the WiFi hot spot on, which I understand runs down the battery so you do not want it on 24x7. Oh, another reason Verizon and others should not charge for tethering as tethering is not available 24x7)
Please I would like some straight honest answers to why it is legal for Verizon and others to charge for tethering and why I should pay for it.

I want clarify what I am asking for as I fear that many people may be thinking what Wildman stated which is not true. I think it is presumptuous for Wildman to think that I am not sincere and that I will not award points for a correct answer. The closest one to come to a correct answer thus far is jimfitzgerald however I need to see the policy or something in writing that explains what jimfitzgerald stated.
To help clarify what I am looking for, I will respond to some earlier posts as I think it may help.
BTW: I think it is premature to ask that points be awarded but I will put a deadline and a default to this discussion. If I don't see a good answer to this post by next weekend, I plan to award the points to Wildman as the points seem to be of importance. I am actually hoping that a good answer is provided so that it will help anyone else who is in the same situation as myself. I think there must be a good answer as I would hope that carriers would not charge for this feature if they are really not providing an additional service. I also would hope that customers are not gullible enough to pay for something twice which on the surface this appears to be. This does seem to come up enough that the carriers should do a better job explaining what they are providing.
From: jimfitzgerald on Feb 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Quote: "Also, the tethering plan does add capacity to your plan."
Response: Please provide a reference to the Verizon Source which states this and I will award points as this is an acceptable answer and is what I am looking for as stated in my original post. I cannot just accept a general statement like this as it will carry no wait if I get charged for going over my data limit.
From: rcschnoor on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Quote: "Question #1 ... you will be consuming TWICE as much data ..."
Response: This is incorrect as the 4G LTE connection will not be able to provide any more data per second than the phone itself. I think you meant to state that you may consume your limit of n GB per month in a period of a week on a laptop verses 3 weeks on the phone which is correct. If you continue to consume data past your limit, you will need to pay more for it so what is your point? If you don't pay more for going over if you have the tethering plan then that makes all the difference. This would be my misunderstanding and would be an acceptable answer. If this is the case, please point me to the Verizon documentation which states this and I will award points.
From: rcschnoor on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Quote: "Question #2 ... You get an ADDITIONAL allowance for your use when you activate a mobile hot-spot."
Response: This seems to allude to the fact that I may not understand how data usage is counted when tethering is added to your plan. Please provide a reference so I can read it and I will award points. Hopefully we are coming to answer here.
From: rcschnoor on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Quote: "Question #3 ... but I don't think anyone would be happy with a monthly data bill of $60+ dollars."
Response: You are correct which is why I am having an issue with this. If I upgrade and keep my current unlimited plan, I will be paying $75 per month for data and tethering. To make matters worse, currently I am not a heavy data user as much of the time I have access to WiFi. I am considering switching to a 2 GB per month plan based on my current usage but I hate to give up my current plan as I will not be able to go back. I will switch however if the tethering was not an added cost or there is in fact an additional data allocation for tethered devices. I already feel that I am overpaying for data based on my current usage. The problem with switching plans is I could see if I have tethering, I may go over one or two months per year as once in a great while I need access and do not have WiFi available.
FYI: Here is a breakdown of my current usage.
- Verizon Phone: (Unlimited data @ $45/month) Average Usage 0.23 GB/month
- AT&T iPad: (2 GB/month @ $25) Average usage 0.89 GB/month
I do have another problem with switching which is unrelated to the data plan but is related to usage but will increase my cost per month.
From: jimfitzgerald on Feb 18, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Quote: "Or, in summary, charging for tethering is a way to make the people who use lots of data pay for it, rather than having everyone share the cost whether they use it or not."
Response: Sorry but my experience is just the opposite.
I would like to thank everyone who has tried to answer this question. It looks like there may be an answer but I would like to see it explained in black and white from the Verizon site. I cannot switch plans based on posts in this forum alone. If I were to switch then get hit with additional charges one month, I cannot call customer service and say that jimfitzgerald and rcschnoor told me that there was an additional data being provided to tethered devices.
I hope this helps and I hope this can be answered soon.

Is there a charge for re-downloading and audiobook

Is there a charge for re-downloading and audiobook on iTunes? My second computer is an authorized iTunes Match, but it doesn't load all my audiobook. If I download an audiobook that I already purchased via iTunes, Am I going to be charged again?
Thanks

Yes you will be charged again.
Audiobooks are not mentioned as being part of icloud.

Is there a charge for texting from ipod touch to non apple phones?

My kids have ipod touches and a couple of their friends have cell phones they are texting to. Is there a charge for this? They do have Textie, but I don't think all of the kids have that on their phones.

It depends what application you are using. The standard Messenger application that comes with iPod 5.0 Software can only messenge iPod to iPod. A third party application, such as textPlus, (which I use) can text to phones for free, with internet connection. The incoming text dosn't charge the recipient. So it is, as it says, free texting.

I received a car charger for xmas. I have an iPhone 4. Is there a difference in the charging dock between the older and newer iphones? I don't want to damage it by shoving a cable in that is designed for a newer model.

I received a car charger for xmas. I have an iPhone 4. Is there a difference in the charging dock between the older and newer iphones? I don't want to damage it by shoving a cable in that is designed for a newer model.

there are 2 connectors the old pin30 and the new ligthing bolt
they don't look very much alike so if anybody were damage byt forcing it in it would be their own fault seeing how diffrent they are

Is there an app for BC sage line 50 integration

Is there an app for BC sage line 50 integration so visitors can draw down invoices and elivery notes onto theire web area

I am really confused, not at this stuff but at what your saying and not reading.
I am not sure why your not reading things:
You seem to think I am disagreeing with you on some things where I am not. your glossing over the things I am saying and I think you do not realise a number of things about open platform.
In terms of SOAP TheBCMan, your actually incorrect on the authentication and just doing an app using username and password creates a big problem in the scope of an app.
In terms of email and password - This has to be a user. So what your saying in terms of an app that may be on the app store etc - Someone has to create a user access or configure the app with their details before it will work. This is only viable for a one off app and custom solution for 1 site and either requiring a user slot for an app or needing one created.
This option is not really viable if your creating a true open platform app and has those problems and overkill in terms of your code access.
Developer reference
"To use a site token instead of username/password, send an empty username field and the site token as the password. See example below."
This works great, and you can see it is right there in the documentation. So there is a token.
What this means for your app, and the reason this is here is that you can create an app through SOAP (and again, we got apps out there doing this! lol) and NOT require a username and password. You do not have to request it in your app, no manual setup, no need to have a user or ensure a user exists in an app, works with any user, changes to users in the admin etc.
This means that the app can be sold viable to multiple people as a proper product, its less code and no use requirements.
- Liam is confusing a REST API with the SOAP XML API.
No, I know what is REST and what is SOAP, I also have been talking BC about open platform testing it etc, and for some time. Also helped with feedback on what is more important to turn into REST. BC plan to do so as I mentioned with those conversations.
What you are not reading and understanding is what works in terms of open platform and between and app and 3rd party server data which is what I mentioned.
- Even if you needed an authentication token (which you do not) it still would be possible to use Javascript with said token.
Yep, as I mentioned, and Yes, in terms of viable apps on sale you need to use the authentication token, not username and password option - Thats a bad idea and not a viable selling app. And it is more straight forward with the authentication token, so your also over complicating things.
- YOU CAN with Javascript in a BC app (admin area) access the full SOAP XML API. NOTE: You need to put usernames and passwords in the JavaScript so there is that security consideration.
No need for username and password, and as I keep saying which your ignoring, I am 1. not talking about this in most of the bits I have said and 2. WE DO THIS, we were the first having this working in open platform (Which has been available to us through alpha as partner advisory board partners)
- YOU CAN access the API with plain old HTML and JS from the front end of the site (in this case ONLY a 3rd party middle man server needed because I would never put login credentials client side).
Of course, again Pretty offers things like email validation to more complex things, BUT to be secure this needs to be done properly with good authentication. Like any decent web application and their API access etc. Your handling personal data on BC sites in the CRM etc, not doing this properly would be lazy and stupid as I am sure you agree. But based on your comments you can give people the wrong idea about open platform and apps.
- YOU ARE / I AM NOT breaking any rules or guidelines set out by BC or adobe because you are using plain old Javascript and HTML.
Not true, I have done lots of things, and provided feedback on what I have done with BC, checked with them and been advised what is valid, what is not. When I was accessing lots of elements of the admin, as I mentioned already here along with other things.. this and other reasons were the reasons why BC introduced apps under a different domain and iframe so they could not access the parent frames dom objects etc.
Because it is HTML and javascript it is also NOT true that you do not have to follow any guidelines or rules, yes you do. From HTML apps with other platforms like windows you can use javascript and HTML but there is authentication, methods etc. BC has already introduced this, apps are already sandboxed and the security features as I have already mentioned will be increased. Also, because these are built apps, you can not just go in and rip peoples code. Unlike a web app where the source is available, while you may view an app, if BC or the BC app store file code ripped from other apps, this breaks that apps copyright and you will be liable.
It is early days for open platform but from ownership to security and data access they are very much in the scope of app and are/will and continue to be in that scope. Like I said, if your hacking Webapp API now outside of an app - BC do not want you to do it and will close the loop holes.
Addition: As another note, You of course, can not just make an app and it will work. You have to register the app with BC, You have to declare your development site, note when the app is live so it can be deployed. Apps as well fall under security access limitations. You can not just deploy an app on a site run by another partner, neither you or the site owner can validate the app, only the other partner. This is to ensure that it is not dodgy.
The BCappstore has spent a lot of time and money and have access API's via BC to authenticate and deploy apps properly as well. If nothing of what I was saying was correct, none of this would be in place.
- Security is my number 1 focus on any project every time, I would not compromise security of any development work I did for easy of use or a cool idea. I would turn away work before compromising yours or my security on a project.
That is great to here, I do not expect or consider any different from someone with the experience you have. You should fully well understand that despite it being Javascript and HTML or because of It as well in other regards, BC are working to introduce increased security to open platform as they already have from the first iterations. I am not sure why your arguing me on this if this is how you feel?
I am still not sure what your having ago at me for.

HT1807 how do I make sure to encounter charges for roaming but still use my phone on wifi? I have viber app and would like to message also without additional charges. Is there a setting I need to hit to ensure this?

Travel internationally and use my ipohne with wifi, how do I make sure to avoid charges for roaming but still use my internet and messaging on wifi? I have viber app and would like to message also without additional charges. Is there a setting I need to hit to ensure this?

Settings>General>Network>Roaming>Data Roaming>Off. If you really want to be absolutely certain, Settings>General>Network>Cellular Data>Off.

Is there a charge for cell phone if from Verizon to Verizon?

Is there a charge for cell phone if from Verizon to Verizon?

Are you asking if there is a charge for a CALL between two Verizon Mobile phones? Depends on the plan
If you are asking about a call to a Verizon landline from a Verizon Cell phone, then there is a charge, unless the number is part of your Friends and Family List

HT204053 Is there a charge for MobileMe or ICloud?

Is there a charge for MobileMe or ICloud?

Linda74020 wrote:
I purchased iLife for my 10.6.3 Mac, and it says it won't load without a MobileMe account.
Where did you purchase it? There shouldn't be any requirement for MobileMe. You would be best off asking about this in one of the iLife forums - I should try this one:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/ilife/iphoto
Make sure to tell them your Mac's system, and what version of iLife it is and whether it's a boxed set.

HT204380 is there a charge for facetime

is there a charge for facetime

FaceTime is currently free and will probably stay that way unless Verizon does something. A rumor floated around that AT&T cellular FaceTimes would cost extra, but it turns out they just require you to switch to a newer cell phone plan to use it on ther network (which to me could end up like paying), of course it is always undoubtedly free on wifi no matter what.

FROM THE PHONE DUMMY: What comes with the monthly phone charge. Internet? Email? Ect? Is there extra charges for these?

FROM THE PHONE DUMMY: What comes with the monthly phone charge. Internet? Email? Ect? Is there extra charges for these?

internet, email, sending/receiving pics, facebook, twitter, etc are using part of the basic 2 gig allowance for data.
many folks use wi-fi at home/work/any place with wi-fi & that isn't using any of the data.

Why is there a charge for apps on the mac laptops and computers

Why is there a charge for apps on the Mac laptops and computers and not on the Ipad or Iphone? And the same apps are cheaper on my Nook?

Kind of unfair. I get the cheapest ones on my Nook and all my friends that have Iphones and Ipads are free.
Thankyou for answering me though

HT1222 How can I check if I currently have QuickTime 7? Is there a charge for QuickTime 7.7.3 and what is the charge for the QuickTime 7 Pro registration?

How can I check if I currently have QuickTime 7? Is there a charge for QuickTime 7.7.3 and what is the charge for the QuickTime 7 Pro registration?

This is the iPhone forum, you should check the Quicktime forum. But, to try and help a little, I would say go to Help, About Quicktime and it should tell you what version it is. Also, Quicktime Pro does have a cost involved.

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