Is there a point?

Last night I finally tried to install the new iOS4 onto my iPhone 3G. Like most people, it was nothing but problems. I waited over 2 hours for it to backup, before I finally gave in, and stopped it. I tried again thinking something had just glitched on it. It happened again, so I stopped it again and gave up. I googled any problems with it, and low and behold, its a common issue.
I have read many posts about how it will download faster if you backup, and then do a restore on your phone. I'm not sure if this will cause more problems in the end. I use windows, not a mac, and I have heard people having issues with restoring. I'm not really willing to lose half my stuff over a new OS.
I read further and found out that the new update is slowing the iPhone 3G down to a horrible speed. Because the 3G isn't already slow enough after 2 years? Lol.
Is there a point to downloading the new OS? Are there actually some good experiences with it out there? Someone? Anyone?
I am upgrading to the new iPhone 4 as soon as Apple lets Canada have it. (Thanks for screwing Canada again Apple!) So I'm undecided whether this is worth it for me to waste the next 8 hours loading something onto my working 3G or if I should just wait an extra month or 2 for the new iPhone4.
Thanks! =)

I would wait for the new phone to come to you. when i tried the update i lost my pictures, settings and ringtones on my phone. i had to sit on the phone with apple for an hour to reset my phone because the update corrupted my old backup folder in itunes with all my stuff in it. not worth the update for the 3g because it doesnt give you all the features like multitasking...and i have found it has slowed my phone down alot..apple is also only releasing like 1 million new phones a month so you may be waiting longer than 2 months. even people who pre-ordered are being pushed back because so many people have wanted this phone but still worth the wait i think.

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