Is there a switch for starting FF minimized ?

I'm looking for a command line switch that will start Firefox minimized.
Thunderbird too, if possible

Sure there are.
To open Firefox/other Moz apps/ use the parameter -silent and you will get it.
See also how I use it to speed up load time of Firefox here: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/762446#answer-119951

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