Is there a way to have my folders stored on my server instead of my desktop?
My server has multiple backup options whereas my workstation desktop does not. I would like to keep my folders on the server and not on my local drive. Is this possible? If not, can I keep Thunderbird on my sever and have more than one person logged into it at one time, each with their own set of folders and account?
You can move your profile to a different machine, but you need to make it available for Thunderbird, e.g. via a network share or network mount, depending on your OS.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_:_FAQs_:_Network_Access
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Is there any way to have Mail automatically use our default "Sent" folder?
We are a small college, with a fair number of users who use Macs and iOS devices, and we run an IMAP mail server. By default, our accounts are configured with Sent, Trash, Drafts, and Junk folders. Apple's Mail.app insists on "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages" rather than "Sent" and "Trash".
We instruct our users to use the menu command Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For > commands to select our server's folders on their desktops, and on iOS to use the Settings > Mail > Account > Advanced, but this is tedious and annoying. Most users get it about half right, so that some devices use our default "Sent", and some use "Sent Messages". (This happens with Trash as well, but most users are not concerned if their Trash differs device to device.)
Is there any server setting that can hint to Mail.app that it should use "Sent" rather than "Sent Messages"?
Apple has a support document about this issue, "Mountain Lion Mail: If messages aren't stored where expected on the server" ( http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11810 ).
However, that doc (and the similar one for Snow Leopard) merely says, "When Mail stores messages on the server, it looks for specific mailboxes, by name, in which to put the messages. If Mail doesn’t find those mailboxes on the server, it tries to create them on the server or, failing that, on your Mac."
The document does not specify what the "specific mailboxes" are, and certainly does not suggest that there is any way to have it cooperate better with our server, but perhaps there is a way?
(If I was trying to be a good IMAP client, I might look for any of "Sent", "Sent Messages", or "Sent Items", and use what I found before going to the next step of creating my own folder. Hard to imagine that any IMAP account would be initially configured without some "Sent" folder, so why not try to discover what the user has before pig-headly making your own.)Unfortunately, I have not found a consise way to explain this to the general user, just a huge wall of text to work around something that Apple got wrong the first time they created an IMAP client, and has stubbornly persited with. Here's our documentation for this silly problem:
Special Folders on IMAP
The basic idea is that all IMAP mail programs keep all your mail on our server, so that, e.g. when you read or reply to a message, all of your devices can then show that message as read and replied to.
By convention, each IMAP program treats a few folders on the server as "Special", such as a "Trash" folder, that deleted messages get moved to, and a "Sent" folder, where each message you send gets copied. When they all pick the same special folders, all of your devices will show the same view of your mail. However, if different devices use different server folders for their "special" Sent folder, then the mail from these two devices will wind up in two different places, and be harder to find.
Unfortunately, Apple's Mail programs are particularly obscure and obtuse in the way they treat these folders: They show their special Sent and Trash folders on screen with the obvious names "Sent" and "Trash", but secretly, under the covers, they insist on using folders named, "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages" instead. Even if the server already has perfectly usable "Sent" and "Trash" folders, Apple clients will ignore them and create their own special case "special" folders.
If you only ever use Apple devices to look at your IMAP mail, you might never even notice their deception. But, if you sometimes use another mail client, such as webmail, you will encounter the confusing truth: When we created your account for the very first time, we add a "Sent" folder (actually named "Sent") and a Trash folder, named "Trash", and this is what everything except Apple's mail will use by default, because those folders are already their the first time the client connects to your account. However, even though Apple shows your special sent folder at the top of the list, with a paper-airplane icon, and labels it "Sent", in fact they ignore the existing "Sent" folder and make and use their own "Sent Messages."
SO, if you send some mail from webmail, it will be in your actual "Sent" folder, whereas if you send it from an Apple mail program, it will be put into your "Sent Messages" folder. If you look into either "Sent" special folder, you'll only find part of your previously sent mail.
Similarly for Trash, though most users find it more problematic to have two different Sent collections than to have multiple trash buckets.
To unify things, you can either set your non-Apple mail programs to use "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Items"; OR, you can set all of your Apple devices to use "Sent" and "Trash". Doesn't really matter which way you go, though if a majority of your devices are doing it a particular way, you should change the non-matching devices to agree with the majority.
(All clear so far? Why did Apple make this so hard? It would have been utterly simple for them to check for an existing "Sent" folder, and to use one if there is one, rather than to always stubbornly create and use a new "Sent Messages" folder. Then, they add to the problem by pretending that their new "Sent Messages" folder is really just named "Sent". Stupidity all the way down.)
Anyways, to find out what the majority of your devices are doing, check them each to see which of the "sent" folders shows up in the "normal" list of folders rather than in the "special" location, that is, what folder name is in the list at the bottom of the folder area, rather than up at the special "Sent" icon, (because the special one will always be labeled "Sent", not matter what the actual folder name is).
For example, say that on all-but-one of your mail setups, you see a "Sent Messages" folder down in the normal list, and on the other device, you see "Sent" down in the normal list.
In that case, you'd want to set the "different" device to make the folder named "Sent" be the special one, instead of the "Sent Messages" that it was currently using.
Conversely, if all but one showed "Sent" down in the regular folder area, and only one showed "Sent Messages", then you'd want to make "Sent Messages" the special folder on the odd device.
Once you have decided, see the specific sections below for the procedure to set the "special" folders for Apple's Mail.app on a Mac, Apple's Mail on an iPhone/Pad/Pod, or for RoundCube webmail, or for Thunderbird.
Once you have every device using the same sent folder, then you can move any messages from the "extra" version of the folder into your special folder, and then you can delete the extra folder. (If you delete this extra folder and it later re-appears, then it means one of your mail programs is still using it as its "special" folder, and recreating it.)
Similarly for Trash, though probably you could delete the extra trash folder without moving the files, because they are trash.
Here are the details for changing the Special Mail Folders on the systems we use:
A) iPhone, iPad, iPod:
As a first step, use Settings > Mail to set your device to read your email account, then open the Mail program so that it will read the list of all of your folders from the mail server. After that, go back to Settings > Mail to make sure it is using the desired special mailboxes on the server.
Select your IMAP account in the settings tool, and then press the button for "Advanced" settings, and find the list of special mailboxes, e.g. Sent, Trash, Drafts. For each, scroll through the list of folders on the server to choose the folder you wish to use for that function.
Note: iPhones/Pads/Pods also can be set to keep sent mail locally on the device. This is a spectacularly stupid choice for normal IMAP, as none of your other devices will be able to see the messages you send from your phone.
B) Mail.app on Mac desktops and laptops:
Set up mail so that it reads your messages and folders from the mail server.
Select the "Sent" folder that you wish to use in the list of folders at the lower left of the mail window. (On newer Macs, the folders may be hidden by default. Use the "View > Show Folder List" menu command to display them if necessary.)
Use the menu command "Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For > Sent" to specify that the selected mail box is the special folder for sent mail, and similarly for your Trash, Junk, or Drafts folders.
C) RoundCube Webmail (with the standard skin):
Login to your webmail site , and select the "Settings" icon in the upper right of the window, which has a "Gear" icon. This will display a "Settings" panel with buttons for "Preferences", "Folders", and "Identities" settings. When you first open the Settings panel, the "Section" panel shows a row of buttons for different Preferences.
Click "Special Folders" in the "Section" list to open a list of "Drafts", "Sent", "Junk", and "Trash". Each special folder is followed by a menu of all your server folders. Select the server folder to use for each special folder.
D): Thunderbird:
After you have set up your connection to your IMAP account, click "Get Mail" to fetch your existing mail and list of folders on the server.
Next, select the menu command "Options > Account Settings…" (Note that on current versions of Thunderbird, the default menu drops down from an icon of three horizontal bars, in the upper right corner of the mail window. You can use the Options command in this menu to display a menu bar at the top of the Thunderbird window if you wish. With the full menu, the menu command to access the special folders settings is "Tools > Account Settings…"
Select "Copies and Folders" in the list at the left of the Account Settings window. This panel has a section for Sent mail, Archives, Drafts, and Templates. Select "Junk Settings" in the list at left to specify the location of the Junk special folder.
For each special folder, the default choice is the the folder on the server with the "typical" name, e.g. "Sent" for sent, and "Trash" for trash. To use a different name, select the "Other:" option for the folder, and then choose the desired folder from the list of folders on the server.
Oof! That's a lot of explaining for a issue that Apple should have gotten right in the first place, or at least should have fixed in their next several tries. It would not break any existing functionality if they merely used whatever folder the server had created, and only made their own if there was none. -
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I have several folders that I moved from an old iTunes music folder into a newer one on a different HD. I just put the music into the folder, but not into iTunes. So now, I have a huge folder of music that doesn't show up in my iTunes library. I was cleaning off the HD to make room for something else, so I deleted the "old" iTunes folder with all the music in it. The music is in my new iTunes folder, but not in my iTunes program. Sorry this is so convoluted!
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Is there a way to have mac osx save files to multiple venues?
I'm writing a lot on MW word. I use a desktop, a jump drive, and i-disk. Is there a way to have either mac osx or MW word save the same file to all three sites?
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I'm writing a lot on MW word. I use a desktop, a jump drive, and i-disk. Is there a way to have either mac osx or MW word save the same file to all three sites?
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RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the samemachine
Sean,
I mean I am always connecting to the nodemgr of the 2nd environment
successfully. Only when I run the client part of the application that I know
is up, I get a response from the Name Server that it is actually the first
IP address.
I checked again. I defenitely have FORTE_NS_ADDRESS set to IP:5004, in my
case, and not the hostname. I don't have FORTE_LOCATIONS set any where. the
NS_ADDRESS for env2 has only 1 IP address associated with it. My Forte
Control Panel on the client, and hence the NS address has only one entry.
I tried going into escript like you said, and the name service still thinks
it is IP1.
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
Internet2: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 1:31 PM
To: Venkat Kodumudi; 'Sean Brown'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
machine
Hmmmm? That is a little odd! Let me rehash what I think you are saying.
You now have two environments each with their own name service with
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS set to a different IP:Port combination. For example you
are doing the steps:
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS=255.255.255.1:5000
start the nodemgr for env 1
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS=255.255.255.2:5000
start the nodemgr for env 2
Now when you start a client you are always getting the address for env 1
back from the nodemgr. I assume you actually mean the name service? Or, do
you mean you are always connecting to the nodemgr & name service for env
1?
If the first scenario is the case and you are connecting to the nodemgr
for
env 2 but getting back IP's for services listening on the card for env 1 I
would ask you what you are setting the FORTE_LOCATIONS value to before you
start each service. If you are not setting it or are using the host name
it
will register using the IP for the primary network card associated with
the
machine name and I am again assuming that this is env 1. You need to set
the FORTE_LOCATIONS variable to 255.255.255.2:0 (based on the steps above)
before starting your services.
If the second scenario is the case I would have you check what the
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS is set to before you start up the client. Once again it
must be the IP:Port combination not host:port combination if you want to
get
anything other than the primary card.
I would also suggest that you do the following. After everything is up
and
running execute the following commands:
escript -fns "ip for env1":port
findsub nameservice
showpart
What you should see is everything currently registered under the name
service. It will have the name and any "locations" (IP and port) that it
is
registered as listening on. I would look for the nodemgr and see where it
has advertised itself. I would then look for any services you expect to
be
registered there and also verify where the have advertised themselves. If
there are multiple locations listed for any one service, the client will
use
the first one in the list.
Do the same for env 2.
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 9:57 AM
To: 'Sean Brown'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
I am giving the actual IP address. and not the host name. That is why I
don't understand what is going on.
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
Internet2: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 10:53 AM
To: Venkat Kodumudi; 'Sean Brown'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
machine
Hello Venkat,
I probably should have mentioned this before. Your are correct. Forteis
doing a host lookup if you are providing a name for examplemachine1:5000.
You can bypass the host lookup by using the actual ip dot addressinstead
for example 255.255.255.255:5000. This way you are taking the name
service
out od the picture and Forte will use the address provided.
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 9:27 AM
To: 'Sean Brown'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
My requirement is that my second card serves as best case performance
testing piece. This eliminates the network completely. We went one step
ahead and created a new enviromnent for the second card. Whatever I do,
the
nodemgr is returning back the IP address of the first card, even thoughmy
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS does not have the first card in the picture any where.
I think Forte is doing a host look up and returning the first IP address
it
finds, as opposed to returning the IP address specified in theenvironment
variable FORTE_NS_ADDRESS. Is there a way to trick it?
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
Internet2: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:54 AM
To: Venkat Kodumudi
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
machine
OK, you ran into one of the issues. That is, if both addresses areknown
to
the client that is trying to contact the partition it will always usethe
first address in FORTE_LOCATIONS. This is because FORTE_LOCATIONS was
designed more as a failover mechanism. So it will always try the
first
address in the list and if it succeeds, there is no reason to move onto
the
second.
Now, the second issue is that there is currently a problem with theclient
failover to the secondary address in FORTE_LOCATIONS. If the firstentry
fails it is supposed to retry on the second entry. Instead, it
retries
the
first entry again. I know that Forte knows about this but I do nothave
a
bug number on it.
With that said, lets look at a possible solution for you. If the real
objective here is to have a back up network card available for fail
over
on
the same machine, or use one card to advertise outside your firewalland
one
to use inside, then you will have to contact Forte to determine whenthe
failover problem will be fixed. But, if the objective is to loadbalance
across the network cards you could have the environment manager listenon
both ports and then alternate your server partitions across both
cards.
For
example:
set FORTE_NS_ADDRESS=card1:5000;card2:5000 and then start up the
environment
manager
set FORTE_LOCATIONS=card1:0 (the 0 in the port causes the OS to pick a
port)
and start partition one
set FORTE_LOCATIONS=card2:0 and start partition two
and so on....
In this scenario the environment manager will be listening on bothcards
but
each server will be listening on only one of the two cards. So if a
request
comes in for partition1 it will go through card one and if it is for
partition two it will go through card two. You could assign your
partitions
to cards based on expected load.
Well, I am done. I hope this helps!
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 8:06 AM
To: 'Sean Brown'; 'John Jamison'
Cc: [email protected]; Jose Suriol
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the samemachine
Sean,
Thanks for your reply. I tried the approach. I was not very specificin
my
question. I do need the ability for server applications to listen and
server
on both the network cards.
I was succesfully able to make the nodemgr listen on both the cardsand
actually serve requests coming in from both the cards. But, followingyour
advise, I took a cautious step with FORTE_LOCATIONS. Here is what I
noticed.
I have an application that has 6 partitions in total. I used
FORTE_LOCATION
to make it listen on 1. Both the cards. 2. Swapped the IP addresses
for
both
cards for this application. 3. One card that I want it to listen on. I
tried
all approaches by exporting the locations variable for just this
application. The nodemgr recieves a request from this pc connected onthe
second card to talk to one of the partitions. The node mgr responds
with
a
proxy - with the ip address and socket number of the first card. The
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS variable looks like this:
IP1:5002;IP2:5002.
Is it possible atall to resolve my problem, without having a seperate
environment?
Thanks
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
Internet2: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 10:42 AM
To: 'John Jamison'; Venkat Kodumudi
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the
same
machine
Venkat,
Actually, it is possible for Forte to listen on more than one IP andport
combination. The first reply to your message was correct. If you
set
the
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS to contain multiple entries before starting the
name
service, it will advertise on both. For Forte servers you use the
FORTE_LOCATIONS env variable to get it to advertise on multipleip:port
combinations.
We were doing something very similar with another customer I was at
to
get
around a firewall. I will warn you that there are some issues with
FORTE_LOCATIONS that may keep that portion from working. However,
from
reading your note, it appears that all you need is for the nameservice
to
advertise and listen on multiple ports and that works fine. I justtested
it again for sanity sake and it worked. I ran my test on NT using
Forte
3G2.
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of John Jamison
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 4:51 PM
To: Venkat Kodumudi
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the samemachine
Venkat,
Technically yes this is possible, though not in Forte. A nameserver
can
only listen on one port.
To implement this scheme you will have to write a proxy service (insome
language
including perhaps forte) which listens on the well-known port on the
second card, reads requests, then forwards them to the realnameservice
(wkp on the first card), and forwards replies back. This is not
trivial, but some firewall toolkit vendors supply stub code to write
application specific proxies.
-J
Venkat Kodumudi wrote:
Folks,
Here is what we would like to do:
We want to have 2 network cards on a unix box - which means I have
2
ip
addresses, and the connection between the two is the unix box and
only
the
unix box. I have a pc connected to the 2nd network card and I want
it
to
connect to the nameserver that is listening on a well known port
on
the
first network card. We don't want to turn IP forwarding between
the
two
cards. We want Forte to address both cards to talk to clients, in
one
environment.
Can this be done? If so how?
Thanks in advance.
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
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I probably should have mentioned this before. Your are correct. Forte is
doing a host lookup if you are providing a name for example machine1:5000.
You can bypass the host lookup by using the actual ip dot address instead
for example 255.255.255.255:5000. This way you are taking the name service
out od the picture and Forte will use the address provided.
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 9:27 AM
To: 'Sean Brown'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
My requirement is that my second card serves as best case performance
testing piece. This eliminates the network completely. We went one step
ahead and created a new enviromnent for the second card. Whatever I do, the
nodemgr is returning back the IP address of the first card, even though my
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS does not have the first card in the picture any where.
I think Forte is doing a host look up and returning the first IP address it
finds, as opposed to returning the IP address specified in the environment
variable FORTE_NS_ADDRESS. Is there a way to trick it?
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
Internet2: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 9:54 AM
To: Venkat Kodumudi
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
machine
OK, you ran into one of the issues. That is, if both addresses are known
to
the client that is trying to contact the partition it will always use the
first address in FORTE_LOCATIONS. This is because FORTE_LOCATIONS was
designed more as a failover mechanism. So it will always try the first
address in the list and if it succeeds, there is no reason to move on to
the
second.
Now, the second issue is that there is currently a problem with the client
failover to the secondary address in FORTE_LOCATIONS. If the first entry
fails it is supposed to retry on the second entry. Instead, it retries
the
first entry again. I know that Forte knows about this but I do not have a
bug number on it.
With that said, lets look at a possible solution for you. If the real
objective here is to have a back up network card available for fail over
on
the same machine, or use one card to advertise outside your firewall and
one
to use inside, then you will have to contact Forte to determine when the
failover problem will be fixed. But, if the objective is to load balance
across the network cards you could have the environment manager listen on
both ports and then alternate your server partitions across both cards.
For
example:
set FORTE_NS_ADDRESS=card1:5000;card2:5000 and then start up the
environment
manager
set FORTE_LOCATIONS=card1:0 (the 0 in the port causes the OS to pick a
port)
and start partition one
set FORTE_LOCATIONS=card2:0 and start partition two
and so on....
In this scenario the environment manager will be listening on both cards
but
each server will be listening on only one of the two cards. So if a
request
comes in for partition1 it will go through card one and if it is for
partition two it will go through card two. You could assign your
partitions
to cards based on expected load.
Well, I am done. I hope this helps!
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: Venkat Kodumudi [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 8:06 AM
To: 'Sean Brown'; 'John Jamison'
Cc: [email protected]; Jose Suriol
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
Sean,
Thanks for your reply. I tried the approach. I was not very specific in
my
question. I do need the ability for server applications to listen and
server
on both the network cards.
I was succesfully able to make the nodemgr listen on both the cards and
actually serve requests coming in from both the cards. But, following your
advise, I took a cautious step with FORTE_LOCATIONS. Here is what I
noticed.
I have an application that has 6 partitions in total. I used
FORTE_LOCATION
to make it listen on 1. Both the cards. 2. Swapped the IP addresses for
both
cards for this application. 3. One card that I want it to listen on. I
tried
all approaches by exporting the locations variable for just this
application. The nodemgr recieves a request from this pc connected on the
second card to talk to one of the partitions. The node mgr responds with a
proxy - with the ip address and socket number of the first card. The
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS variable looks like this:
IP1:5002;IP2:5002.
Is it possible atall to resolve my problem, without having a seperate
environment?
Thanks
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
Internet: [email protected]
Internet2: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Brown [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 10:42 AM
To: 'John Jamison'; Venkat Kodumudi
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same
machine
Venkat,
Actually, it is possible for Forte to listen on more than one IP andport
combination. The first reply to your message was correct. If you setthe
FORTE_NS_ADDRESS to contain multiple entries before starting the name
service, it will advertise on both. For Forte servers you use the
FORTE_LOCATIONS env variable to get it to advertise on multiple ip:port
combinations.
We were doing something very similar with another customer I was at toget
around a firewall. I will warn you that there are some issues with
FORTE_LOCATIONS that may keep that portion from working. However, from
reading your note, it appears that all you need is for the name serviceto
advertise and listen on multiple ports and that works fine. I justtested
it again for sanity sake and it worked. I ran my test on NT using Forte
3G2.
Sean
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]]On</a> Behalf Of John Jamison
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 4:51 PM
To: Venkat Kodumudi
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is there a way to have 2 network cards on the same machine
Venkat,
Technically yes this is possible, though not in Forte. A name server
can
only listen on one port.
To implement this scheme you will have to write a proxy service (in some
language
including perhaps forte) which listens on the well-known port on the
second card, reads requests, then forwards them to the real nameservice
(wkp on the first card), and forwards replies back. This is not
trivial, but some firewall toolkit vendors supply stub code to write
application specific proxies.
-J
Venkat Kodumudi wrote:
Folks,
Here is what we would like to do:
We want to have 2 network cards on a unix box - which means I have 2ip
addresses, and the connection between the two is the unix box and onlythe
unix box. I have a pc connected to the 2nd network card and I want it
to
connect to the nameserver that is listening on a well known port onthe
first network card. We don't want to turn IP forwarding between thetwo
cards. We want Forte to address both cards to talk to clients, in one
environment.
Can this be done? If so how?
Thanks in advance.
Venkat Kodumudi
Price Waterhouse LLP
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