Is there an alternative to Front Row in lion?

I understand Front Row is no longer available in Lion. Is ther an appropriate alternative? I find Front Row a much better interface for playing music than iTunes, as it matches the interface on the ATV.

You are not alone with FrontRow, however if you copy the following back from your SL installation it seems to work
/System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BackRow.framework
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/iPhotoAccess.framework
/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.RemoteUI.plist
/Applications/Front Row.app
(Caveat installer - YMMV )
Regards,
Shawn

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Now that there is no more Front Row...

is there something else to replace it? We used to watch the movies on iTunes using Front Row, now my $20 remote seems uselesss...

You can get Front Row back.
Here is a guide:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/21/how-to-install-front-row-on-lion/
Basically any media player out there (VLC, MPlayerX, iTunes, Quicktime etc.) have support for the Apple Remote. You can download one of these for free, if you feel like it. (MPlayerX available through the Mac App Store)
The package for Front Row can be found here:
http://www.mac-hatter.com/blog/frontrowenablerforlion
Cheers
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Front Row in Lion. Has anyone got it working with iTunes 10.5 yet?

I've got it working with pics and movies by using the method in the link below, but not with the library in iTunes 10.5.
http://www.cultofmac.com/106874/use-front-row-in-os-x-lion-video-how-to/

Yes I know. I'm very annoyed that Apple have dropped Front Row from Lion, it removes quite a bit of functionality from my iMac. I use it a lot. I've tried Plex, but don't like it at all.

Hardware alternative to Front Row for pre-iSight G5 iMac?

Hey there, I know I've asked previously if there was a version of Front Row available for G5 iMacs that didn't come w/ the iSight built-in. Since I'm considering replacing my PC altogether with this machine (and getting a MacBook for mobile use), I'm really only missing one thing... We use the PC for pushing video out to our TV for edited TV shows or movies. We have an ATI Remote Wonder which uses a USB-connected RF remote to play, pause, skip, etc. Does such a device exist for the pre-isight model imacs? Essentially I'd like to be able to play a DVD or a movie in VLC and be able to pause, skip back, etc. without going to the machine. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
-Mike

As it turns out the Remote Wonder software for Mac did just about everything I needed it to! Anyone looking for a somewhat close match to front row (or at least remote control) should look for a used Remote Wonder RF remote - so far it's working great. (Already had it so no extra dough either!) I like this Mac more and more every day.
-Mike

Front row in Lion 10.7 issue (-70012) and video_ts not playing issue -solved

Hi all,
thought I just post my solution to the front row issues in 10.7. I looked for a solution for days, and when I found it, I thought it would make other peoples live easier if I combine everything in one post.
I actually had a couple of issues:
PROBLEM:
first front row stopped playing VIDEO_TS files in 10.6.
the second issue occurred when I thought upgrading to 10.7 would solve the issue; Front row still couldn't play the VIDEO_TS, because FRONT ROW was gone...
SYMPTOMS:
both issues always showed the same symptoms:
when a dvd-back folder was selected, front row would show a black screen, and then, caused by my frantic pushing the ESC button, front row would give me the dvd player not valid -70012 error.
CAUSE:
so what happened? I chose to buy my MBP 17" with the smallest HDD (yep sorry, was cheap-s-ing). Then later that year, I decided to buy the HDD caddy and switch my internal superdrive for a SSD. I ended up placing the original HDD in the hdd caddy, which I then put in the Superdrive's slot, and I placed the SSD in the slot where the original HDD was residing first. I now had a MBP 17" late 2011, with vertex3 SSD. I forgot, I also put in 16 GB, replacing the 8 GB.
So, when I back-upped all my favorite DVDs as VIDEO_TS files, (no I did not download dvds through usenet), grabbed the popcorn, and started Front Row, the disappointment began. No VIDEO_TS file would play, always the same -70012 error message. So after a lot of internet research I stumbled upon a guy who said: yeah, you have to upgrade to 10.7. After the upgrade my FRONT ROW was gone.
SOLUTIONS:
In 10.6:
As Apple's DVD player is always looking for the internal dvd player as a prerequisite to start, Front Row, which uses Apple's DVD player as video player, will throw up the -70012 error. 'Cause it finds the HDD in the HDD Caddy instead of the SuperDrive. So in 10.6 (and in 10.7 also) you can use the following solution:
(I got this solution partial from http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20070591-263.html)
1: modify the DVDPlayback framework that the DVD Player uses so that it will recognize external drive as a valid DVD playback device. (The HDD Caddy came with an external casing for the SuperDrive)
2: download a hex editor (I used Hexedit 220 from http://hexedit.sourceforge.net/ )
3: Go to the folder /System/Library/Frameworks/ and back up the file "DVDPlayback.framework."
4: Open Hexedit_220 and use it to open the following file:/System/Library/Frameworks/DVDPlayback.framework/Versions/A/DVDPlayback.
5: Using the editor's find&replace through COMMAND-F, replace "Internal" with the text "External" and save the file. Note that Hexedit also saves a backup automatically.
6: Close the file once saved, and then run a permissions fix on the boot drive using Disk Utility. Then restart the system and you should now be able to play DVDs off the external drive using DVD Player. That is, If you use an external dvd player (which I don't use).
7: I inserted a very small USB stick in the MBP with no data on it, and Front Row and Apple DVD Player accepted this. I could now play my backupped DVDs.
ofcourse, I still wanted to upgrade to 10.7, so here's the solution to 10.7
10.7:
upgrading was a simple click with the mouse, worked like a charm, Office still worked, and some minor updates installed through software.
Front Row however, gone...
I used the steps outlined in http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/21/front-row-for-mac-os-x-lion/ to get Front Row back:
- first get the package from Madhatter: Download the free package installer by MacHatter
- install, or customize the install
- all done.
Then I used the steps from step 3 through 7 outlined above in solution 10.6.
Catch:
So I did not find a solution to fooling the DVD Player / Front Row with the USB stick. So everytime I watch VIDEO_TS in Front Row the USB stick must be inserted. But, the good news, I can still use my remote control for something.
Hope I helped some guys out there with this solution.
Regards,
Johnno

The issue has previously hit Apple TV owners. I think people came to the conclusion that it was a HDMI handshake problem. Basically the process where the device and TV greet each other, make up some rules about communicationg and what their secret key is and so on.
I haven't tried this yet, but my local service center says that basically I can do one of two things:
- Downgrade to 10.7 and then download the 10.7.1 update from Apples website. To do this without having a Mac OS X Lion disc, you can hold down CMD + R when the computer boots to be able to access the recovery partition on newer Macs that come without the OS disc.
or..
- Put something in between the computer and TV. For example, if you're using an amplifier as a part of your home theather set up, this will probably work. The service guy said he has his Mini connected to the amplifier, which in turn is connected to speakers and a projector. The inverted colors still appear, but only once per night (i.e. after the first problem is reset by resetting the link then it's fine).
For now, I'll do my little dance of changing the source on the TV from HDMI 1 to HDMI 2 and then back again to reset the link... But, I'll probably try downgrading in a few days.

Front Row for Lion works with Movies, Photos, but not with Music!

Hi guys,
what do i do wrong? i installed front row and everything works fine, just no music. i always get the message...
FRONT ROW CANNOT FIND ANY SONGS!
so at first i thought there is something wrong with this app, but then i realized, movies and photos are working perfectly!
maybe someone has a simple solution for that problem?

Hi guys,
what do i do wrong? i installed front row and everything works fine, just no music. i always get the message...
FRONT ROW CANNOT FIND ANY SONGS!
so at first i thought there is something wrong with this app, but then i realized, movies and photos are working perfectly!
maybe someone has a simple solution for that problem?

Uninstalling Front Row on Lion

ok, I've installed front row via the Mac Hatter loader for Lion. But now I can't seem to get rid of it. Do I simply delete the files that were loaded via the loader or do I need the lion versions of those files?
it loads these:
From: http://www.mac-hatter.com/blog/frontrowenablerforlion
/System/Library/CoreServices/Front Row.app/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BackRow.framework
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/iPhotoAccess.framework
/System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.RemoteUI.plist
/Applications/Front Row.app
can I simply delete them to get front row off my computer again?
Reasons: I have XBMC which is a little better at doing what I want it to do.

I used clean my mac by macpaw to uninstall it but it didn't do it completely. even though Front Row doesn't show up in the applications folder or in spotlight, it still initiates after selecting Menu on the remote or cmd ESC.
I want to know if deleting these files mentioned above would harm my installation of lion as I didn't back up anything before doing this. you say yes but then you say, just delete it like any other app, but this is a "system app" and doesn't uninstall as easily as draggin the .app into the trash.

Where is front row in lion?

anyone know where lion moved front row to? did they eliminate it? don't tell me i need to boot up my old laptop for this presentation!

Apple considers Front Row as obsolete with with all the new features lately such as AirPlay, etc.

I recently upgraded to OS 10.7, I would like to know what happened to Front Row?

I recently upgraded to Lion & I realized Front Row isn't accesible anymore. Why? Is there an alternative?

Front Row is indeed "gone." There are alternatives, but first look at these links:
How to Install Front Row on Mac OS X Lion 10.7
Front Row Enabler for Lion - Mac-Hatter Consulting, LLC.
Get Front Row for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion
Plex - A Complete Media Solution

Front Row alternative

Hey all,
For anyone interested, Equinux has an alternative to Front Row called Media Central. Click here to download.
Jrsy

TY Jersey man.
It works nice and smoothly espc. when connected to a tv as 2nd monitor it just needs a few more channels.
Tried the http://tv4all.com/portal.htm?http://tv4all.com/television/index.html?http://tv4a ll.com/television/13.htm and there is much more and most works with VLC instead of Windows media player.

Is there any way I can browse photos on Front Row and choose the music?

Hi!
Without creating a slideshow or anything in advance, is there any way using Front Row that I can browse my photos and either keep my iTunes music playing in the background or the music I choose in Front Row?
Thanks

I am going to assume you are on Leopard, if so, as far as I understand it, under FR 2.0, this is not possible. This is the sole reason I have yet to upgrade to Leopard, hope you listening Apple!!! I only have one mac, a mini, that I use as a HTPC. Why this functionality was removed is like a Windows type decision, pointless and ridiculous.
I have a seen a lot of talk about being able to install the old version of FR, search the forums, for how to do that.
Under Tiger, it is totally do-able, as long as you ensure your default picture slideshow setting does not have pre-saved music.
Jared

Front Row Alternatives?

Any recommendations? Not unhappy with Front Row but would like TV integration (formy EyeTV DTT), better format support, weather and RSS intagration. Somthing like XBMC plus TV.
-CenterStage / Backstage
-iTheater
-MediaCentral
-mMedia
-any others??

I find the AppleTV a great alternative to Front Row. Its ability to catalog TV shows alphabetically by series title is better than Front Row, which only gives you an alphabetical list by show title. Also with AppleTV you can change the listing to be by order modified.
Of course you have to connect it to an HD-TV, but as such it really presents itself well.
MediaCentral is nice, but it isn't as forgiving of your data being an external hard drive as the AppleTV or Front Row, and can result in slow display.
The Mac Mini you almost have to have videos on an external hard drive as you are limited by the size of the 2.5" hard drive that comes with it.
Edit: Elgato has just released a Turbo H.264 external USB dongle that encodes video into AppleTV compatible format up to 4 times faster than a typical Intel Core 2 Duo machine. I'm getting one in the mail soon. Can't wait to see the speeds it gets!

Will can replace Front Row and play podcast from itunes?

One thing I did with Front Row pre-Lion that I can't do with Lion is watch video podcasts on my MacMini connected to my SDTV (no HDMI). Plex doesn't seem to have any connection to iTunes. Is there any Front Row replacement that will let me watch my video podcasts?

new2appletv, I think you missed roestuff's point. They were wanting to BUY a HD movie -- not copy it.
It's frustrating that we can live in a complete HD environment with a Mac Mini, UNTIL we start downloading from iTunes. The alternative to downloading from iTunes, is to buy the DVD or Blu-Ray, both of which are no less "copyable", than the output from the Mac Mini. As all movie/music pirates have shown over the years -- where there's a will, there's a way.
I share the frustration. I have an XServe, a Mac Pro & 3 Mini's running a home theater & TV network around my house. I can happily watch, AND RECORD, HD content from TV stations. I'm not into pirating -- it is all for my own use. Because of alleged "abuse" by some users, I can only expand to 1 further Mac on my network due to the 5 machine limit imposed by iTunes. My frustration is that the content doesn't even leave my house (except for when it is on my iPhone).
Apple need to learn to negotiate better, particularly if they want to be at the centre of a digital world. I can buy a Tivo for the same price as a Mac Mini, and a Tivo doesn't have all of the restrictions placed on it that the Macs do. I feel sometimes that Apple try to prove that they are the Volvo drivers of an online world -- but uncertain what they are trying to achieve.

How do I get Front Row to work with Lion?

Hello fellow Mac users,
How do I get Front Row to work with Lion? I have an iMac 27 inch computer and is the sole entertainment provider for my bedroom. I refuse to put a TV in my room and wanted to know how to get Front Row to work again on my mac? It seems that the upgrade to Lion erased the app.
I have quite a few movies and series that I bought off iTunes and is a shame that I can't use a media center app like Front Row on Lion.

I kind of have the opposite problem. I need to know how to turn off my remote on the computer. I am using the remote for my Apple TV and it keeps making the volume on my Computer go up and down (with annoying sounds).
There used to be a way to un-sync the remote with the comp but I cannot remember how and the Apple help is not much help! I have Lion.
Thanks!
Best,
Tony

Mountain Lion hostile to Front Row?

Mounting Lion seems hostile to Front Row, which would still work under Lion, with some persuasion.
It's all well and good to say it's been discontinued…
Why sell Mac Mini with HDMI and discontinue Front Row ? What are Apple customers expected to use?
Mounting Lion upgrade process lets Front Row application through.
Front Row doesn't even attempt to launch, as if it's being blocked deliberately.
If there a fix or terminal option to get Front Row working again, could someone please let us know. It's not like there's any Apple replacement.
Or any other company for that matter. And no, Plex is hopless, it ignores folder structure, it's useless to me. Put an alias in your Movie's folder and you can see anything you want in Front Row.
Simple, just works, just abandoned.
Off to apple.com/feedback, now.

Thanks, I'll answer the "try Plex, it's great" suggestion, only once.
I have installed Plex, but can't wait to remove it. It's too complex and dumb. Front Row is simple and flexible and doesn't require me to run a server or nominate folders separately, just to make it useable. Front Row lets me dig around folders as I create them and is generally clean/simple and all I need.
When I want Hollywood movie meta data assigned to budgie videos from YouTube, I'll be singing the praises of Plex all over the internet. If that's cataloguing, I can live without it. I have tonnes of files, they're -catalogued- into folders. Until Apple loses the plot completely and scraps the file system, I'm safe from meddling by any number of Apps (which come and go over time).
The remote seems to work OK with Plex without Buddy, better than iTunes actually. Somebody must have fixed iTunes to stop responding to the remote, as well. Charming.
Merely deleting Front Row from Lion, apparently wasn't bloody-minded enough, Mountain Lion seems to single out Front Row - gives no error when you launch it, just refuses to let it run. An awful lot of hostility to what appears to be a simple skin for QuickTime.
How much trouble would it be for Apple to Open Source Front Row and let those that want it, run it?

Is there an alternative to Front Row in lion?

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