Is there an Encore CS6 (PC) workaround to avoid H.264 blu-ray encodes becoming brighter?

There is a noticeable gamma shift when transcoding with h.264 and blacks become dark gray and pixelated. This doesn't happen when I use MPEG-2, but that isn't always an option for delivery.
Most of the time, my source material is either an Uncompressed QuickTime or a Quicktime ProResHQ. Any ideas?

Quicktime has become an industry standard and a lot of times the decision to use it for delivery happens long before it arrives in my hands. I've requested and suggested every format known to man and I still mostly get Quicktimes delivered. My experience has shown that most people making decisions at a media distribution company have very little technical knowledge and "Quicktime" is synonymous with "digital file". It's unfortunate.
That being said, are there any known workarounds when you're stuck using Quicktime movs?

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Thanks Stan,
I am not sure what you mean by your question if I resaved all files. When I resized the images I used Adobe Bridge's Photoshop image processor to bulk re-size the images, saving to a different folder than the originals. I kept the original file names (hmmm, now that I think about it, that may not have been the best choice), then replaced each image asset in Encore's project window, pointing to the file with the same name, but different folder (the preview image in the project window confirmed the reduced image sizes).
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I'm writing this as the bluray disc build is chugging away. But here's another Encore anomoly, if you have an answer-- before I decided to build the slideshow in PrPro, I tried to save the Encore project with a different filename so I could try your suggestions without corrupting the working project. The save failed twice, well into long process of copying files, returning the error code, "Access Denied". Any thoughts?
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I have a Blu-ray legal .m4v file encoded out of Adobe Media Encoder as H.264 Blu-ray VBR 2-Pass, maximum render, target 25Mbps, maximum 30Mbps.
My project is H.264, maximum 40Mbps.
Encore keeps listing the video file as untranscoded and wants to transcode it.
I've tried encoding just a portion of the video file instead of the whole thing using the same settings and when I bring this into Encore it recognizes it as Blu-ray legal and sets it to "Don't Transcode".
Can anyone think of a reason as to why this is happening? I really don't want to sit through another eight hour encode that could degregade pq further.
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If you want to jump in the deep end, here are the x264 parameters that produce BD-legal output that also make En happy:
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To work without need this exporters, the amount paid is less.
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We here love MPEG !!!!
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CS4 - Adobe Media Encoder - Encore - H.264 Blu-ray

As many folks are aware, Encore's transcoding can sometimes be less than optimal. I played with the AME settings and with the help of other folks on these and other forums finally determined all the right settings so that Encore would treat my DVD quality videos as native and not attempt to transcode them.
I am now trying my hand at Blu-Ray and am running into similar problems but so far I have not really found any answers that have worked. Based on my research, the following settings should work:
AME
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Pixel Aspect Ratio: Widescreen 16:9
Profile: High
Level: 4.1
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Max Bitrate: 22
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Fields: No Fields (Progressive Scan)
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I know there are other tools out there that can do these things, but I paid my $ for Adobe Mastersuite so that it would do all these things for me. If at all possible, I would really like to stick with just these tools.
I am not sure if it matters, but my source is a Panasonic HDC-TM700 set to record in 1080p30 (I don't use their proprietary 60 frame format). I have successfully downconverted this source with AME to DVD quality. I have also successfully outputted from AME to 1080p that was uploadable to Youtube. Again, I'm not sure that it matters other than I can make useable video from my source. Here are the properties of the video according to Premiere:
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Pixel Depth: 32
Frame Rate: 29.97
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - compressed - 6 channels
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - 6 channels
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Average Data Rate: 2.0 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
My actual clip is about 6min, but my intention would be to use clips of up to an hour in length.
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Well, that's a bit of a disappointment. I have to imagine most Adobe users are bald due to Adobe providing settings/output options that it's own software doesn't like. I really don't understand the sense of that.
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Adobe Media Encoder - Encore - H.264 Blu-ray

I just exported a Premiere Pro timeline using the Media Encoder with H.264 Blu-ray format and the 1080i 29.97 HQ preset. Presumably, you would choose this so that you do not have to transcode when you get to Encore. However, when I put my 16GB M4V file in a timeline, it wants to transcode saying it is "Untranscoded". Why? It also says the Blu-ray disc is only 11GB.
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hello,
"This bug is with only H264 VBR 2 Pass presets and if you change to VBR 1 Pass keeping evverything same, the bug should not be there."
honestly speaking, most everyone agrees that 2 pass is better quality than 1 pass
and if this issue has been happening since cs4 and we just received our first update
to cs5.5.1 for ppro, why does adobe still require us to 'lower' quality settings...
it's almost like adobe doesn't want us exporting a full quality BD...
doesn't adobe have the resources to fix this issue already?
unless there is an acceptable answer, then shouldn't this be unacceptable...?
this is almost like saying, "yeah the full hd presets don't work, but if you use the standard def presets, you should be okay..."
especially if other authoring programs can do 2pass BD discs...
is there an acceptable answer as to why this issue hasn't been fixed?
is there any plans to update encore?
thanks,
jeffrey

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EdwurdAdam wrote:
Hi,
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Either way it shouldn't make the build not work.
I assume that it could make the build not work, particularly if the problem is the menu as you stated.
See this for menu duration and timing issues.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/encore/cs/using/WSF49EA5DB-3743-49c2-9831-F66328B192F8.html#WS AC740C6D-83DE-489e-8B15-5A816A3019C7
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the build stops while rendering a menu now.
What happens if you use the "Render Motion Menu" option.
Edit: File -> Render -> Motion Menus.

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