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I was in discussion with a colleague who says there is a company in China offering online (hot) backups of Oracle 8 and 9 databases that are NOT in archivelog mode!
Anybody go any ideas HOW you could backup a running live database that was not in archivelog mode and do it consistently ? Some type of tracking changed blocks, rowids? I just dont think it is possible, anybody got any good ideas?
(I dont want to get in a discussion about WHY a company would want to backup a live database that wasn't in archivelog mode. Seems a crazy to me, but customer is always right huh...even when they are wrong or stupid I suppose.)

hye man, online backup is not restricted to Archivelog/ Noarchivelog. Youcan take online backup in both the modes. What is meant by online backup??
Then what is a significance offline backups , when both serve the same purpose.Darshan you must know the fundamental, you can not take online backups, if your db is not not running in archive log mode. it has to be placed in archive log mode in order to take backups while the db is up and running.
Online backups does not suppose to be a consistent backups , because you may find diffrent scn's of datafiles headers, oracle can not open the database , until all the changes recorded in redologfiles saves back to datafile.
If your database must be up and running 24 hors a day 7 days a week, then you have no choice but to perform online backups of whole database which is running in ARCHIVELOG mode.
hare krishna
Alok

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