Is undeploying "dangerous"?

Hi @all,
I want to undeploy two files (SAPXIAFC12P,SAPXICONS12) because a have a version conflict.
Is this action dangerous for my sap-system?
Thanks for your help.
Regards.
Stefan Zeller

Hi Stefan.
What do you mean with "dangerous"?
If you undeploy SAPXIAFC12P your adapter framework will not work. It means that if you use XI you'll be not able to process any messages. But your R/3 system will not crash.
If you want to undeploy it just to deploy another version (or the same one) later on, then it is relativelly dangerous if your pipeline is still working. The message that is already processing in XI will have no chance to be sent somewhere, because RFC adapter, HTTP adapter, JDBC adapter, File adapter and other stuff are in this SCA that you are going to undeploy. But still you can undeploy it (later on you'll see an error in message monitor and if you deploy this SCA again you can reprocess fault messages again).
But anyway if you have version conflict it is always suspicious. You must have all SCAs of XI installation of the same SP version.
Best regards,
Dmitry Yankovsky

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5) Go back to my previous BB Bold (Hmm, this is really not a bad choice)
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I am a new bie to OIM 11g.
I have created a simple batch file with the commands for deploying/Undeploying/Disbaling/Enabling the SOA composites. I am trying to deploy/Undeploy/Disbale/Enable the SOA composites using the batch file. Following is the batch file that is created.
ECHO Disabling the SOA composite
call ant -f D:\Oracle\Middleware\Oracle_IDM1\server\workflows\registration\registerworkflows-mp.xml disable
PAUSE
call ant -f d:\Oracle\Middleware\Oracle_SOA1\bin\ant-sca-deploy.xml undeploy
PAUSE
call ant -f d:\Oracle\Middleware\Oracle_SOA1\bin\ant-sca-deploy.xml
PAUSE
call ant -f D:\Oracle\Middleware\Oracle_IDM1\server\workflows\registration\registerworkflows-mp.xml enable
Disable and enable are working fine. But for undeploy and deploy I am getting the following error.
"d:\Oracle\Middleware\Oracle_SOA1\bin\ant-sca-deploy.xml:78: taskdef class oracle.integration.platform.blocks.deploy.servlet.client.ant.DeployComposite not found"
Please suggest what needs to be done to resolve this issue as this is very urgent.Thanks in advance for your help.
Thanks,
PT

Hi All,
The error found while deploying/Undeploying the composite is "d:\Oracle\Middleware\Oracle_SOA1\bin\ant-sca-deploy.xml:78: taskdef class oracle.integration.platform.blocks.deploy.servlet.client.ant.DeployCompositeTask not found".
Please help me in resolving this issue.
Thanks,
PT

Problem Undeploying a PAR file

Hi,
Let me first give the history of this problem.
I wrote a small portal application and created a par file named RoyaltiesService.par and tried to deploy it from NWDS, but NWDS got stuck and i was not able to deploy the par file. I also realised that my portal server stopped and my efforts to start the server have gone in vain. Please see the details of that problem at <Re: Problem with protal server>
So after trying to solve the problem for few days I reformatted my machine and reinstalled the portal now. I was able to deploy other par files and everthing worked fine, but now I tried to deploy the same par file RoyaltiesService.par (the one that i tried to deploy when the problem occurred for the first time) and the same problem reoccurred i.e., my NWDS got stuck, portal server stopped and i am unable to start it. I am wondering whether my par file has something to do with this. I thought of undeploying the par file from the SDM console but i am not able to find that RoyaltiesService.par file. Then i did a search for the par file in my c:usrsap and found the following results. (File/Folder name - location)
-> RoyaltiesService - C:usrsapJ2EJC00j2eeclusterserver0appssap.comirjservlet_jspirj
ootWEB-INFportalportalapps
-> RoyaltiesService.revision - C:usrsapJ2EJC00j2eeclusterserver0appssap.comirjservlet_jspirj
ootWEB-INFportalsystem
evisions
-> RoyaltiesService.par.bak - C:usrsapJ2EJC00j2eeclusterserver0appssap.comirjservlet_jspirj
ootWEB-INFdeployment emp
-> RoyaltiesServiceapi.jar - C:usrsapJ2EJC00j2eeclusterserver0appssap.comirjservlet_jspirj
ootWEB-INFportalportalappsRoyaltiesServicelib
-> RoyaltiesServicecore.jar - C:usrsapJ2EJC00j2eeclusterserver0appssap.comirjservlet_jspirj
ootWEB-INFportalportalappsRoyaltiesServiceprivatelib
Now i want to remove this par file from the deployment. Can anyone suggest me how to do it ??
Any help will be very very helpful to me.
Thanks & Regards,
Sudhir

Hi,
You cannot remove from the file system, because the application is deployed to the PCD (Application Repository), which then replicates the application to all the cluster nodes.
You have to use the Archive Remover tool. Did you try?
Even if you cannot get the portal interface, if you can log in and create a session, you can navigate to the archive remove and remove the application.
Hope this helps.
Daniel

Is undeploying "dangerous"?

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