ISR VS Processes and Forms

Hey guys, i have a few questions.. I have been developing an ISR for a little while now but i keep running into issues with the fact that it does not seem to be very complete compared to Processes and Forms. It also seems that nobody really knows ISR's that well so help is hard to find.
I.e. Processes and forms seems to have LOTS of default workflow tasks to do things like, edit forms, get data into workflow, Send the form back to the requester, etc.. but NONE of these exist for ISR's. Even the Back to Author functionality does not work correctly.
My build: an interactive form for Vendor Creation/Change/Block. It has a fairly detailed workflow that involves a few lvls of approvals and options to change or send the form back to the submitter.
So here is my question:
1) does anyone actually use ISR's?
2) Should i just drop building an ISR and move everything over to an HRASR?
3) Has anyone use HRASR's to implement NON Hr related stuff? i.e. using a generic service to do the updates?
-Jason

can you check the steps in note 1631412

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Currently we are working on ESS/MSS from NW 7.3 portal.
When i open HCM Processes and Forms Overview from MSS, it prompt me to change the password again and again.
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Error Code: ICF-IE-http -c: 350 -u: ISHAJI -l: E -s: BEQ -i: MUMSAP02_BEQ_00 -w: 8 -d: 20130514 -t: 133514 -v: RABAX_STATE -e: UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION -X: D4AE5218F8121ED2AF8DA00F61FBEAC0_D4AE5218F8121ED2AF8DA00F5D19EAC0_1 -x: 006DBCE20F7BF1E58AC0D4AE5218F812
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Please suggest me the solution.
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I reset the password of backend user and gave sap_all and sap_new role.
Last time it prompt the screen in mss as to change the password. (See above screen shot).
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The URL call http://<host name>:1080/sap/bc/webdynpro/sap/asr_pa_pd_processes_display was terminated because of an error.
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Error Code: ICF-IE-http -c: 350 -u: IKHASU -l: E -s: BEQ -i: MUMSAP02_BEQ_00 -w: 7 -d: 20130514 -t: 175940 -v: RABAX_STATE -e: UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION -X: D4AE5218F8121ED2AF923E065A39EAC0_D4AE5218F8121ED2AF923E394271EAC0_1 -x: F091BCE2D132F1D58AC0D4AE5218F812
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Procedure
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The problem was that in a change of position for a new created position or even for an existing position there was a need for access to the default position OBJID='99999999'. That's why when you give authorization for object OTYPE=' ' and OBJID = ' ' you will not get an error, because it gives authorization for all objects, witch defeats the purpose of security.
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I hope it was clear, sorry if it was not, truth be told it was a long time since I finish that project.
If you need anymore help just let me know.
Regards,
Diogo Silva.

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