Issue in mapping Operation subcontracting scenario

Hi all,
I will explain my scenario of subcontracting, i am getting issue when mapping the scenario in SAP.
Scenario: For manufasturing 1 SF my client require 4 operations. All the raw materials required will be issued in the first operation. After first operation he will send the product manufactured to outside vendor and again he receives it after some value additiion. He continues the next two steps and finally manufactures SF which inturn will be used to manufacture his FG.
Configuration: I have assigned a purchase info record in the operation detail. I have not given any WC to that operation because the cost should be captured only from the purchase order during the GR from vendor. After the confirmation of the first operation i am getting a purchase requisition for operation without a material.
Issue: I am not able to show the material which he is sending to the vendor as my purchase requisition doesnot contain any materials.
Please suggest me any possible solution to outcome this scenario.
Thanx in advance
Regards,
Krishna Chandra

Hi all,
i got my the answer for my scenario by this link
http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1805266
Regards,
Krishna Chandra

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Dear Gurus,
How to map operation subcontracting in a process order.
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How can i map this process .
Thanking you in advance
Regards
Ram

Hi,
have you tried external operations in receipe. There you need to maintain all the procurement realted data for that particular operations that is done outside, and system creates PR for every process order that you release. However the material goes and comes in without any material number (as WIP).
If you want to have more control, create a part number before SC operations and afer SCoperations and then use subcontracting process in procurement.
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Create a Contract and then create a Subcontracting PO with reference to contract ( for a year )and assign the Component to be sent( Mostly Dummy Material)
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& IN OPL8, Production order dependent parameter : Set The dependent reqmt/.reservation - Never, in General valid setting tab, this will restrict to create a PR while releasing Production order.
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Can anyone explain in Detail about the Process flow of Operations Subcontracting scenario ?
Also let me know the customizing settings that need to be maintained to map the process in SAP.
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HI Vijay,
Follow step by step procedure for Operations subcontracting:
Subcontracting: Operation Wise:
10, 20 & 30 total 3 operations. 10& 30 are internal, i.e., in-house and Operation 20 is External i.e. sending material for external processing u2013 subcontracting
The control key PP02 meant for external processing is to be allocated to the operation 20 in the routing.
Once you allocate PP02, in the operation detail screen Activate Subcontracting, then system will ask for the Purchase info record no.
(Create Purchase Info Record TC: ME11, Give Details of Vendor, Purchase Organization, Plant and Select Subcontracting Press ENTER, maintain the required data)
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Go to operation overview in the prod order, choose operation 20 & double click.
Get the Purchase Requisition number from the external processing tab. Then convert into Purchase Order. (Using TC: ME58)
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Operation subcontracting in REM

Hi Experts,
Can we map operation subcontracting in REM. please help me out in mapping this as i know that we cant do in REM, But client is asking to do that.
I m working with MTS REM. Please help.
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Kumar

Hi,
Check the following :
1. REM profile in Material master MRP4 view.
2. Control key in the routing/rate routing.
Both must match i.e if U have specified reporting point in the REM profile & not done so in the control key or vice versa, this error will appear.
The milestone is defined in the control key in the routing. Go to the operations tab in routing. Click on the control key field. U will find a host of std control keys.
Click on any std. control key say PP01.
Click on "detailed information".
In that U will see a field "confirmation". There U will find '1' - Milestone confirmation. This is another name for reporting point confirmation.
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Scenario:
I am working with Make to order scenario. In this scenario, the client is sending 2 raw materials to the vendor and the vendor is adding 2 more raw materials and assembles all the RM's to manufacture semi finished product. After that, our client will do GR for that semi finished and use that SFG for finished goods production. I will run MRP against sales order in MD50 so that all the raw materials procured will come under special stock.
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Hello,
You can use operation subcontracting.
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http://www.sap-img.com/production/two-types-of-subcontracting-relevant-for-pp.htm
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Please follow below.
1. In Routing assign PP02 control key for second operation.
2. It will create PR while order release.
3.Create PO for wrt PR with item cat " L"and do Component Posting to vendor wrt PO(MB1B-541)
4.DO GR for that PO movement 101
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check below transactions
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8. - Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
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Hi all
our clients requires different scenario how would we map these into the SAP
1-We send the material to Sub contracting Vendor for Machining operation suppose 100 piece. but Vendor make the some pieces faulty (Rejection) like 10 piece.
2- by default vendor send some pieces without doing any machining operation.like 5 piece out of 100
3- Some times we issues material defect pieces to subcontracting vendor by default
4- Component we have already received but some of them are get reject on production line but component can be rectify and for rectification we send the component back to Vendor for precessing without paying anything to vendor for this rectification
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Edited by: JAM SAP on Feb 10, 2008 4:23 PM

Dear Jam as far as my knowledge is concerned you can refer the Subcontract Scenario mentioned below :
1) 100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and in Quality 10 Pcs gets rejected 90 is accepted
In this scenario -if you are having quality check then material will be in blocked stock in quality rejection,and the material can be sent to scrap(or Rejection) stores but if you dont have quality check in that case when GRN of subcontracting PO is done for that you can do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
2)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing
In this scenario-you can simply do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the Rawmaterial (which was sent to vendor for processing) stores during that movement.
3)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,out of which 10 pcs of RM which was sent for processing is defective GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing which are defective from our side back.
In this scenario-you can do 542 movement of the raw material-defective pcs which was sent to vendor ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
4)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and 100 pcs is accepted but during processing it is found that the component which is in WIP which was received from subcontractor 10 pcs are not machined properly so it has to be reworked and to be sent back to subcontracting vendor for
reprocessing and this processing should be w/o charges.
Well in this case the WIP component which is found that it is not m/ced properly can be taken back into stock with 502 movement -T code-MB1C or it material to material transfer can be done ...i.e from WIP stock i am doing RM stock with 309 movement ,T Code-MB1A so that my original RM can be in stock and i can send this RM or WIP item to the vendor for reworking.
For this you will have to make a subcontracting PO of the 10 Pcs which has to be reworked with Free Item to be ticked in PO(Because you dont want the charge of processing to be given to vendor). You will be doing the 541 movement so that in system it will show that stocks are lying with vendor , Create Challan ,
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PR to PO conversion in operation subcontracting

Dear friends,
We are trying this scenario of operation subcontracting.
I have a semi - finish material SM01 on which i m carrying 5 operations. The 20th operation is sub contracting. I do not want to maintain a separate material for this operation. I have done all the necessary settings which are required. I m also getting a PR when a Production order is generated for operation 20.
Now the problem is when i go to convert this PR to PO in ME58 the system gives me an error, "Not possible to determine any components".
I do not understand where i have gone wrong.
The PR document type that is created is NB.
The PO does not take any material even if I try to maintain one.
What can be the possible solution.
Thanking all you for your kind assistance.

Hi pankaj
The concept is like that. You need to send a material out with gate pass to the vendor for that particular P.O.
You might have issued the material from stock for the previous operation so that you will not have a component for that operation. There may be two options.
Options 1) Create a dummy material with MRP type ND so that the planning will not happen and no plan order. keep stock through a movement type update. Allocate this component to the operation in your routing. If the external operations is pre defined.
Option 2 ) Create a dummy material with MRP type ND so that the planning will not happen and no plan order. keep stock through a movement type update. Include this component in P.O while converting from PR. If the external operations is not pre defined.
The component will now appear in ME 2O
Hope this is clear
Regards
J . Saravan

Please help with subcontracting scenario............

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Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
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You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
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SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
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4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
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You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
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If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
Hope this is helpful.
Regards
Ravi

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Hello SAP Experts,
i am doing operation subcontractiing. My first operation is subcontracted. So, I have assigned PP02 control key to first operation and maintained external processing data for opration in routing. When i saved the order, for that operation PR gets generated.
Now, I converted PR into PO and assigned raw material that has to be send to vendor. By 541 mvt. type material is issued to vendor. When i do goods receipt in MIGO, system is not showing storage location field. I dont find material in stock anywhere.
But i can see quantity received in external processing tab of first operation in routing overveiw in order.HERE P.O is generated with reference to order.& it is in cost center.while confirming the second operation system will ask for storage location of material received from vendor.it ie not seen in mmbe.iam creating new code and it is assigned to second operation .
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When you say operation subcontracting, in SAP it is considered as a service you are recieving and hence there is no material movement involved in that because you are sending a WIP material and recieving a WIP material back. But as per indian requirements whenever a material is sent out side the factory premises, you need to send a challan alongwith that. To print a challan you need to have a material movement. This movement (541) happens in normal material subcontracting but not in operation subcontracting. To generate a material doc, you can send the raw material with 541 movement but on GR of the processed material just reverse that movement so that raw material will again come in the stock. Then issue that raw material on order with 261 movement.
I hope this will help in resolving your problem.
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In subcontarcting PO scenario please explain me the following.
I am sending x kg of material A to SC Vendor .
I am expecting y kg of Material B from SC vendor.
By product in the procedure is C.
I have maintained BOM as A material to be send A, finished assebly is B and byproducts C in cs01.
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2. Found that actual consumption was less than expected in BOM, So i want reverse those extra parts i sent to SC vendor.( How to reverse them and using which Movement type)
3. After completion of process i want to do GR for the Finished product XX.(How to do GR and Movement type envolved)
4.In last stage i want to recieve the by-products from the vendor.( Movement type)
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HI All,
Can anybody help me regarding subcontracting. Any help would be much appreciated.
Talking about subcontracting, right now we are facing some issues.We have right now what we call dismantle subcontracting,
Scenario 1:
Normally we send material A,B,C to vendor 1 for subcontract and receive material D.now on vice versa, we want to send material A, to Vendor 1 to receive material B,C and D.
while Material B,C,D will remain in vendor site after dismantle process is done.
I know, i can input one of the subcomponent say : A in PO as a parent component then put rest of others as a subcomponent with addition negative quantity for material D.
but the problem is , a lot of subcomponent for dismantle is involved and the customer is minded if they have to put a lot of subcomponent every time they create PO(while this PO subcontract may vary every time).Any other way for resolved this objection.
thank you,
Regards,
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