Issue with Gaussian Blur and Spot Colors

Wondering if anyone has a solution to this issue.
Setup: We are using CS4 + CS5 Illustrator on Mac OS 10.5.X and 10.6.X
We created a spot color radial gradient filled circle over a background of the same spot color. The gradient went from 100% of the color down to 2%. We then applied a gaussian blur set to 50 pixels so that we had a nice smooth transition from the circle blurring outwards over the background with the blur blending into the spot color background.
The problem arises when we select "Retain Spot Colors" on the blur. It fills the gradient circle with 100% solid color (but at the 2% range of the gradient so it appears white) and deletes the blur effect. If we don't select "Retain Spot Colors", it converts the blur to process and we get a banding on our printouts where the spot background and CMYK gaussian meet.
We tried the gaussian blur set at 5 pixels all the way up to 55 in 10 pixel increments but nothing worked. We tried different spot colors, same issue. We know we can do the background in Photoshop and import it into Illustrator as a workaround, but we are constantly editing and changing files and would like to keep everything in Illustrator.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to solve this or if there is even a solution. We have not tried Illustrator 5.5 and do not want to invest the money in the upgrade yet. We would prefer to stay with both CS4 and CS5.
Thank you for any input.

Hi Mike,
Okay, I have some new information that changes things. I misunderstood what the issue was from the designer. My apologies in advance for the confusion. There are actually two issues but they are somewhat related.
Issue 1:
We are concerned with banding on the outside of a spot color gradient with a gaussian blur over a patterned background of the same spot color.  We do not  know if this is becasue of the number of pixels on the blur, the version of Illustrator, the blending of the blur into the patterned background, etc... While the banding looks slight on screen it is more pronounced when printed. There are many variables and we have tried everything we can think of to create a smooth transition but we keep getting some banding.
The first image shows what happens when the Preserve Spot Colors in the Raster Effects Settings (found under the Effect menu) is unchecked. We believe that the spot color is being treated as CMYK and causing the blur to be a slightly different color than the spot color background thus causing the banding.
The second image shows what happens when we select Preserve Spot Colors. We lose the blur.
The third image is what we are trying to achieve over a over a patterned background of the same spot color. This was achieved with the Preserve Spot Colors unchecked and also unchecking Overprint Preview in the Separations Preview Palette. However, this brings us right back to the issue with the Preserve Spot Color being unchecked.
Issue 2:
The issue is that we want to print a spot color gradient with a gaussian blur (over 50 pixels). In order to preview the blur effect correctly we have to uncheck the Preserve Spot Colors in the Raster Effects Settings (found under the Effect menu). However, we have recently found out that this will not work with the software our printers use to do separations. If we check the Preserve Spot Color for the separator, it turns the blur into a large square of color (see screensnap below). We have played around with the Add: x Around Object setting in Raster Effects but it has not helped.
3. If we do not select "Preserve Spot Color", the blur looks correct but it is no longer a spot color but CMYK when separated.
I hope that isn't too confusing and makes sense. Again, apologies for the mixup on my part originally. Thanks again for any help.

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    Is there a workaround for this? Here is my script function for doing this. file=filename minus extension. Rating is a number for the desired rating. lab is a number for the level of Label I wish to set. Everything works great except that I can't set both Rating and Label with the script as shown. In this instance, only the Ratings will show up in Bridge after running the script. If I move the x.label=Label line under the x.rating=Rating line, then the ratings only show for those images with no label (lab=0). Any image that gets a label receives no rating.
    If you're going to test this, you may want to comment out the Collections part. That's the part within the "switch(Number(Rating))" block.
    function setRating(file,Rating,lab) {
        try{
            cr=File(file+"CR2");
            psd=File(file+"psd");
            jpg=File(file+"jpg");
            tif=File(file+"tif");
            switch(lab) {
                case 0: Label = ""; break;
                case 1: Label = "Select"; break;
                case 2: Label = "Second"; break;
                case 3: Label = "Approved"; break;
            if (cr.created) {
                var c=new Thumbnail(cr);
                c.label=Label;
                c.rating=Rating;
                if (psd.created) {
                    p=new Thumbnail(psd);
                    p.label=Label;
                    p.rating=Rating;
                    if (jpg.created) {
                        var j=new Thumbnail(jpg);
                        j.label=Label;
                        j.rating=Rating;
                        Rating=0;
                    else addFile=psd;
                else addFile=cr;
            switch(Number(Rating)){
                case 0 : break; /* No Rating */
                case 1 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(OneStar,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(OneStar,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 2 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(TwoStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(TwoStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 3 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(ThreeStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(ThreeStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 4 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(FourStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(FourStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 5 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(FiveStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(FiveStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                default : break;
        }catch(e){
              alert(e);
              return -1;

    Afew errors to start with, you were not creating a proper file as there wasn't a fullstop in the filename.
    If a CR2 file didn't exist no other file was looked for, you were using "created" and should have been "exists"
    This now labels and rates....
    setRating("/C/Test Area/NEF/z",2,1);
    function setRating(file,Rating,lab) {
        try{
            cr=File(file+".CR2");
            psd=File(file+".psd");
            jpg=File(file+".jpg");
            tif=File(file+".tif");
            switch(Number(lab)) {
                case 0: Label = ""; break;
                case 1: Label = "Select"; break;
                case 2: Label = "Second"; break;
                case 3: Label = "Approved"; break;
            if (cr.exists) {
                var c=new Thumbnail(cr);
                c.label=Label;
                c.rating=Rating;
                if (psd.exists) {
                    p=new Thumbnail(psd);
                    p.label=Label;
                    p.rating=Rating;
                    if (jpg.exists) {
                        var j=new Thumbnail(jpg);
                        j.label=Label;
                        j.rating=Rating;
                        Rating=0;
            switch(Number(Rating)){
                case 0 : break;
                case 1 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(OneStar,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(OneStar,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 2 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(TwoStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(TwoStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 3 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(ThreeStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(ThreeStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 4 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(FourStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(FourStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                case 5 : if(!app.isCollectionMember(FiveStars,new Thumbnail(addFile))) app.addCollectionMember(FiveStars,new Thumbnail(addFile)); break;
                default : break;
        }catch(e){
              alert(e);
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  • Issue with recursive join and filter records

    I am having an issue with recursive join and filtering records for the following rules. The table, sample records, test script and rules are as below
    drop table PC_COVKEY_PD;
    create table PC_COVKEY_PD (
    PC_COVKEY varchar(50),
    COVERAGE_NUMBER varchar(3),
    SEQUENCE_ALPHA  varchar(3),
    TRANSACTION_TYPE varchar(3),
    COV_CHG_EFF_DATE date,
    TIMESTAMP_ENTERED timestamp
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    commit;
    Insert into PC_COVKEY_PD values ('10020335P8017MT0010012','001','001','02',to_date('01/FEB/2010','DD/MON/RRRR'),to_timestamp('02/JAN/2010 01:55:59.990216 AM','DD/MON/RRRR HH12:MI:SS.FF6 AM'));
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    Insert into PC_COVKEY_PD values ('10020335P8017MT0010042','001','004','03',to_date('21/JAN/2011','DD/MON/RRRR'),to_timestamp('21/JAN/2011 04:00:31.719444 PM','DD/MON/RRRR HH12:MI:SS.FF6 AM'));
    Insert into PC_COVKEY_PD values ('10020335P8017MT0050022','005','002','03',to_date('21/JAN/2011','DD/MON/RRRR'),to_timestamp('21/JAN/2011 04:02:48.953594 PM','DD/MON/RRRR HH12:MI:SS.FF6 AM'));
    commit;
    --select * from PC_COVKEY_PD order by COV_CHG_EFF_DATE,TIMESTAMP_ENTERED;
    PC_COVKEY          COVERAGE_NUMBER     SEQUENCE_ALPHA     TRANSACTION_TYPE     COV_CHG_EFF_DATE     TIMESTAMP_ENTERED
    10020335P8017MT0010012          001     001                  02                          01/FEB/2010            02/JAN/2010 01:55:59.990216 AM
    10020335P8017MT0050012          005     001                  02                      01/FEB/2010            02/JAN/2010 01:56:00.268099 AM
    10020335P8017MT0010032          001     003                  03                      14/JAN/2011            14/JAN/2011 04:25:19.018217 PM
    10020335P8017MT0010042          001     004                  03                      21/JAN/2011            21/JAN/2011 04:00:31.719444 PM
    10020335P8017MT0050022          005     002                  03                      21/JAN/2011             21/JAN/2011 04:02:48.953594 PM
    */Rule;
    Every PC_COVKEY, query should recursively join and generate set of records depending on latest SEQUENCE_ALPHA for the coverage number at that point of time. For ex,
    for 10020335P8017MT0010042 (4 row) should generate 2 records
    1. 10020335P8017MT0010042001004 (PC_COVKEY || COVERAGE_NUMBER || latest SEQUENCE_ALPHA--004 for cover 001), SEQUENCE_ALPHA 001 for cover 001 is not the latest for 10020335P8017MT0010042.
    2. 10020335P8017MT0010042005001 (coverage number 005, and latest sequence alpha-001 for cover 005).
    SEQUENCE_ALPHA 002 for cover 005 is not the latest for 10020335P8017MT0010042 as it happened later stage.
    for 10020335P8017MT0050022 (5 row) should generate 2 records as
    1. 10020335P8017MT0050022001004 (PC_COVKEY || COVERAGE_NUMBER || latest SEQUENCE_ALPHA--004 for cover 001),
    2. 10020335P8017MT0010042005002 (coverage number 005, and latest sequence alpha-002 for cover 005)
    WITH SNAPSHOT_CVR_CTP as (
    SELECT pcd1.PC_COVKEY,
           pcd1.PC_COVKEY||pcd2.COVERAGE_NUMBER||pcd2.SEQUENCE_ALPHA as cov_key,
           pcd2.COVERAGE_NUMBER,
           pcd2.SEQUENCE_ALPHA,
           pcd2.COVERAGE_NUMBER||pcd2.SEQUENCE_ALPHA as CVRSEQ,
           max(pcd2.COVERAGE_NUMBER||pcd2.SEQUENCE_ALPHA) over (partition by pcd1.PC_COVKEY, pcd1.COVERAGE_NUMBER
           order by pcd2.COV_CHG_EFF_DATE, pcd2.TIMESTAMP_ENTERED) as MaxSeq,
           pcd2.COV_CHG_EFF_DATE,     
           pcd2.TIMESTAMP_ENTERED
    FROM
    PC_COVKEY_PD pcd1,
    PC_COVKEY_PD pcd2
    select * from SNAPSHOT_CVR_CTP SC
    WHERE sc.PC_COVKEY = '10020335P8017MT0010042'  -- 4 row
    --AND  COVERAGE_NUMBER||SC.MAXSEQ = COVERAGE_NUMBER||SEQUENCE_ALPHA
    ORDER BY TIMESTAMP_ENTERED
    PC_COVKEY     COV_KEY     COVERAGE_NUMBER     SEQUENCE_ALPHA     CVRSEQ          MAXSEQ     COV_CHG_EFF_DATE     TIMESTAMP_ENTERED
    10020335P8017MT0010042     10020335P8017MT0010042001001     001     001     001001     001001     01/FEB/2010     02/JAN/2010 01:55:59.990216 AM
    10020335P8017MT0010042     10020335P8017MT0010042005001     005     001     005001     005001     01/FEB/2010     02/JAN/2010 01:56:00.268099 AM
    10020335P8017MT0010042     10020335P8017MT0010042001003     001     003     001003     005001     14/JAN/2011     14/JAN/2011 04:25:19.018217 PM
    10020335P8017MT0010042     10020335P8017MT0010042001004     001     004     001004     005001     21/JAN/2011     21/JAN/2011 04:00:31.719444 PM
    10020335P8017MT0010042     10020335P8017MT0010042005002     005     002     005002     005002     21/JAN/2011     21/JAN/2011 04:02:48.953594 PM
    I am trying to filter row using MAXSEQ but at the moment MAXSEQ values are not coming as expected. I expect following value for COV_KEY combination
    COV_KEY                                         MAXSEQ
    10020335P8017MT0010042001001     001004
    10020335P8017MT0010042005001     005001 -- match
    10020335P8017MT0010042001003     001004
    10020335P8017MT0010042001004     001004 -- match
    10020335P8017MT0010042005002     005001Would appreciate if anyone can get MAxSEQ as expected.

    Something like..
    with dist_cov_numbers as
      select distinct coverage_number cov_number
      from PC_COVKEY_PD
    all_data as
      select pcd.*,d.cov_number new_coverage_number,
             max(decode(coverage_number,d.cov_number,sequence_alpha))
                  over( partition by d.cov_number
                        order by COV_CHG_EFF_DATE,TIMESTAMP_ENTERED
                                  ) max_seq
      from PC_COVKEY_PD pcd,dist_cov_numbers d
    select pc_covkey,pc_covkey||new_coverage_number||max_seq new_key,
           pc_covkey||coverage_number||sequence_alpha actual_key
    from all_data
    order by COV_CHG_EFF_DATE, TIMESTAMP_ENTERED;
    PC_COVKEY                   NEW_KEY                           ACTUAL_KEY                     
    10020335P8017MT0010012      10020335P8017MT0010012001001      10020335P8017MT0010012001001     
    10020335P8017MT0010012      10020335P8017MT0010012005         10020335P8017MT0010012001001     
    10020335P8017MT0050012      10020335P8017MT0050012001001      10020335P8017MT0050012005001     
    10020335P8017MT0050012      10020335P8017MT0050012005001      10020335P8017MT0050012005001     
    10020335P8017MT0010032      10020335P8017MT0010032001003      10020335P8017MT0010032001003     
    10020335P8017MT0010032      10020335P8017MT0010032005001      10020335P8017MT0010032001003     
    10020335P8017MT0010042      10020335P8017MT0010042005001      10020335P8017MT0010042001004     
    10020335P8017MT0010042      10020335P8017MT0010042001004      10020335P8017MT0010042001004     
    10020335P8017MT0050022      10020335P8017MT0050022005002      10020335P8017MT0050022005002     
    10020335P8017MT0050022      10020335P8017MT0050022001004      10020335P8017MT0050022005002 
    10 rows selected Edited by: jeneesh on Nov 22, 2012 10:54 AM

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