Issue with rendering ProRes back to Premiere

I'm rebuilding my workflow since upgrading to CS 6, and am running into a problem with the files generated by Speedgrade. Running on MBP with most up-to-date software (Adobe + Apple), ProRes codecs installed via Apple Compressor.
The workflow I'm trying to make work is: Shoot on Sony EX3, ingest media via Prelude and Transcode to ProRes 422 LT. Grade dailies in SG, export as individual clips to ProRes 422, import into PR for editing, export EDL, back to SG for final grading, back to PR for audio and final render.
It's all good until I render the dailies from SG. It generates the files and I import them into PR. The clips import fine, but when scrubbing through the image freezes up in PR, both in source monitor and program monitor. When I import the transcoded files (pre-SG) of the footage, they work just fine. So it's not the footage, and it's not the codecs since they were used for the transcoding as well. It must be something in how the output settings in SG and the codec interact.
I set the filename to src.filename.graded to get individual files, and I noticed that if I look at the files in Finder, the video duration is bogus. They all have the same duration and longer than the actual clip. Have to check, but may be the duration of the in/out points of the export, rather than the source clip.
If I render the entire grade as a single intermediate file it works fine (apparently at least). But now I've lost the clip structure, so that's not helpful.
I've tried all kinds of different variations of settings - render timeline track on/off, strip alpha channel on/off, include audio on/off, etc etc. But no combination seems to work.
Any thoughts?
I'd rather not have to render each clip separately....
EDIT #1:
Well it gets weirder. I did spend the time to render clips indpendently, and that seems to have improved somewhat, but it's still not entirely working.
One clip in particular is giving me grief still: In the transcoded file (which is playing fine) the clip is 4:02 (=98 frames) long. Also properly displays in the source monitor at 0:0:4:2 in PR. The same clip is 4:02 long in the SG timeline, and upon export it says that it exported 98 frames. Yet, the resulting file imports into PR as 4:11. And incidentally right at 4:02 is where the image freezes up. So the content is fine, except that the SG export added some 9 phantom frames to the file.
So I guess exporting clips individually and trimming their end to reflect actual length may keep me moving. But that ain't right. Will report back if I find out more about this export issue.

Manuel - Yes, they do. In at least one of my tries I disabled audio in the output preset, but I haven't tried it with clips that had audio stripped from them. I'll go ahead and try that.
This does get into an issue of the workflow I haven't totally resolved yet, so I could avoid keeping audio with the clips. If I apply the initial grade and then only export proxies for editing, when the EDL is re-imported, how does one keep the adjustments form the initial grade with each clip before adding the final grading? In lieu of having an answer for that I was exporting the dailies at full quality so I could reconnect them with the EDL and then render the final output. Maybe this should be a separate discussion...

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Afterward, I installed these programs with the same installation disc on my laptop computer Windows 8 64 bit, I did not have any problems with either installation.
At this time, I do not know if this Invalid Serial Number is elusive to Photoshop Elements 12 or not.
If anyone is experiencing this problem with Premiere Elements, please let us know.
From the link above, it would appear that Adobe is working on the issue.
Thanks.
ATR

shikha
Thanks for the reply.
In my case, I had the network firewalls and anti-virus disabled when I did the installs of Photoshop Elements 12 and Premiere Elements 12 on Windows 7 64 bit as well as Windows 8 64 bit.
I was fortunate in that a 5th try of the serial number entry for the Photoshop Elements 12 install on Windows 7 64 bit was successful, so I did not have to do the computer restart and retry of the install with the purchased serial number. But, good to keep in mind, just in case.
It is ironic...last time around I got caught up in the Shared Technologies issues with Photoshop Elements 11 and Premiere Elements 11 on Windows 8 64 bit, not Windows 7 64 bit. But, in that case, I did find my way eventually to a successful install on Windows 8 64 bit. This time around it was Windows 7 64 bit where the glitch occurred, but, for me, only for Photoshop Elements 12.
But, could you clarify...are you generalizing that Photoshop Elements 12 Mac Invalid Serial Number is due to server issues and Invalid Serial Number encountered by Photoshop Elements 12 Windows is "online - due to some firewall or network issues"?
Just getting prepared for if and when more questions on Invalid Serial Number might pop up in this forum.
Thanks.
ATR

Issue with ProRes importing into Premiere CC in Windows

Hey all,
I realize the futility of using ProRes in a Windows environment, so I figured I'd just get that out of the way right off the bat. This is how I received the footage from the client and it's too much to try and convert into another codec (though if I must, I will, I'd just like to avoid it). Even so, I didn't really have an issue with this until I tried to work in CC.
I started this project in Premiere CS5 and was having no issues. I received some AE files in CC and decided I'd bite the bullet and move to the latest and greatest rather than try and rebuild the projects in CS5. I download, install, update, open up Premiere to rebuild the short edit, and then find that when I import ProRes files, all I get is audio, no video. I can import other codecs just fine, it's just ProRes that's refusing.
I've made sure Quicktime and the Windows QT Decoder for ProRes are updated, as well as Premiere CC. I've currently got all my work files bundled up on a drive to take to my 9 to 5 and work on a Mac on my lunch break, but for obvious reasons, I'd like to be able to work at home.
This client doesn't provide enough work to warrant a new Mac purchase, and I'm just at wit's end. It worked fine in CS5, why not in CC?
Here's my specs:
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
Premiere Pro CC 7.0.1
Quicktime (fully updated)
Quicktime ProRes Decoder for Windows (fully updated)
Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated!

cc,
cc_merchant wrote:
Have you seen the WARNING here: Balanced Systems.
The warning about Quicktime makes sense. I was aware that Quicktime 7 has never been updated to 64-bit, but the obvious 4GB RAM limitation had never occured to me. Makes sense. I have a very decent machine, yet all of my Canon DSLR and GoPro projects are more cumbersome to edit than even AVCHD files. I've spent a little time thinking it over and running some side-by-side tests. MOV vs. AVI (same video) Editing, scrubbing, playback—all while running Task Manager on top. But I didn't need task manager to tell me that the AVI plays back, layers and layers, smooth as butter. The .MOV footage struggled to keep up with my random access cuts to different locations within the same video file.
cc_merchant wrote:
most sane PC users would NEVER install QuickTime...
So now I'm fascinated. So many questions: Why do so many cameras create .MOV or .MP4 files that require QuickTime components? 64-bit QuickTime X has aparently been available on the Mac for quite a while, yet I presume they won't allow anyone else to develop a 64-bit codec for Windows, so why hasn't someone sued Apple for monopoly, anti-trust, conflict-of-interest, etc? And most importantly, how would a sane PC user go about editing MOV and MP4 files without going insane transcoding hours of footage?

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