Issues rendering Premiere CS4 movie with Media Encoder

I'm new to this but thought that someone might be able to provide some insight. I have Premiere CS4 and created a movie from a HD video camcorder.
The imported clips are in the following format:
Type: MPEG Movie
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 32
Frame Rate: 29.97
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - compressed - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Average Data Rate: 1.3 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
Now I'm simply trying to export the movie (Ctrl+M) using Media Encoder. I've been messing around with several different formats, including H264, MPEG and AVI and so far regardless of what output format I pick (even downsize) I'm getting some sort of "tearing" up in my clips. I'm not entirely sure how to describe this but it almost looks like a ghost effect with subjects leaving a ghost image when the scene starts moving around a bit.
I rendered the same exact clip using Windows Movie Market just for the sake of it and everything looks fine.
I'm rendering the clip on a Core i7 920 @3.7Ghz with 6GB of RAM so I don't think the speed is an issue as either (HD is a 300GB Velociraptor).
Any ideas what I am doing wrong
Thanks,
Sam

>Any ideas what I am doing wrong
Second thing wrong is posting in this forum. People in the Premiere forum will do a better job of offering help This forum is dedicated to helping people with suite-wide issues such as installation.

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De : "Jim Simon"
A : "JONES Peter"
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Objet : Premiere Pro and Adobe Media Encoder running slow
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