Ist camera raw und DNG-Converter die selbe Software (z. B. Version 8.3)?

Handelt es sich bei dem DNG-Converter automatisch auch um die camera raw?
Und wie kann ich die Version 8.3 updaten (Windows Vista und PSE 12)?

Ich fange mal von hinten an.
Hast Du LR aus der CC?
- Alle Photoshop Produkte sind lokal, also kein CC.
Wie hast Du das CR-Plugin installiert?
- Ich habe mir die Installationsdatei (DNGConverter_8_7_1.exe) heruntergeladen un dinstalliert.
Welches OS?
- Win 8.1
Was ist das Aktualisierungswerkzeug?
- Da es in der Fehlermeldung von LR angzeigt wurde, habe ich das von LR benutzt.
Inzwischen habe ich auch das Update-Tool von Adobe CS 6 genutzt und nun scheint das Problem behoben zu sein (hatte bei LR 4 und CS 4 nicht geholfen). Zumindest konnte ich es nicht mehr reproduzieren.
Danke erst mal für deine Hilfe. Ich schreibe wieder, falls das Problem erneut auftritt.

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Camera Raw and DNG Converter 4.4 Now Available

Details here: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2008/03/lightroom_14_and_camera_raw_44.html
Regards,
Tom

Hmmm... I got the DNG Converter and ACR from the page I listed.
If you go to the DNG page at http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/ and click on Downloads (in the light gray box on the upper right) for Mac or Windows (I'll use the Windows example here because I'm on a PC right now, but it also worked from my Mac) you will go to http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3894 and then you have to click on Proceed to download and it should say filename DNG_Camera)Raw_4_4.zip and be 5.4 meg in size (If you follow the Macintosh link the filename is DNG_Camera_Raw_4_4.dmg and is 12.5MB).
However, if you go to the Camera Raw page at http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html and click on the download links under the main gray box you will only get the Camera Raw file (filename is Camera_Raw_4_4.zip at 3.3MB or Camera_Raw_4_4.DMG at 7.8MB).
Both download places list the Product name as Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter. But the filenames are different and indicate which one you are downloading.
JOhn

Camera Raw and DNG Converter 4.3.1 Now Available

See details below:
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2007/12/lightroom_131_and_camera_raw_4.html
Regards,
Tom

> "A possible artifact in Camera Raw 4.3 raw file support for the Olympus E-3 has been corrected"
Would this also be the case for the DNG converter? (just curious because I had been evaluating E-3 ORFs with DNGC 4.3 and ACR v3.7)

Camera Raw and DNG Converter for PSE10 and PS CS5.5

I recently bought a Nikon D5200. I have Photoshop CS5.5 at home and PS Elements 10 at work. I had to download a DNG coverter in order to open my RAW files (NEF). I have 2 questions: 1) Which are the latest updates that will work with each of these programs (the listings on the Adobe Download pages are confusing) and 2) Do any of these updates allow a new NEF file to be opened directly without the extra step of DNG conversion? Bit of a pain.

Latest DNG converter can be downloaded from following link:
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/09/camera-raw-8-2-and-dng -converter-8-2-now-available.html
Regards,
Ashutosh

Camera Raw and DNG Converter using CS 5 with Photoshop on a Mac

The DNG Converter was installed but still did not allow me to open the files in Photoshop. What can I do to address this problem?

here's info on how to use dng converter, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bqGovpuihw

Camera Raw and DNG Converter 4.4.1 Now Available

Details here: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2008/04/lightroom_141_and_camera_raw_4.html
Regards,
Tom

Aha, mystery solved!
Camera Raw 4.4 incorrectly modified the EXIF time date field of images that were saved as TIFF or JPEG files from the Camera Raw dialog. This has been corrected in Camera Raw 4.4.1
This explains why I never saw that bug: I save images from ACR as PSDs, never as TIFFs or much less JPEGs.
I guess PSD files were not affected.

Camera Raw reduces DNG file size

I have raw file(CR2) size at 13.6 mb straight out of my Canon 7D. When I convert them in Adobe dng converter 5.7 I get 21.7 mb. When opening in Photoshop CS3 with Camera Raw 4.4.1 I get image size as W:3888 pixels by H:2592 pixels. I dont understand at which point the file size reduction takes place, as its supposed to be larger than that providing it was 13.6mb original file size. ( There is no compression option in camera raw or dng converter).

There is a hyperlink at the bottom of the Camera Raw interface that allows you to change some of the settings. One of the changes is to make the image smaller, the image that is sent to Photoshop. Is it possible that you have a setting chosen that reduces the size? Additionally, DNG files are usually a little smaller. Are you embedding the raw file in your DNG file? The DNG converter does not change the size of the image. It simply takes the raw image data and puts it in a new container DNG file.

Camera RAW and DNG version 8.2

I have a Canon 70D. How do I find out what version of camera raw and dng that I have installed?

Unfortunately, photoshop elements 11 can only use up to camera raw 7.4 for the camera raw plugin.
(in the photoshop elements 11 editor; Adobe Photoshop Elements Editor>About Plug-In and click on the words Camera Raw to find the version you have)
(Help>Updates in the pse 11 editor to check for updates)
You can use the DNG converter 8.6 to convert your canon 70d files to dng copies, which pse 11 should then open.
If you have mac os x 10.6.8 snow leopard then you would need to use dng converter 8.3
dng converter 8.6:
Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh : Adobe DNG Converter 8.6
dng converter 8.3:
Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Macintosh : Adobe DNG Converter 8.3
How to use the dng converter:
Camera Raw: How to use Adobe DNG Converter - YouTube
You could also upgrade to photoshop elements 12 or look at adobe lightroom 5.6 to avoid using the dng converter

Download not found when trying to download Raw to DNG Converter

When I try to download the Raw to DNG Converter 8.3, it tells me that the details for the download cannot be found as the DNS is not pointing to the correct area. I have tries other versions of the converter and it gives the same error. Any ideas?

When I go into Home/Downloads/Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter and choose a DNG Converter to download, in this case 8.3, I get take to a page which states that This Webpage is not available.
The address of the page is http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/dng/win/DNGConverter_8_3.exe
I have tried a few other DNG Converter versions and get the same thing.
It looks like a server is down or something.
Hope this helps in identifying the issue.

Camera raw and DNG files appear as generic icons

Camera raw and DNG files appear as generic icons instead of image previews (Bridge CS5)
What can I do ?

Hi Yammer.
First thanks a lot for taking your time to help me. I am really happy about it!
I will try to answer:
1)
I meant by having the Camera Raw.8bi placed in BOTH "C:\Programmer\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS5\Plug-Ins" and in C:\Programmer\Fælles filer\Adobe Plug-Ins\CS5\File Formats" the ACR will be found in two versions - or rather in two places (I know the former shouldn't be, but it solved my preview problem).
2)
YES - I do have tried twice starting the Adobe Bridge holding down the Ctrl-key and ticking the two (the third was greyed out but ticked anyway) and with no help.
3)
I have tried to do the *.8bi search you suggested, and this gives me the following dump - absolutely with a few more entries than yours. Some are like doubled.
Do you think I can just delete these?
Kind regards, Jan

D750 Nikon are the camera raw or DNG file ready to work in the Raw format in Lightroom?

D750 Nikon are the camera raw or DNG file ready to work in the Raw format in Lightroom?

Crazy idea - do a site search for "D750"...

Problems upgrading camera raw 8.3 to 8.5, upgrade finished but version 8.3 still shows in Bridge

problems upgrading camera raw 8.3 to 8.5, upgrade finished but version 8.3 still shows in Bridge

Moving this discussion to the Adobe Camera RAW forum.

Camera RAW und CS5

Hallo Experten.
Wenn ich Photoshop CS5 aktualisieren möchte, wird mir für
Camera RAW nur die Version 6.7 angeboten.
Es gibt aber schon 8.8. Oder ist 8.8 nicht für CS5 geeignet?????
Danke im Voraus für die Hilfe.
Gruß
Wolfgang Johannes
PS. Da ich kein Englisch kann, komme ich bei manchen Fragen auch nicht weiter.

CS5 ist nur bis Camera Raw 6.7 compatibel....für 8.8 brauchste das ps cs6......alternativ kannst du dir auch den dng converter runter laden
Homepage von Adobe> downloads > produktupdates....
Hoffe das hilft dir weiter!

Significant reduction in file size from Camera Raw to DNG

Hi,
I am currently testing the conversion of Leaf camera raw files into DNGs for a photographer's archive. I am hoping to convert all of the mos files to DNGs because Leaf Capture and the Leaf Raw Converter are not being updated and because the photographer wants to have an Adobe centered workflow. In my testing I discovered that converting mos files to DNGs through ACR 8.4 and LightRoom 5.4 resulted in a reduction of file size by nearly 50%. A 44.5MB mos file became a 23.6MB DNG. From what I've read only about 15-20% of the camera raw file should be lost and all of the data lost should be propietary.
Here-in lies my quesiton, is there any way that I can track or determine exactly what sort of compression is being done to the mos file and what information is or is not travelling in the conversion to DNG?
These are the settings I have used for converting raw files to DNGs:
ACR:
JPEG Preview: Medium Size
Embed fast load data
Don't use lossy compression
Preserve pixel counts
Don't embed original
LIGHTROOM 5.4:
Only Convert Raw files
Delete originals after successful conversion
File Extension DNG
Compatibility Camera Raw 7.1 and later
Jpeg Preview Medium Size
Embed Fast Load Data
Thanks!

50%? - I thought we were talking about 15-20%?
In my first post I questioned why I was seeing a reduction in file size of 50% when according to forums and articles I've read I should only be seing a 15-20% reduction in file size. I then wondered what data I might be losing, which you addressed.
Same as what? - what were the results.
I was referring to testing I preformed on camera raw files produced during different years (all mos). I converted all files with the same ACR and LR settings and found that the DNGs always reflected a 50% reduction in file size. This test suggests that any conversion issues is not necessarily related to how the camera raw files might have been differently built across years.
Adobe's raw data compression is touted by DNG zealots, but I haven't scrutinized it enough to corroborate or refute.., but my experience is that reduction is relatively marginal. All of this assumes original is also compressed - if uncompressed in original source, savings would be large.
The files I am dealing with are definitely uncompressed which could account for the large reduction in file size. I didn't realize until I posted to this thread that converting to a DNG results in a compression of the original image data. I understand that this compression is supposed to be lossless like a lossless compression to a tiff and thus result in no decrease in image quality or harm to the original image. I am baffled by how it is possible that any compression of a file (especially by 50%) could not result in a loss of important data but I will accept that it is possible to have a truly lossless compression and that the size reduction I am seeing could be a result of all of the different processes a file undergoes that you have outlined.
I looked into the effects that backwards compatibility has on the conversion process which might interest you http://dpbestflow.org/DNG#backwards-compatibility
I also posted to luminous landscape's forums http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=89101.new;topicseen#new
Although it wouldn't surprise me if the DNG conversion process tossed the xmp-like metadata, and kept the original stuff, but it would surprise me if it tossed the original stuff - but as I said before, I haven't scrutinized for completeness so I don't know.
I've done testing in which I converted .mos camera raw files with their sidecar xmps and without their sidecar xmps. My tests revealed that the DNG definitely carries over xmp metadata although it is not clear to me exactly how it is carried and if anything is lost.

Bridge: Metadaten (z.B Camera Raw und Exif) in der Bridge löschen

Hallo!
Ich versuche in der Bridge die Metadaten von mehreren Bilder, vor allem die Camera Raw Einträge zu löschen.
Funktioniert nicht?!
1.Über die Exportfunktion in Lightroom hat man die Möglichkeit die Metadaten durch nur copyright und Kontaktadresse zu ersetzen.
Kann man das irgendwie auch in der Bridge machen?
2.Warum gibt es eine Funktion Metadaten ersetzen wenn die Camera Raw Einstellungen in den JPG bilder nicht gelöscht werden?
3.Ebenso lassen sich die Camera Raw Informationen nicht durch eigens angelegte Metadaten ersetzen, auch nicht über den Umweg /Dateiinformation)
Grüße
Emmerich

1.Über die Exportfunktion in Lightroom hat man die Möglichkeit die Metadaten durch nur copyright und Kontaktadresse zu ersetzen.
Kann man das irgendwie auch in der Bridge machen?
No you can't, Bridge acts like a browser and reflects the contents of your disk. You can only use short cuts (start up scripts under menu Tools) to play actions for use through Batch in PS or the Image processor.
2.Warum gibt es eine Funktion Metadaten ersetzen wenn die Camera Raw Einstellungen in den JPG bilder nicht gelöscht werden?
You could make a feature request for this on PhotoshopFamily.com, however many people need this information and having an easy way to loose it might not be convenient for them.
3.Ebenso lassen sich die Camera Raw Informationen nicht durch eigens angelegte Metadaten ersetzen, auch nicht über den Umweg /Dateiinformation)
Those are merely copyright Metadata templates and only effects the fields you have assigned to them.
Try a third party solution like this:
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

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