Itouch 4th gen wont start, apple shown on screen

Has anyone seen this?  is the itouch completely dead or is there something else we can try?
have tried resetting by holding power and front botton down for 10 seconds. itouch restarts but still shows the apple in the middle of the screen.
also tried usb cord to computer, but itunes does not see the itouch.  The itouch does charge so it sees the power from the usb cable.
when plugged in to charge, it beeps every few minutes as if it is already charged.
we've also let the battery completely run down, then charged again, but the apple still shows on the screen.

Ok i fixed it!! I texted my best friend Ivan. (: You hold down both the lock and home button. As soon as the apple pops up, let go. (or else your data will be erased) then, i let it do its own thing for about 30 seconds and it turned on! yay!(:

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