ITunes 10.5 Apple Lossless

anyone else notice a change in quality over the previous versions ? and when i say change in quality i mean that it sounds much much better. i've already re-encoded a few of my CDs from verions 4, 6, and even 10.2, and i'm noticing more detail in the sound.
i'm asking this because i'm curious where the change is coming from. i'm also runing iOS 5.0.1. if that makes any difference.

yes that's what i'm saying- some of my older ALAC tracks have been in my library for a few years now encoded with version 6, etc. i'm just surprised at how big the jump in difference there was upgrading from a previous version to 10.5. seriously it's like night and day with some tracks.
i'll be re-ripping some more of my CDs in the next few weeks.

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How do i convert my exsisting itunes library to apple lossless?

Also whrn i do this will i have duplicate files(original/lossless)? If so what is the best way for me to delete them form my macbook? Thanks

Not to pile on here, but the only point of Apple Lossless is to have a slightly compressed version of the an original CD (AIFF). I have converted my full CD collection (too many disks to even count) to Apple Lossless. The sound quality is indistinguishable from the original CD. Because the files are rather large for use on an iPhone or smaller iPod, I then convert them to 256 AAC (for my iPhone) or 160 MP3 to burn MP3 disks for my cars. I keep the Lossless files as the original content.
However, lately, I'm just purchasing 256 AAC iTunes Plus files. I'm losing quality, but it's just not worth the time to purchase CD's and convert them any more.
There is absolutely no reason to convert 256 AAC files to Lossless. In fact, I'm sure it might degrade the sound quality in that a lot of information just isn't in the 256 AAC file. However, don't quote me on this.

Itunes match replacing Apple Lossless Files with .AAC

I have coverted my entire music library to apple lossless.. it appears that iTunes Match over time downgrades my music files to 256kbp .AAC files.
Is anyone else seeing this? How can I get iTunes Match to STOP doing this?

Michael Allbritton wrote:
iTunes Match does not touch the files on your computer. These files will be "downgraded" only if you delete the original file and download the matched track. The service does not upload ALAC files to the cloud. It converts the ALAC to a temporary AAC file, which is uploaded to listen to on iOS devices. On your computer, the ALAC files stay ALAC.
Hmm, that's interesting because on Apple's iTunes Match page it says (my emphasis):
Which music formats can iTunes Match handle?
You can match or upload music formats that can be played with iTunes. That includes AAC, MP3, WAV, AIFF, Apple Lossless, and more.
which clearly suggets that it will upload ALAC to iCloud

ITunes conversion of Apple Lossless to AAC not working

Hello:
I have all my CD's ripped to Apple Lossless. I then use iTunes to convert to 192 kbs AAC for use on my iPod. When I do this, though, the size is barely changed. Instead of taking a 23 MB lossless file down to 1 MB, it rips to about 20 MB. Has anyone else seen this? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks.
pmb

pbombach wrote:
Hello:
Instead of taking a 23 MB lossless file down to 1 MB, it rips to about 20 MB. Has anyone else seen this? Am I doing something wrong?
Even if it is working correctly, it does not shrink it by that much. AAC at 192 with constant bit rate uses about 1.5 MB per minute of music, or 6 MB for a 4 minute song. If you use VBR, it will be higher.
As Kay suggests, make sure that your import settings are correct. Also, note that conversion creates a new file and leaves the original in place, so make sure you are looking at the new file. Its Date Added will be the date of conversion, and its "Kind" will be AAC.

Airport Express, iTunes and streaming Apple Lossless format

I'm currently streaming my music wirelessly from iTunes to the Airport Express. Most of my music is in MP3/AAC format but I'm going to do through the tedious process of ripping it into Lossless format
What I want to know though is when iTunes streams it to the Airport Express does it re-encode it on the fly or does it stream the Lossless format? The reason I ask is that I have a monitoring tool that monitors my upload speed from my laptop over the wireless connection - when I stream a lossless file it's showing an upload rate of approx 150 kb/s, when I stream an mp3 it shows an upload rate of approx 140 kb/s - very similar. The mp3 is encoded at 192kbps and the lossless file is ~1000kbps.
I was expecting a huge difference in the strain on the wireless network but it doesn't seem to show any difference. Strange?? Comments/explanations please!
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One of my friends did a similar thing and found out
afterwards that his media streamer couldn't cope with
the Windows Media lossless format and would keep
dropping out. Naturally he only discovered this
after ripping his entire collection - whoops!
It is possible with iTunes to convert an entire collection from Lossless to ACC (or mp3 for example).
I recently did this, as my ripped collection on my desktop is in Lossless format, whilst I wanted it in mp3 format on my laptop as I needed to save disk space and the speakers on the laptop aren't much cop anyhow.
Change your iTunes importing preferences to mp3.
Select all the songs and convert selection to mp3.
Your music library will then consist of all the tracks in both lossless and mp3 format.
I then deleted the lossless format version.

Can't Import Songs To iTunes Using Apple Lossless Encoder

I have about 4,000 songs in FLAC format (which is a lossless format) on my external hard drive. I want to import them into iTunes using the Apple Lossless Encoder. I called Apple support and asked them how to do this, and they told me to go under "Preferences" in iTunes and chose to import using Apple Lossless Encoder.
I did this using Preferences>General>Import Settings, and then went to File>Add Folder to Library, however, it still imported my songs as AAC Audio Files. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.

iTunes cannot read nor import FLAC files - not without third-party plugins, anyway, and I don't know of any that will allow iTunes to convert a FLAC file to another format - so I'm a bit confused as to the procedure you're following. If all you're doing is using the Add to Library command and choosing the FLAC files, it's quite possible that iTunes is misinterpreting the format and adding what is in reality an invalid link with erroneous format information.
If you have some sort of third-party plugin for FLAC for iTunes, please post that information and perhaps someone here can determine whether iTunes can do a conversion successfully.

How do i keep my apple lossless files when I use iTunes match?

When I started using iTunes Match, my Apple Lossless and aiff lossless files were converted to lower quality 256 files in iTunes on my mac. How do I stop this from happening? I want to keep the Lossless files as they are.
Thanks
Bud

Sorry ...... but .....
Would it make a difference when I used iMatch .... I started the service the day it was made available. Was it an original issue and has since been corrected?
-iTunes and the music files were on my iMac internal Hard Drive. Only 1 iTunes Library.
-No alternate iTunes libraries were created ergo match not turned on to an alterante.
-The original files were added to the iTunes Library from an external hard drive ... which were copied to my internal hard drive by iTunes. (Advanced tab feature) The external backup drive (4TB Seagate Mac Drive) is only connected when I use it to backup physical files. I do not use a backup program. Everything is copied its own folder. Most files were ripped from my cd's i.e. to the external Drive using XLD. Not one pirated file. a few HD albums purchased from HD Tracks.
-I even tried re-adding some of the Original FLAC files to iTunes again. They were physical in my iTunes on the internal hard drive. They were also replaced.
The fact is .... The Original Files were altered. They had not been deleted and replaced, they were altered. They were the original files on my internal hard drive. Only 1 copy of iTunes is on the computer.

Sorry if this was posted before, but Apple Lossless in iTunes store?

When is the iTunes store getting Apple Lossless albums? I have a 30mbps fiber connection here in New York! I downloaded an album in about 30 seconds for $9.99, I want to download an album in 3 minutes but it should be lossless! I will pay the full cd price for Lossless! None of this $9.99 discount stuff!
Thanks
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There is one such store - Music Giants - but they're much more restrictive than any other download store. For instance, they do not allow burning tracks to an audio CD, so you can't play tracks in anything that won't play protected Windows Media format. They also don't guarantee CD quality - they list a range of from 470kbps to 1100 kbps, so the quality of any given track may or may not be CD-equivalent.

How do I copy music files in Apple Lossless format on to a flash drive so I can play on a digital media player.

I have an iMac 21", running on OS X Yosemite 10.10.2, processor is 2.7GHz Intel Core i%, Memory 8GB 1333MHz.
I would like to copy some of my iTunes music in Apple Lossless or AIFF to a flash drive which I would like to insert into a digital media player in my home Hi Fi system. How do I copy the files in these formats. Thank you.

Drag the song files there, either from the iTunes application window or the iTunes Media folder in the Finder.
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Apple Lossless file type question....

I rip CD's with my preferences set to Apple Lossless. I import from the iTunes store, also supposedly Apple Lossless. However, the music files are labelled as AAC or protected AAC (get info>file type)
Why is this?
Fabian

I thought that all content from the iTunes store was Apple Lossless files (either 128 or 256 for +).
It isn't. It's AAC content at those bitrates. Apple doesn't sell Apple Lossless songs.
Shouldn't the file type come up as Apple Lossless rather than AAC?
See above.
Isn't AAC a lossy file type, different from Apple Lossless?
AAC is lossy.
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Library size after Apple Lossless conversion

Hi,
I've converted my itunes library to Apple Lossless format in the belief that I could get more songs onto my iPod, however, even though I've deleted the old format song from the music library, my library has nearly doubled in size. Anyone got any idea how to slim it down?
Thanks

If you converted from MP3, the ONLY thing you did was increase the file size by about 5 times.
Once it is converted to MP3, the file size is ~10% of the original. A lot if data is thrown out. Converting that MP3 to Lossless will not get back any info since it no longer exists.
I'm looking for the smallest size with the least loss from the original
You need to RIP from the original CD to Apple Lossless.
Apple Lossless is still gonna be ~50%-60% of the original file size, which is usually ~30MB to 60MB.
AAC at 192 kbps is ~1.5 MB per minute and unless using a high end stereo equipment and a high end sound card, most users will not be able to hear any difference.
I suggest you RIP the same CD a few different way and compare them. Check the file size and audio quality.

Size of Apple Lossless Files

According to iTunes help, an Apple Lossless File should be about 5MB per minute of music. I am experiencing from 6.5MB to 7.5MB per minute. Is this related to a setting which is incorrect, the type of music I am importing, or is Apple simply wildly optimistic?

Your second reason--the type of music you're importing. Apple isn't far off, on average, but there can be a wide range of encoding rates, depending upon the complexity and nature of the source recording audio. Just look at the variable encoding rates on any full CD you might have imported. One that I have, for example, ranges from 678 to 982 kbps among its 13 tracks.

Ripping CDs via Apple Lossless

In anticipation of the launch of iTunes Match, I started ripping my CDs in Apple Lossless format. I ripped two CDs but then I notice that those tracks were not available on my Windows Media Player as well as for Amazon cloud drive. I then converted the files to AAC via iTunes, which made them compatible with Amazon (haven't tested the WMP yet). However, all the tracks were duplicated in iTunes. Is there any way to avoid this, basically have both Apple Lossless and AAC files in my machine, but not duplicate my iTunes albums? Thanks!

It is perfectly possible to get WMP 12 in WIndows 7 to accept Apple Lossless files, to play them, and even to read the embedded metadata including the embedded album artwork. I cannot comment about Amazon's cloud, however even Apple's own iCloud only supports AAC format in that via iTunes Match (when turned on by Apple) it will provide only 256kbit AAC even if your own iTunes copy is in something else like Apple lossless.
To get WMP 12 and Windows 7 to accept Apple Lossless you need to do the following
Install a directshow filter so WMP can play Apple lossless, there is only one such directshow filter available, it was written by Milenko Mitrovic and is based on a solution devised by myself. The easiest way to install this is as part of a codec pack for Windows 7, as this pack will also do the hard work of disabling the built-in AAC codec which otherwise would interfere, the directshow filter can play both AAC and Apple Lossless. This pack can be downloaded from here http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html
You now also need to install a plugin for WMP 12. While Apple Lossless uses exactly the same file extension, exactly the same file format, exactly the same metadata format as AAC which WMP 12 already understands, Microsoft deliberately chose to make life difficult and put Apple Lossless files in the other section instead of the music section. This plugin written by Tim De Baets tricks WMP 12 in to handling Apple Lossless just like AAC and therefore put them in the music section, see http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=76 7947
I have my entire iTunes library in Apple Lossless and shared with WMP. Via WMP it even works in Microsoft Media Center.
If your syncing your iTunes library to an iPod, iPhone, or iPad, you can set iTunes to automatically convert to AAC format when copying to your iPod (or similar) device. Your iTunes library will be unaffected and just keep a single Apple Lossless version.
If you do want to have both AAC and Apple Lossless versions but not have both listed, you can create a second separate iTunes library by holding down the Shift key when you launch iTunes.

Will new ATV stream apple lossless?

I put all my CDs in itunes in the Apple Lossless format which synced to my old AppleTV because I wanted my music in the highest quality. The specs say the new ATV supports Apple Lossless, but my question is: does that mean it will stream in that high quality format or support it? Are they synonymous? I like the idea of digitizing my music and having assess to any musical tracks but don't want to sacrifice the music quality.

I am in a similar situation as the original poster--I have my entire library in apple lossless. Part of this library was created in apple lossless from CDS directly in iTunes, but some of it was converted to apple lossless from a previous FLAC library. I read a different thread from 2008 that apple lossless files that were created using a conversion may not stream on ATV, even though they work on iPod, iTunes, etc. Is this still the case with the new ATV? If not, I'm off to buy one tomorrow!
As an aside, I wonder will consumers ever be able to download music from the iTunes store in lossless format? I am still buying CDs and ripping because this is not available....
Thanks for the help!

How do I Download from Itunes store using the Apple Lossless format?

I use my music on a home sterio and import locally from CD's to Windows using the Apple Lossless format only, to achieve the Highest quality sound. However, When I buy from Itunes store I can only get AAC format, which is low quality. How can I get Itunes to give me only Apple Lossless format?
Your help will b e appreciated.
Thanks
Phil

I do agree with what i have been said. I am a musician, i think AAC is definitely medium-low quality. I bought this year lots of AAC 256 for Itunes. I have been surprised. SO many times i need to go to the equalizer to counter-balance the weakness of this file format.
I advise you to do the following. Import a CD using Apple LossLess and then import a CD using AAC 256. You will see a HUGE difference.
Now i start to buy CD again in order to get the music Quality. Then i import my CDs to Itunes using Apple LossLess (920Kbps). You will ear that on Snares and Rides. Bass will sound more natural. Bass, Medium, Sharp will more balance with each other. You will hear instruments with more clarity especially when there are a lot of instruments. Because of that, you will not need to raise up the volume.
But more than anything... you will gain VOLUME in your files.
In general over the internet all the online music stores including Itune doesn't provide HD quality. AAC 256 is not enough. A track bought over Itune Store should weight 30 megabytes, not 5. And then you would decide to compress it or not.

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