ITunes/iPod song order problem

i have an original 512 shuffle that i load with podcasts and a few songs to listen to while i commute. i drag the podcasts from the library to the ipod in itunes and them arrange them in the order that i want them played. when i disconnect the ipod and turn it on (not in shuffle mode) the files are not in the order that i had them arranged. when i plug the ipod back into my mac the order is not how i arranged it. this only started recently. ideas?
Powermac G5 2.7 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Why assume that Podcasts are not music? Or that files in a user's Library are music? I subscribe to music podcasts and my Library has many audio books and spoken word recordings. Shouldn't my iPod let me arrange these tracks in the order of my choice, rather than assuming (incorrectly most of the time) that I would want the podcasts on top? I don't think I would have any difficult finding and playing podcasts if Apple left my song order untouched. (Needless to say, like the originator of this thread, I am not using it in "shuffle" mode.)
Okay, as long as you define 'bad' as 'not the way I
want it to be'. You might want to consider how, given
the design of the Shuffle, you'd ever be able to find
and listen to just Podcasts (and not music) if they
were NOT placed at the top of the list in that play
mode.
If you want your iPS to treat your podcasts just like
any other garden-variety music track then you'll
probably have to jump through some or all of the
miscellaneous hoops that people have discovered and
discussed in these and other forums. The subject has
been covered ad nauseum; you'll have a lot to choose
from.
Or, you can simply get some other MP3 player which
will do what you want. I'm not claiming that there is
one, but there certainly could be.
In the meantime, it is what it is

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OK, When I am trying to do this, I see the following
columns
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I've been referring to the UNlabeled column to the LEFT
of the "Name" column all this time... you seem to not be able to recognize that there actually IS such column according to your description.
I'm referring to the numbers on the LEFT side as in this image:
http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/51/3053501176226988/www.info.apple.com/images/kba se/305350/305350_1.gif
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