ITunes + Kids + iPods + DRM = Confused

Before getting iPods for my two boys, music was simple for me and our family:
1 Macbook
1 iTunes Store Account
1 iPod (used mostly for family road trips)
Most of my music is ripped from our own CDs, but we are buying more stuff from the iTunes Store. Also, my two teens now have their own iPods.
Until now, any purchased music (think DRM issues) has been bought by me (one account). When the boys go off to college, will all these purchases be "stuck" on my Mac unless I make their computers "authorized." (Some stuff I by is for all of us and some stuff is just for them!)
Should they open their own accounts before I buy too much music for them? If we do that, will we need to buy the same songs several times if we all like them? Will I need to "re-buy" songs for them if we all like them?
I know that I can make several libraries, but I don't think that is my issue yet. (I know I can by sones without DRM, by that seems like the easy--but costly--solution.)
Any advise would be appreciated.
Message was edited by: Pherd

Sorry, I am no expert in this but as far as I am aware you can have up to 5 computers authorised to use your iTunes account (See the Store -> Authorize Computer menu item). This allows you to use all 5 machines on the same iTunes store and each can play music from that iTunes Store account (I have two machines set up this way myself).
I manually copied the songs that I wanted across initially but now use a shared network library (Not useful for you with people in different states / locations). I also think you can set the iPod to re-sync with multiple computers where the computers have been authorised (But this in itself can lead to problems...).
I think the simplest way is to create a playlist for your son and then export it to a 2nd machine which has been authorised for the iTunes Account (Just don't let your son order too many tunes!)

Similar Messages

My youngest kid found oldest kid ipod and entered wrong password to many times and now it tells me the ipod is disabled connect to itunes and when i connect to itunes it tells me that i need to unlock the ipod what do i do

my youngest kid found oldest kid ipod and entered wrong password to many times and now it says it is disabled and i need to connect to itunes when i do it tells me i need to unlock the ipod and it wont let me what do i do

Connect the iPod to yur syncing computer and restore the iPod via iTunes.. If it asks for the passcode and you can't enter it, place the iPod in recovery mode and then restore the iPod. For recovery mode see:
iPhone and iPod touch: Unable to update or restore

HT3819 I just bought my kids iPods. How can we share music from my iTunes library without crossing over with text messages, etc?

I just bought my 3 kids iPods. How can we share music from my iTunes library without crossing over with texts, apps, etc?

Create new IDs for each by:
Create a NEW account using these instructions. Make sure you follow the instructions. Many do not and if you do not you will not get the None option. You must use an email address that you have not used with Apple before.
Creating an iTunes Store, App Store, iBookstore, and Mac App Store account without a credit card
Use that Id only for:
- Settings>Messages>Send and receive and sign out your ID and sign into the new one. Make sure that only that ID email address is listed.
- Settings>FaceTime sign out of your ID and sign into the new . Make sure that under You can be reached at only the new ID email address is listed
- Settings>iCloud and sign out and sign in with the new one
Continue to the one one common ID for Settings>iTunes and App stores. That is what controls purchases.

TS1363 How do I transfer my ITunes songs to my ipod? confused

I need help transfering my songs from ITUNES to IPOD. I don't see my device on my computer and everytime i tried to add a song to my device. I don't see it on my Ipod. What's going on am I doing something wrong?

Does the iPod show up in Windows, but not in iTunes, as in the linked support doc, or does it not show up at all? Have you tried a different cable, or one that you know works with another device? Have you tried connecting the device to a different computer?
tt2

Frustrated to the point of scrapping iTunes and iPod!

Everything worked perfectly until the latest iTunes and iPod 'upgrade'. Since the upgrade both iTunes and my 60MB video iPod are useless. On the iTunes side, everytime I try to enter the iTunes Store, I get a 'network connection reset' error (access to all other Apple web site locations works OK). On the iPod side, at least 75% of the stored podcasts cause the Ipod to crash and reset (same files played perfectly before the update). At first I thought my iTunes problems were caused by my not accepting having Apple poll the contents of my Music Library looking for missing cover art (so they say). I finally gave in, but still no luck getting into the iTunes store. Can someone give me the appropriate links for restoring iTunes and the iPod firmware to their 'pre-update' status (i.e. rolling both back a rev.)?
 20" Intel iMac (2.0GB RAM, 500GB HD + 1.5TB external, 20" Cineama Display) Mac OS X (10.4.7) All tools, no talent!

Now that iTunes 7.0.1 is out, let's see if it helps!
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
eMac Mac OS X (10.4.7)
Unfortunately that did't work either. Strange I can access all other Apple web locations as well as any other web site, but not the iTunes store. I wonder if they've put some new security features in V7.x that is causing the problem. My internet access is via satellite so there is considerable latency. I wonder if this is raising a flag some place. Based on past experiences, trying to get help from Apple is an exercise in futility so I don't even bother any more.
I swear that they are going to keep tightening the screws with DRM and other foolishness to the point where not even paying customers will be able to use the online services. For example, I've been trying to access the Music Store to pick up an episode of a TV show that I missed. A quick web search turned up at least a dozen bit torrent feeds for the same program. If I can't buy it, I'm left with few options.
Another posting to this thread suggested I go back to V6.0 via the installation disc that shipped with the iPod. Unfortunately I can't find it, but even if I could, Apple would be relentless in trying (forcing) me to come up to the current rev.
I recently retired and bought my first iMac and iPod and junking my Windows computer and Creative MP3 player. I figured, going 100% Apple would insure worry free computing for the duration, at least that's what the commercials would have you believe. I now see why the Apple user is a kid and the PC user is an older man. When I was the age of that kid I could have better tolerated the frustration.
 20" Intel iMac (2.0GB RAM, 500GB HD + 1.5TB external, 20" Cineama Display) Mac OS X (10.4.7) All tools, no talent!

Accessibility of iTunes and iPod for Blind users

In any of the updates to Itunes or Ipod has the ability to use the product by the Blind been considered? Being a Low-Vision/Blind user I think accessibilty has gotten worse instead of better. This is not just an Itunes on Windows Issue. Itunes on the Mac barily works with VoiceOver
In 7.0.X here are a few things that broke.
1. The Album flipping view mode cause Screen Magnifiers to have problems with Overlay and the Album art is not magnified.
2. No way to navigate the Itunes store if you are totally blind. Why not just let us browse it in Internet Explorer or Firefox and then download afterwords into Itunes.
3. Standard methods for navigating Menus, Tree Views (source list / playlist side) do not work always and some times have very unexpected results.
There are very easy ways to fix this. As you are updating the application make sure that each control or widget gets its own MSAA information. On the Mac side make your developers actually follow your own standards for accessibility even if it means rewriting the program. Well they are at it they can fix most of iLife and Pages.
Now onto the Ipod 3g 4g 5g and the Nano 1g and 2g, These devices with some practice can be used by a blind person if they are setup correctly by someone sighted. Thats all well and good except if you just went out and bought a shinny new 80gb Ipod and now don't know how to navigate it. Well the solution to this is actually very easy. Durring startup it could play a quick set of clicks to let a blind user know it is doing something. Then once it is up and running the menu system could playback via the headphones recorded speech files stored in directory already on the shinny new Ipod. Something like "Main Menu" "Music", the user slides their finger around the wheel one spot to the right and "AudioBooks" and so on. Now your question comes to artists and genra's and Album titles. This could be a feature of the new ITunes 7.1.x where when you are syncing your Ipod it goes to the iTunes store and gets the appropiate audio files needed. or using the Very Nice Apple TTS makes the files on the fly and stores them. You say this would use up space on the Ipod, well yes it would and you could make so a sighted user could turn it off until the iPod resets or they if they are really cramped for space could remove the directory with the sounds in it, but restoring the iPod would put these features back in place. These features have more use then just for the blind, who are highest population for buying audio content be it Unabridged audio books, CD's, or from online sources. Once these features are out in the general public and touted as be available you will have the busy business traveler to the jogger using them, epecially when it is not appropriate to take your eyes from something else, like driving. A driver could just reach down and touch the iPod and press the menu key and here "Music Menu", "PlayLists". Now we click the center button and our drivers heres "Gym Workout" clicks the wheel around to the right and heres "Peaceful Drive". He/She press the play button and heres "Playing, Peaceful Drive, 15 items in list" now this next part whould need to be toggleable on and off, while the iPod is cueing up the song it could say the song name and artist but this could be distracting.
Now if you really got brave with this project you could just add the TTS (Text to Speech) program into the Ipod. It would probably only take as much space as the new games you are selling for the 4g 5g and nano's. I know the Ipod has enough processer power. If it can play compressed video it could be executing a speech synthesizer in the background. With the dropping cost of the iPod I can see you may have to make this an add-on. That would be fine but include like a ten-day trial period with each new firmware update and have it on by default. This way allowing the user base to have time to see what it can do for them. If this is the choice then it should be a very inexpensive addon. Like in the $40 range. With the very extinsive userbase of Ipod's out there the Return on Investment should be very quick. if just 10% of the 300,000 blind people in the USA bought it, that equals 30,000 times $40 equals $120,000. This is not including the Learning Disabled, general poplulation, and people in foriegn countries who would love to have the stuff read it them. Now back to the blind, currently the devices made for the blind that are "accessible" cost from $400 and up that can play digital content not burned to a CD. So, if this was made for the Nano 2g a blind person could spend $200 on the device and $40 on the speech after the ten-days are up or they are coming close. The are still ahead by $160. Now if the person is a eclectic listener like my self then I would buy the 80gb unit at $350 and add the speech for $40 and have all the space I needed for my music, books, and my recordings I do with the Belkin recorder.
Another feature that should be looked into is the ability to play Daisy Content from Recordings for the Blind and Dislexic http://www.rfbd.org This is the new style of releasing text books to those you can not read regular print. They are stored on a CD in mp3 format with a encryped index. Now this type of thing is not a problem since you already have support for your own and Audible's digital rights management in iTunes and adding another method would not be that hard. An iPod Nano 4gb could hold 6 to 8 books for a Grade School, Middle School, High School, or College student. That would be greate, one small device to play content and no worrrying about what Cd the chapter is on or where you put the CD's, and not having to carry around a CD player just for the books. Also an iPod has become common place enough to not be notices.
Shawn,
This will be cross posted to my blog and to the Ipod Forum here. My Blog is located at http://wizardwlf.spaces.live.com

My goal is not to directly influience Apple. I am trying to influiece you the customer to write feedback to Apple, if not on your own behalf, for your family member who is blind/low vision, a blind co-worker at your office, a friend of a friend even. Apple will see my one comment in feedback and say he is just an extremist and being it is just one comment just ignore it becuase their are much cuter things some marketing person wants them to do. They may just respond with use the Shuffle it doesn't have a screen. Why should the blind be limited to 1GB of space?
So here is your chance. Talk to your friends who use the Ipod/Itunes, talk to the manager at your local Apple store, tell them all to think about what they could do with a talking iPod, let alone the accessibility this would give the blind.
The Mimico Kid wrote this in the iTunes Windows Forum
Shawn,
I did a quick search of the Apple web site and found a fair bit of information on accessibility issues for the Mac OS X operating system in general (you might want to have a look here if you're interested) but couldn't find anything relating to iTunes for Windows in particular.
Since Apple has set up these forums for users to help one other with their problems, there isn't much we can do as far as acting on your suggestions. You might want to submit your comments directly to Apple by filling out the forum on this page: http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html .
All the best!
I wrote back:
Yes that is a pretty advertisement page for the Tiger Accessibility and for the accessibilty of the hardware.
But what is missing is the same page for iTunes and iPod. Those two products which right now are Apple's Hot market. They do not even train the sales staff in the Apple Stores to use and demonstrate these features to a parent / spouse/ child of someone with a disability.
VoiceOver is great in the finder and terminal and mostly works in Safarie and Mail. It mostly works in system dialog boxes but forget AppleWorks, GarageBand, Microsoft Office. The ProTools folks are actually working on making that program work with VoiceOver even better.
My best recommendation to anyone on this forum who is a Mac User. Use SearchLight to find VoiceOver. Now read some of the documentation to get the gist of how it works. Once you have done this, Start VoiceOver and turn off your screen. Try using the keybard commands you just learned or even the ones you think you know in iTunes. You will find it extremely hard to navigate.
Shawn

My kids ipod nano 5th gen does not sync to music and gets error 13019 message. So far done all the suggestions - and now it has NO music. It seems to download all the music and then error after the last song.

Kids ipod gets the 13019 error after trying to sync. I have done all the suggestions online and now it has no music and will not sync.
It seems to download all the music and on the last song clicks out and says unknown error.
any other suggestions?
Kid is mad now there is NO music on the ipod. At least before it had the old music and just would not download new songs.
All worked on our iphones, and other ipods. Just hers is wacked.
thanks

I've encountered the same problem as this recently, but unfortunately i haven't worked out how to fix it yet.
I tried to fit too many songs on my ipod nano from itunes, and it told me it would create a selection of these (titled my songs) and put them on the nano, which it did. I then went back onto itunes to delete some songs so that they would all fit on the nano. I also deleted the "my songs" playlist, knowing that all the songs were still stored under Music on itunes. When i tried to sync the nano it said that it couldn't be synced as the required disk cannot be found.
HELP, PLEASE!

HT204053 Is there a limit to the number of devices I can have on one account. I have all two of my kids ipods, plus, mine, an ipad, and my iphone, and need to add one more. I do this so that I have control over and can see what they are downloading.

Is there a limit to the number of devices I can have on one account. I have been putting my kids' ipods on my account so that I can manage their downloads, and control it. Then I just create playlists for them specifically. Now, adding another one for my youngest, but have no idea if there are limits.

Well the part about putting songs in the "iTUnes Music" folder I only brought up because it seemed you liked things very organized. You could use iTunes to so all the organizeing. Plus once you add something to the iTUnes library, if you change ANYTHING about it in windows explorer, like its name, change the name of the folder its in or move it to another folder, iTUnes "Looses Track" of it. Its not like other programs that "Watch" files and folders for changes outside its "iTUnes Music" folder
But to have iTUnes auto search, you have to delete a hidden pref file. After doing this, when you open iTUnes again it will throw up a setup wizard, just like its the first time ever installing it. Its in this wizard where you get your ONLY chance to have iTUnes auto search and add files from the system. Just goto the link below and follow Scott P's steps
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=607357
Also since your new to the ipod, you my want to check out the "iPod 101" section so you can learn the ropes of everything
http://www.apple.com/support/ipod101/

How do I share games and music with two kids ipod touch 4g and my iphone 4s

I have Iphone 4s and want to share paid games and music with both of my kids Ipod 4gen touchs. Don't have them set up with individual itunes accounts yet due to fact I don't want to pay for a game three times or a common liked song three times. New to this, please help?

As long as the other iPods are signed into the iTunes account that originally purchased apps, they can just redownload them again and not be charged. If in the USA you can also redownload them by:
Downloading past purchases from the App Store, iBookstore, and iTunes Store

My kids ipod touch not working, What can we do?

I connected by mistake the charger of my ipad 3 , to my kids ipod touch 4g, now the ipod touch does not power on it only displays the apple logo and then turns off, then it turns on again but only the apple logo and then turns off again, i tried reset it in itunes and did not work, What can we do? Thanks a lot for your help....

Apple Support recommends the "5 Rs": reset, restore, reading, 'riting, and 'rithmetic. I'm kidding about the last 3. Check out the iPod section of Support.

I have kids ipods and my iphone but i dont want the same apps to go o these product how can i do this/

i have kids ipods and my iphone but i dont want the same apps to go o these product how can i do this/

Also, if you sync to the same computer/iTunes library use the manual method so only checked items sync to the device
Managing content manually on iPhone, iPad, and iPod

Our old computer crashed which had all the kids ipod touch library on it. Now when I connect ipods to new computer it says I have to erase all the app, etc to sync with new computer. Is there anyway to sync to the new computer w/out losing all data?

Our old computer crashed which had all the kids ipod touch library on it. Now when I try to connect them to new computer it says I need to erase all data, apps, etc. to sync with new computer. It is saying that it can only be connected to one library at a time. Is their anyway around this without having ot erase all their stuff?

- Transfer iTunes purchases to the new computer by:
iTunes Store: Transferring purchases from your iOS device or iPod to a computer
- Transfer other music by using a third-party program like on of those discussed here:
newer copy
- Connect the iPod to the computer and make a backup by right clicking on the iPod under Devices in iTunes and select Back Up
- Restore the iPod from that backup.
Note that the iPod backup that iTunes makes does not included synced media like apps and music.

Share music with my kids' ipod?

share music with my kids' ipod?

As long as the other iPods are signed into the iTunes account that originally purchased apps, they can just redownload them again and not be charged. If in the USA you can also redownload them by:
Downloading past purchases from the App Store, iBookstore, and iTunes Store

How do I prevent apps which I've downloaded to my iphone from automatically downloading to my kids ipod touch

How do I prevent apps that I've downloaded to my Iphone from automatically downloading to my kids ipod touch. Also how do I prevent apps which my kid has downloaded to her ipod touch from automatically downloading to my ipad/iphone when I connect to the computer. I manage all through my same itunes account.

When you connect a device to ITunes go to the Apps tab for that device and uncheck "Automatically sync new apps". You will have to do this for each device.

ITunes erases iPod 2G and will not see it

I have iTunes 7 (most recent updates). I have the most recent updates of Tiger. I just recently updated my 2G iPod with the most recent software.
If I have iTunes open and I plug in the iPod (via FW), iTunes will not recognize the iPod. If I close iTunes and plug in the iPod, iTunes will open automatically and recognize the iPod, or iTunes will hang and I will have to force quit it.
If I have music on the iPod, and I have it set to manually organize, it will erase my music. Sometimes when I plug in the iPod, iTunes will pop up a wizard that want me to name the iPod and asks if I want to have it sync automatically. This usually means that iTunes happily just erase my iPod.
What is going on? Is Apple trying to tell me to get a new iPod?

He means 2G like Second Generation (Scroll-wheel) iPod, not the 2 GigaByte Nano. Yah, confusing.
I'd have to agree with Colin, however - if iTunes works, it maybe an iPod thing. If nothing else, try trashing iTunes and iPod preferences file. (~/Library/Prefernces/com.apple.iTunes.plst & com.apple.iPod.plst). That's the library in your user folder. Note that there's an iPod Pref file in the "Macintosh HD/Library/Preferences/" folder too. Find those files, and move them to the trash. Open iTunes, connect iPod, and make sure everything works - iTunes will regenerate the preferences files, although you'll have to re-adjust the preferences yourself in iTunes.
-Dan

ITunes + Kids + iPods + DRM = Confused

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for