ITunes Match on a NAS?

How do fellow Apple'ers,
Quick spec on what's being used at the minute:
-rMBP
-iPad Mini
-iPhone 4S
-Time Capsule
-ATV (don't know what gen you call it - the new one..)
-iTunes Match
Prospectively looking to add:
-A NAS
-Mac Pro on release (for no other reason than it will complete my life..)
So, what I'm looking to do;
-Have a NAS set as the main and only iTunes library (most likely set up as a 3rd party iTunes Server)
-Have iTunes Match see this iTunes Library (on the NAS), and upload for all devices to use in iTunes Match mode (including the rMBP)
Most other threads I've found basically say "point your rMBP to the NAS for the iTunes Server and it'll work" - which isn't what I want. I've had a play with this, but then the rMBP is seen as the 'host' for iTunes Match - therefore can't stream/cache songs - ie, when out of internet range, it can't connect to the NAS so hasn't any music cached on it.
Hope this makes sense to someone, and they can advise?
Much love,
Ash x

Presumably the Mac Pro will be resident on the network alongside the NAS?
iTunes Match requires a computer based iTunes library to act as the conduit to the Cloud.
The NAS is effectively a 'local Cloud', however it is unlikely that the NAS can host iTunes.
So the options are:
1. Use the Mac Pro iTunes library and the main conduit to the Cloud - periodically manually backup to the NAS, so the NAS can provide a local iTunes service; or
2. Configure the Mac Pro to always use NAS as the location of its iTunes library - a neat solution provided the NAS is always on.
In both options, once iTunes Match has completed its 'matching' / 'upload' the iDevices and rMBP can use Match as there source. A NAS with decent RAID configuration makes a superb local backup option.

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