ITunes syncs duplicate photos (Identical RAW and JPEG)

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2398472
I just don't want iTunes to sync photo duplicates. I had brought this up before and this is still an issue for me. I'd love to know if there is an advanced Mac user that can help solve this issue. By preference, I have my camera save JPEG and RAW simultaneously, which means each photo gets placed on my iPods twice. Photos take up 21.6 GB, could be almost half (some videos in the photo folders). I've submitted a feature request / suggestion, but I would like to resolve this sooner than later.
I searched around, hoping to find some method on OS X of denying an application access to certain file types; haven't seen anything yet. Why is this not an issue for others? Am I really that much of an oddball for wanting both JPEG and RAW?

Thanks--the stacking approach seems to mostly work OK; not sure why I didn't think of it. IA problem though is that setting the slider for the time between shots to zero doesn't actually group shots having the same capture time--it seems to group nothing! Kind of pointless. You thus have to set the minimum time to 1s, which can put too many photos in a stack if you've been blazing away. I think I'd consider this a bug.

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