IWeb site remade in Dreamweaver - cleaner code, faster loading?

I love iWeb. But iWeb sites load slow ... and there is a LOT of messy code in there (my web experts and html whiz friends tell me this). I've tried optimizers, but found they often create odd and unpredictable glitches on individual pages. And only speed up the load process by 10%.
I'm experimenting with designing the site in iWeb, then transferring all the materials\text\graphics into Dreamweaver ... to see if this gives me a faster loading site. I wonder if I'm wasting my time?
And I'd love to know a way to have the iWeb sites load faster ...
Ben

I don't think you can pin it down to a percentage for each page. If you watch WSM as it optimizes your files you will see the saving for each file in the window - if you are quick!
I publish my websites to Mobile Me to test them and then optimize and upload them to a commercial server. The difference in download time is noticeable.
Where WSM really scores is when trying to get your website to load in IE - the World's Worst Browser.
Pages that hang and lock up IE will usually load after optimizing.
I have had the band of missing background occasionally. Usually I would just run the files again and mistakes are corrected - sometimes it takes two or three passes.
After running the files again I launch the offending page in my browser directly from the WSM output folder (by double clicking the .html file) so that I can check it before uploading again.

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Just log into your MobileMe account and go to your iDisk and delete the iWeb site that is there.
You can load your other site there by simply dropping and dragging your files for your new site to the Sites folder on your iDisk. Alternatively, MobileMe uses webdav so you can use Cyberduck to publish too.

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I have upgraded to iLife '09 seems that pages load EVEN slower than before! Especially on I.E. 6 and 7 browsers. I downloaded the trial of Maestro to see if that would help. No dice.
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Has anyone tried editing an iWeb site with Contribute or Dreamweaver?

Before iWeb, I liked using Adobe Macromedia Contribute to edit the.Mac homepages. I've been giving iWeb a spin, and it seems to occupy the same place in Apple's stable as the rest of its siblings — a pre-pubescent version of Contribute, which is a subset of Dreamweaver.
I haven't yet tried it, but it seems as if the iWeb templates would be a good starting point, and Contribute/Dreamweaver would be great tools to polish the site.
I'm still confused, though, as to what the .Mac WebDAV URLs are...that's the thing that always tripped me up. Dreamweaver 8 is a better at site management, it seems, but if anyone could post a "definitive" guide on using a third-party tool, it would be much appreciated.

yes you can use other websoftware to modify iweb sites either after it is on the webserver or if you save it to a folder before publishing.
I tried the demo of Dream weaver and it worked fine..also I used Rapidweaver which works too. Heck you could use anything that can edit HTML which is really just a text file.
The problem with iweb is it is using those stupid PNG files which are big and to make it worse it duplicates all your images rather than having them in a shared folder you can end up with dozens of the same image which when someone visits your site and changes pages it has to download the same image again!
pretty crazy stuff.
iweb looks nice and as long as people are viewing it with broadband you'd be ok but dialup users are "toast" even on a simple site.
I got the demo of rapidweaver which is not as intuiative but in someways is more complete and have done a 3 page site.. others are developing themes for it and also there are plugins which add alot of functionality.
at $35 USD it is cheap and if you go to http://www.screencastsonline.com there are 3 videos to show you how to use it and a discount code.
I personally thing iweb is great but has some design flaws that will need to be delt with.

Importing iWeb site to dreamweaver?

Is it possible to import my iWeb site to dreamweaver? I want to do this because i find that iWeb is too simplistic and i find the options are limited. To be honest all i want to do is put the website on dreamweaver and fiddle around with the HTML code and maybe do a couple of extra things. Anyway is it possible?

Publish the site to a folder and then open the published files in Dreamweaver.
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I have been exporting lightroom webgaleries to my iweb site without any problem. Suddenly I get the error message "finder can't complete the operation because some data can't be read or written" - error code -36 - thoughts?

i have been exporting lightroom web galleries to my iweb site without any problem. Suddenly I get the error message "finder can't complete the operation because some data can't be read or written" - error code -36 - and the move to the sites folder on my idisk fails..... thoughts?

Try this community: MobileMe on my Mac: MobileMe: Apple Support Communities.
And you can continue to use iWeb for some time to come. The following will explain:
It's now confirmed that iWeb and iDVD have been discontinued by Apple. This is evidenced by the fact that new Macs are shipping with iLife 11 installed but without iWeb and iDVD.
On June 30, 2012 MobileMe will be shutdown. HOWEVER, iWeb will still continue to work but without the following:
Features No Longer Available Once MobileMe is Discontinued:
◼ Password protection
◼ Blog and photo comments
◼ Blog search
◼ Hit counter
◼ MobileMe Gallery
All of these features can be replaced with 3rd party options.
I found that if I published my site to a folder on my hard drive and then uploaded with a 3rd party FTP client subscriptions to slideshows and the RSS feed were broken. If I published directly from iWeb to the FPT server those two features continued to work correctly.
There's another problem and that's with iWeb's popup slideshows. Once the MMe servers are no longer online the popup slideshow buttons will not display their images.
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However, Roddy McKay and I have figured out a way to modify existing sites with those slideshows and iWeb itself so that those images will display as expected once MobileMe servers are gone. How to is described in this tutorial: #26 - How to Modify iWeb So Popup Slideshows Will Work After MobileMe is Discontinued.
In addition the iLife suite of applications offered on disc is now a discontinued product and the remaining supported iApps will only be available thru the App Store from now on.
HOWEVER, the iLife 11 boxed version that is still currently available at the online Apple Store (Store button at the top of the page) and those copies still on the shelves of retailers will include iWeb and iDVD.

Edit iweb site in Dreamweaver

Has anyone tried to recreate an iweb site using Dreamweaver on a pc? Why would you do this? Just for the experience of learning Dreamweaver. The first hurdle is trying to find all the images which are scattered instead of located in one images subfolder.

> but I cannot figure out how to open
> the main page and start editing it.
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to modify or
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see in the site
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IWeb 1.1 does NOT optimize site for faster loading

I duplicated my iWeb site folder which at the time was 15Mb in size.
I then updated iWeb to 1.1 and exported my site to a folder without making any changes to my site. I had heard somewhere that I would see a dialogbox asking if I want to update my site for the new improved loading times in iWeb 1.1. Didn't see any of that.
Well I then looked at the newly exported folder and compared it with the old one. The old, as stated above, is 15Mb in size - the new "optimized" one is 16.3Mb
How come? Is it once again only .Mac users that will see the full benifit of this update?
Powerbook G4 1.5 Ghz, 15", 1,5Gb RAM, Radeon 9700 (128 Mb) Mac OS X (10.4.6)

I agree. I have images-as-graphics on all of my pages and in v1.1 they are still huge .png files converted from my original small .jpg files (eg .jpg original 90kb, iWeb converted .png 444kb). After downloading v1.1 I've only managed to get my site to upload once this evening to .Mac (and got the picture error message like everyone else) and now it won't publish at all. I've been experimenting with publishing to a folder and have turned off shadows, reflections, lines etc. The .jpg files are still converting to .png. The only ones that don't are the photo album thumbnails on the template photo page which stay as .jpgs.
This is horrible. I'm building a little site with iWeb for a friend who is on dial up and it's embarrasing getting him to have to wait twenty minutes everytime he looks at an update.
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IWeb sites are slow to upload. text columns turn to heavy png files

Hi!
Yes I've noticed that iweb sites for some odd reason are slower to load on any browser. No matter what the hosting is. I use Me.com for a few years and iWeb as I don't have the time or patience to bother with Dreamweaver. I use Me.com for hosting as well as another web hosting server. If there is graphic material on the page, it takes so long to open. Apple must do something about it for sure.
The program iWeb itself doesn't open up fast enough if you have more than 3 pages on it (which any normal site would have). I'm glad Apple made good changes in iWeb09, but it needs to do something about the speed of the program, the sites it makes and how it processes simple matter on it.
Even though, I have come across some good examples of iWeb made sites that are easy and relatively faster to open or they open at a normal speed. The authors also have used flash material on their iWeb sites. I have a non-registered program (web site Maestro) that claims to ease up and streamline the graphic and other heavy content on a iWeb site to make it lighter with loading.
But the unregistered version works on 70 percent files only. And I don't really notice any difference with it either. So I'm doubtful of buying the full version.
Any thoughts? Solutions? Would really appreciate.
ANOTHER ISSUE that I have discovered while making iWeb site is that a text column put on a shape after publishing turns into a heavy PNG picture file that can weight almost upto 1 whole megabyte!!!
And you keep wondering why the darn page is so slow to open!!! Cuz a simple text could've been just about 50kb. But it turns into a 900kb picture in png!!! Is there a way to change this?? I guess, taking out the picture from the published site folder and reediting it in - say - Photoshop reducing its size may help. But its so cumbersome and arduous to go into every darn folder and open all the text now converted into pics and re-edit them!! And then their reduced quality will make the text look feeble and bad quality too.
This is a problem that APPLE iWEB experts Must work on. iWeb gives a certain flexibility as its like a free flowing canvas. But then its also a known fact that iWeb sites are exceptionally heavier to open, unless you know many other tweaks here and there to make it work right. But again, this is contrary to the purpose of iWeb, cuz its made for amateur site makers.
I wish there is a work around this thing really.
ANY SUGGESTIONS FRIENDS?? WOULD LOVE TO HEAR. PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND SOLUTIONS.
Thanks.
Regards,
Nitesh

Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Shapes by their very nature are graphic elements that end up a png file whether there's text in them or not. You should try adding the text in a text box above the shape and see if there's any difference. Just be sure to use a Web Safe Font and not add any enhancements that will turn it into a image file:
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You may not notice a difference with loading with WSM but those with Internet Explorer should. Have you tested your site with and without WSM on a PC?
In WSM you can set the amount of optimizing for graphics. I've set it at about 60% (moderate) and haven't tested other settings for image quality. I'm sure a lower quality level, i.e. more compression, will have a impact on file loading. I just don't have a feel for the greatest amount of compression that will still have acceptable image quality. You'll just have to experiment.
If your site is a commercial site then using a commercial hosting server is the best option. Also, it's reported that using a Text Based Navbar instead of iWeb's java based one will help dark side compatibility.
Be sure to put in feature requests for the improvements that you see necessary to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iweb.html.
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IWeb Site import to DW - livemode problem

Hi! I´m new to Dreamweaver and I´m trying to import i site made in Apples iWeb to DW CS6. I can see the site allright using a local copy and It´s also possible to edit the code. I would like to edit the page in design mode, is it possible? I can´t get it to work. Please help if possible. Yours sincerely, Fredrik

OK thank´s for the reply!
/Fredrik
4 nov 2014 kl. 22:10 skrev Nancy O. <[email protected]>:
iWeb Site import to DW - livemode problem
created by Nancy O. in Dreamweaver support forum - View the full discussion
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Start with this 5-part tutorial:
Creating your first web site in DW CC -
https://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/learn/tutorials/how-to/first-website-part1.html
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General inquiry - Why ar .Mac and publishing/accessing iWeb sites so slow??

Greetings,
I do realize that that general topic has been addressed somehow many times, in whole or in parts. I am just shooting for a general update on the subject(s).
I have grown fond of iWeb and just renewed my .Mac subscription. I am also a user of Dreamweaver and FrontPage. I just find the iWeb/.Mac combination so straight forward and... irresistible fun to play with!
BUT, before i commit more to that environment, I need to know - again:
1. Why is .Mac/iDisk so slow in access?
2. Correspondingly, publishing to .Mac and iDisk is slow. Why, actually?
3. Difficulties in accessing iWeb sites published to .Mac/iDisk when using InternetExplorer (which, whether we want it or not, IS the predominant browser out there...). We know Firefox is better at it.
4. Ultimately, would publishing iWeb sites to other servers (I have a couple of non-iWeb websites currently hosted elsewhere) make publishing AND accessing such sites speedier?
I will appreciate any advice, input, assessment.
- Roger T

I think it's because it's more a social server with a lot of server side features available for .Mac users and iLife applications. Therefore there's a fair amount of server work when users use it for email, web sites with slideshows, backing up, etc. A commercial server will be much faster. There are othesr here that know more about servers than I and can give you a more technical explanation. But you're right, it is slow but convenient.
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Working with an iWeb site in Design view CS5

I brought in an iWeb site to Dreamweaver CS5 using the mange sites panel successfully with all assets. The site is perfect in Live Mode but is not workable in Design Mode. I have also FTP it to Business Catalyst and can see it in their design mode better than in Dreamweaver. Any assistance that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

iWeb and other so called WYSIWYG web authoring systems typically use poor code and bad layout practices which will cause experienced web developers and DW to puke.
The only thing I can suggest is to validate your code & fix reported errors or re-build the site with DW.
Code Validation Tools
CSS - http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
HTML - http://validator.w3.org/
Best of luck,
Nancy O.
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Recreating an iWeb site.

I recently purchased a new, large, faster, MacBook. I migrated all my files and cleaned the old MacBook for resale. It was then I realized my iWeb Sites did not migrate and are lost. I downloaded the site via FTP and would like to know if I can import or recreate the site on my MacBook so I can continue to update with I web?

soundsliketree ~ Welcome to the discussions.
soundsliketree wrote:
You mean I can't just drag them into the "sites" folder on my new computer?
Correct.
soundsliketree wrote:
If that is the case, then why not?
It's unnecessary for Apple to provide that import functionality when users can simply transfer iWeb's key Domain file to another computer:
_iWeb: Modifying your site from another computer_
soundsliketree wrote:
It seems like a no brainer to me.
The "no brainer" is to regularly backup your data:
_iWeb: Backing up your Domain file_
_Mac 101: Time Machine_
_SuperDuper!: Creating a fully bootable backup_.

Fonts huge in Chrome on iWeb sites

My published iWeb created site looked fine in Chrome to start, but now the fonts are screwed up in both my site and other iWeb sites. It looked like the Safari version below until today. Why?
My site: http://mygeologypage.ucdavis.edu
Screen shot from Chrome: http://mygeologypage.ucdavis.edu/sumner/temp/WebPageScrewup.jpg
Screen shot from Safari: http://mygeologypage.ucdavis.edu/sumner/temp/SafariScreenShot.jpg
Another web page from Chrome: http://mygeologypage.ucdavis.edu/sumner/temp/AnotherWebPage.jpg
I have a 13" macbook pro w/ retina screen.

I have been having the same issues as you for a long time. I've been told to switch to "internet friendly fonts" which actually made it worse. I tried cleaning out the Caches for iweb. I have taken the site down and republished. I originally had the site hosted through mobile me, now its hosed on Go Daddy and I had the same problem on both. I have tried many computers both mac/PC and multiple browsers. Sometimes it looks ok and sometimes it looks unreadable. It could look good one day and then the next day on the same computer/browser look unrecognizable. I have been reading postings in many different forums and no one has had a suggestion that has worked.
I would love to find a solution to this problem. I am a video/motion graphics guy, not a web guy, so I really don't want to have to move from a user friendly program like this, to a program like dreamweaver.
If any one has a real solution please advise me and dysumner!!!
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