IWorks: no small caps can be activated

Hi there, I wonder why so far no body has picked up or discussed a serious bug in iWorks that is: that no true small caps from opentype fonts can be activated via the typography panel within Mountain Lion. The problem exists with Pages 4.2., Numbers 2.2., and Keynote 5.2. Its also impossible to install the former version of Pages, 4.1., under Mountain Lion, where this function still worked. There are also problem with the kerning. Opentype fonts who have kerning like Fakt from Ourtype have no kerning in iWork products but they have it in TextEdit. Within TextEdit those problem don't exist.
I reported these problems to https://bugreport.apple.com/ but no response so far.

Sorry for the spelling and grammar errors, here again the topic:
There seems to be a serious bug within Pages 4.2. If you open the typography panel and activate the small caps feature of opentype fonts though you can click the check-box Pages does not transform the marked text into small caps. So this opentype feature (small caps) doesn't function under Pages any more.
I experienced also kerning problems within Pages 4.2 using the word "Test". There is no kerning between T and e using the Fakt font from Ourtype. (There was never every any issue with this under Leopard or Lion!)
The same problems don't occur in TextEdit under Mountain Lion, so it seems to be a sole Pages 4.2. problem under Mountain Lion.
I reported it to the Apple Bug Reporter (no reply so far) but would be interested what you guys think about this and if you experience the same problems?

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I use a lot Pages for texts, flyers and posters. There seems to be a serious bug within Pages 4.2. if you open the typo panel and activate the Small Caps feature or Opentype fonts they though they can be clicked Pages does not transform the marked text into Small Caps. So the this opentype feature doesn't finction under Pages any more. I experienced also kerning problems within Pages 4.2 using the word "Test". There is no kerning between T and e using the Fakt font from Ourtype. The same problems don't occur in TextEdit and the same problems never occured under Leopard or Lion, so it seems to be a sole Pages 4.2. problem under Mountain Lion. I reported it to the Apple Bug Reporter (no reply so far) but would be interested what you guys think of it and if you experience the same problems?

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I reported it to the Apple Bug Reporter (no reply so far) but would be interested what you guys think about this and if you experience the same problems?

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Just curious...
In every other Adobe program you can control the "ratio" of the small caps function by percentage. (The small cap is 80% of the large cap, etc)
I'm not seeing where I can adjust this vital setting in Photoshop, any version.
Help appreciated.

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ed: warp text is a bust. Maybe you're just better off making your own small caps...
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I have just un-installed the Office 2013 Preview, and installed the Office 2013 RTM 60-day trial.
I had hoped that between the two versions, the issue of missing true small caps in Word had been addressed. But no. Whilst Word 2013 supports OpenType ligatures and OpenType stylistic sets and OpenType old-style numbers and and and, it STILL DOES NOT SUPPORT
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It's a never ending battle, this trying to get some sense out of computers. In a post earlier this year (http://forums.adobe.com/message/1287805#12878) I asked how to overcome the lack of proper small caps in Helvetica. Sandee came back with a suggestion, which I followed up, and it seemed to give reasonable results. And within InDesign, and when printed, it works.
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QUES 1
Is it possible to make my mock small caps display acceptably on the screen within a PDF? I have tried exporting to PDF at various resolutions, and with optimize for web turned on and off, but that makes no difference.
QUES 2
Another option is to get hold of a Helvetica font (or similar) that does have small caps. Where could I get hold of one of those?
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Thanks for the responses. I'm surprised the PDF looked okay, so I've emailed it to half a dozen people to see how it looks on their system. Maybe it's my screen or my Adobe Reader that's at fault.
I have attached two screen captures of what it look like on my screen. One at 100%, the other at 200%.
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a script: http://jsid.blogspot.com/2005/09/script-of-day-changing-case-again.html
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Small caps - is there a way to change size ratio of lower to upper case?

I am using Adobe InDesign CS4 and one problem I've had is that when I select Small Caps on the character styles panel, lower case characters are about 60% the size of upper case characters. I'd like this to be more around 80% in my document.
I don't see a way to do this, so I'm having to avoid using Small Caps and am having to select various portions of each word and set them to different sizes.
Is there a setting I am missing for Small Caps that would save me this trouble? My typeface is Minion so I may also see if there's a variant available that uses well-crafted small caps.
Tim

Dave,
>.. adjust the size of the "lowercase" characters by using a GREP style
Yes ... and no.
It doesn't have to be an extremely complicated GREP style. You mention Unicode ranges, but it's not even necessary. You could try
>[a-z]
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>\l
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i every
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>[[:lower:]]
As this seems to work just the way you want, then why the "No"? The GREP style will be applied to
i all
lowercase characters in the paragraph, not just to the words you wanted.
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i force
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and
i after
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>~-\l+~-
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Problem with Small Caps

I have a problem with small caps when using Times New Roman and Helvetica, but not when using Adobe Garamond Pro, and would like to find out why.
I generate the small caps within InDesign by the "TT" box in the Control Window. Adobe Garamond comes up with beautiful small caps that blend in with the surrounding text. When I do the same with Helvetica, the small caps, especially if they have normal caps amongst them, are quite inelegant looking because of different letter widths.
So I did some experiments with half a dozen other serif and sans-serif fonts and none of them were as elegant as Adobe Garamond Pro. For a sample of what I mean, download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z5fm0zndmzm
which compares three fonts: Adobe Garmond, Heletica, and Times New Roman.
Unfortunately, I did not pick up this problem until I received my first proof from the printers, and now I will have to change all the Helvetica small caps to normal caps, as I can see no other way of overcoming this inelegancy.
I checked in New Scientist magazine (it uses a serif and sans-serif font throughout, and what I thought I remembered as small caps to begin their stories) to see what they do, but they actually use caps instead of small-caps at the beginning of stories.
Three questions:
Q1: Is the way I generate small caps the correct way?
Q2: Is there something wrong with my Helvetica and Times New Roman fonts?
Q3: Could it be that only Adobe Garamond has an internal, properly designed small caps?
I have checked the attributes of the fonts: Garamond is Open Type Postscript, Helvetica is PostScript Type 1 , and Times New Roman is TrueType.
Any comments most appreciated.

Thanks for the hints. I tried Scott's method and it works with a bit of extra adjustment. The settings I obtained for 12 point Helvetica were:
Horizontal and vertical scaling: 70.5%;
Stroke: 0.1 pt
Tracking: +25 em
Baseline shift: +0.1 pt
The steps to obtain small-caps 12 pt Helvetica are:
Step 1: Type text as normal.
Step 2: Select only the lower-case text you want to convert to small caps. i.e if what is to become small caps already has a capital (such as a place name) do not apply the settings to the capitals, unless that's the effect you want.
Step 3: Apply the above settings manually or via or Character Style.
Problem 1: How do I rid my Character Style of the font size so that only the scaling factors remain? As it is, if I want to apply small-caps to a different font size than the one I have set up, I have to manually change the font size after applying the style.
Problem 2: The scaling factors do not appear to work for changes in font size. When I used 24 pt and applied the above settings, the small-caps were too thin. The method only really works for a particular size, which in reality is all you would normally require.

Small caps stuck ON?

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thanks, guys, i think i found the solution. i clicked on the text tool, then right-clicked over the first tile on the text tool bar (it has a capital "t" on it). a menu popped up with "reset tool" as one of the options. i clicked that option and it seems to be working properly now. not sure how i toggled to small caps to begin with, but my main problem seems to be solved now. thanks again for your suggestions.

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Hello friends
I am using Indesign CS2. I've finished formatting my book and tried to export it to PDF.
It has all worked beautifully, with one snag: every font that was in small caps has displayed as squares.
If I change the style from small caps to "normal" or "all caps" then it displays in PDF correctly, even though it is the same font, same size etc.
Thing is, I really want to use small caps to differentiate my chapter headings as I think it looks stylish.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Helena

Hi Peter
I've removed all the small caps and replaced them with all caps in a different font. It looks fine. Problem solved!
There is something even more pressing on me now --- Indesign is refusing to change a style.
The footnotes text is too small, so I want to change it up from 8pt to 9pt.
OK easy, I hear you say! Just go to paragraph styles> footnote> edit style> change the font size from 8 to 9. Well I did that 3 hours ago and have been fighting with it ever since.
Now I am going to have to highlight each and every one of the 650 footnotes and apply 10pt to them. If I had known 3 hrs ago that I was going to spend 3 hours fiddling, I would have spent that time changing the footnotes one by one.

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