Jabber and iChat

Hi All
A question re iChat and Jabber accounts. I assume that when one has a conversation between two Jabber accounts using the iChat interface that it is using the Jabber protocol (XMPP) and not the AIM protocol. Is my understanding correct? If am I correct, has anyone noticed whether the Jabber protocol is more successful at completing calls (audio or video) between Macs and Windows PCs? Is Gmail Jabber still intra-Gmail only?
Cheers
Steve

Ok. So if I only have a Google Talk Jabber account I can't open gateways anyway. Understood - it's on its way. And we're not sure about Mac to PC over Jabber. iChat still controls the Jabber XMPP call leading to reduced quality than potentially possible.
BTW I think iChat gets itself in a real mess if you flick between using AIM video and Jabber video. As I noted in another thread I had a Mac-Mac AIM call with a friend and then we tried Jabber each using the iChat interface. The Jabber call seemed about the same quality - again with the iChat interface making poor use of bandwidth. When we tried to go back to an AIM video call we could not complete initially because I "failed to respond" and then, after we each deactivated the Jabber accounts, the AIM conversation simply got stuck at "starting".
So far I see the following with iChat:
1. Mac to Mac: poor use of available bandwidth leading to sub quality calls vs what could be achieved if available bandwidth were utilised.
2. Poor integration of Jabber. Simply not well thought out (two windows instead of one etc) and badly executed (iChat gets tied in knots).
3. Almost impossible Mac to PC audio/video communication.
Are you listening yet Apple?

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