Java + Safari causes page to 'flash' (i.e. reload even cached images)

Does anyone know if this is able to be corrected or at least why this occurs?
For Safari 4 beta when Java is active my site http://www.theimagecache.com 'flashes' a lot (i.e.reloads even cached images). Whereas with Java disabled this does not happen and the pages load considerably more quickly.
I hadn't noticed this before in Safari 3+... but then again... I usually had Java turned off for security reasons so it may have existed then as well.
But in Firefox 3.1b3, even with Java turned on the pages load very slightly more slowly (i.e. literally only about a fraction of a second more slowly... which is understandable) but they do not 'flash' (i.e. reload cached images).
Any ideas as to if this can be corrected so viewers that have Java on by default and are using Safari do not see all of this flashing and slower loading?
Thanks for any input.
Ron

Thanks Michael for posting.
Yes... this Safari beta may be the problem, because even after the images have been cached often many of the images on a new page (that have already been cached) reload.
Whereas in Firefox 3.1b3 (beta) this does not happen.
Hopefully they'll get this fixed.
Thanks again.
Hope things are going well for you there in Sweden, considering all of the world economic problems.

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