Java System Copy tool

Hi,
We have an ECC6 on NW 7 landscape and require a tool to copy system data across 2 SAP systems. I have come across this Java System Copy Tool. I have downloaded the packages:-
Time analyzer
Package Splitter
Migration monitor
OraBRcopy
read the various documents that came with it and i just wanted to know that does this need to be run with SAPinst or can these need to be run individually? seems a bit confusing as there is no a straight forward document to read. I have read the Oracle Parameters that need to be set so that is one thing to discuss with my team.
We have a very big database and i wanted to ask if someone out there has used this that how long did it take migrating your database and under what conditions i.e. was database shutdown, done when system least used, etc?
It seems that Migration Monitor does the job of exporting and importing the packages but i am not sure how Package splitter or time analyzer fits into this?
OraBRcopy is the same as using R3COPY so that is no problem for me but just these inidividual tools i need help understanding.
Your help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Mani

> We use the database copy procedure and apply redo logs after to a level the apps poeple want it, but recovery takes a long time and it requires lengthy file checks as some are missing so we were investigating alternative methods available one of which was this SAP tool.
You never do full backups?
> My understanding of what you are saying and please correct me if i am wrong.. is that sapinst can copy either java content (assume you mean the java database schema??) or ABAP schema or both. export the java contents and continue using the normal database copy/redo logs method?
Yes. You would
- take a backup of the source database
- execute "sapinst", select system copy and select, that you're doing a "backup/restore" procedure
- sapinst will put all the Java parts together and create a dump of it
- you start sapinst on the target system, select system copy and that you're doing a "backup/restore" procedure
- sapinst will install SCS/CI and stop then asking you to recover the database
- sapinst will continue and setup the Java part
What you encounter is one of the major drawbacks when using DualStack instances. I would, if it's possible, separate the two instances so you can copy them independently of each other.
Markus

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>
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