JavaHelp or OracleHelp??

Hi
I am currently investigating the relative of merits of the Javahelp and the
OracleHelp viewers. I leaning towards to the Oracle viewer, it supports
greater functionality and looks less archaic than JavaHelp.
Please can I have some thoughts on which viewer to use?
Also, which viewer takes up less bandwidth and how would I go about
reducing the amount of bandwidth the help files take up ?
Any thoughts and comments are gratefully received.
Regards
Michelle.

A fellow named Peter Grainge has a very helpful site; click on this link and read the JavaHelp topic. He discusses JavaHelp vs Oracle Help a bit here.
http://www.grainge.org/index.htm#authoring/authoring.htm

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Thanks, Dan
Edited by: dlamet on Jan 8, 2010 5:40 PM

AndrewThompson64
Thanks for the quick response. I downloaded your app (very good idea BTW!) and ran it against my JNLP file. It reported a number of issues to me, but I don't understand them. I subsequently located the JNLP spec 6.0.10 here and went through it carefully. (I ended up discovering some nice features I added to my file.) I ended up with the following file, but the errors seem to be the same. The output is below the JNLP.
Is it possible that your app is analyzing against an outdated version of the JNLP spec? It's all that I can figure. Perhaps you could explain just one or two of the node errors to get me started. Thanks again! Dan
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