JBOD to RAID 10 - ORLM question

i have a 2 disk JBOD that i would like to migrate to a RAID 10.
ORLM (Online Raid Level Migration) permits this, even under I/O load. But the manual that came with my controller, has me confused.
First the text, then my question;
+If you want to migrate a JBOD array to another RAID level, only the first member disk can be included in the target array. For example, a JBOD comprised of 3 disks (1,2,3), can only be "migrated" using disk 1. Disks 2 and 3 cannot be used - disk 1 would have to be combined with other disks attached to the RAID card.+
Q) now what happens then if there is information on both JBOD disks and only disk 1 migrates?
So in my case, i have disks 1 and 2.
i create a R10, by adding new disks 3,4,5 to disk 1. Right? to create R10 1,3-4,5.
what happens to the data on disk 2?

Bear with me on this one! I've avoided RAID for long enough and I'm needing some advice. I have a number of Dell R710 servers with PERC H700 controllers. With the exception of one server which is an R720, all have a capacity of 8 SAS drives (with the oddball having a capacity of 16). Most of these were configured with RAID 5 just before my arrival at the organization. With some new 600GB drive purchases this month, I plan on moving all our servers to a RAID 10 config. So my question is about spans and how to arrange them across connectors (is that the right terminology?). So if I have 8 drives, with 0-4 being on connector 1, and 5-7 being on connector 2, and assuming 2 disk per span, would the correct way to arrange each span look like the screenshot below? That would reduce the likelihood of data loss due to a bad cable right? I'd...
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