Jdev 10.1.3 ADF & jdk5.x support and toystore demo

Any target date for ADF support in 10.1.3? I need to learn ADF and was going to use 10.1.3. The below imports, among others, are unresolved. These are ADF right?
Also, any jdk5.0 support date? My system Must be on 5.0 and stay on 5.0
import oracle.jbo.AttrValException;
import oracle.jbo.DMLException;
import oracle.jbo.JboException;
import oracle.jbo.RowNotFoundException;
import oracle.jbo.common.TransPostControl;
import oracle.jbo.html.BC4JContext;

See this blog posting...
http://radio.weblogs.com/0118231/2004/12/06.html#a451
The first 10.1.3 developer preview does not yet include any ADF functionality...

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JDeveloper, ADF, lack of support and bleak future

Hi,
I'm a seasoned Java and .NET developer, used to many environments and frameworks. A happy user of Oracle databases.
For a very Oracle oriented client I started with a team of developer a project using JDeveloper (no choice). After 4 months of using JDeveloper, ADF to build web sites, here are some thoughts I would like to share. This remarks only focus on that products, because I have a lot of respect for the Oracle databases and had a lot of success with them.
I am starting to get depressed about the very few blogs (most from Oracle) talking about JDeveloper and ADF, the lack of books, and the Oracle forums.
Moreover, most of the time you never get an answer to your problems, sometimes untested not working 'solutions', and a very very few times a working solution. Help is sparse, the community is missing.
If Oracle wants to promote its framework, it has to boost the number of tutorials, examples and support.
Googling about ADF is most of the time a non sense since you always land on the same 3 blogs and the Oracle forums.
Proof of non use by the community ?
If you try on www.indeed.com to find statistics about JDeveloper or ADF jobs you get another frightening proof.
Sometimes you find a piece of code or a tutorial that may help, but you realize it works only on some specific release of JDeveloper.
What makes me angry is when you ask why your code works on the x.x.x.x version but not the newest version, and the only answer you get is stay with x.x.x.x version (I won't bother to fix your 10 lines or code or even give you a direction to do it (maybe coz I don't understand myself were the breaking changes are)).
JDeveloper is damn too slow ? You should have a dual-core and at least 2 Go of memory, you poor thing ! Is Java for rich people ?
Debuging is a nightmare. Compared to Eclipse or others it is not practical at all.
I'm happy when I can create a few pages drag and dropping controls. Business components are also a good thing. It speeds up my development. But since development is not just UI and generating business components, I lose a lot of time every time I want to write code, every time I do something "exotic" it becomes a pain in the ass.
My problem here is that the architecture and JDeveloper constraint the developer a lot. I don't even talk about the fact that everything is only Oracle database oriented (openess ?). Even changing your page layout is a pain. Positioning controls is non trivial. As a whole, I would say that this whole thing imposes you to adapt to it, it doesn't adapt to you and your way of working.
Most results I saw look like the Oracle websites.
I could go on about the various bugs and problems that plague JDeveloper. Like the refactoring (when usable) that leave old and annoying stuff in your model XML, like the bugs in the diagrams, like problems related to auto-binding on the page and manually changing controls ID, various synchronization problems between pages and backing beans, adding upload is a mess, OrdDomain types are buggy, regions doesn't work well in the designer, and so on...
My point is that I feel the whole thing is not mature. And Oracle seems to fix some issues with the release of JHeadStart. Sometimes you fix things by integrating JHeadStart stuff. JHeadStart is probably a great thing and a time saver if you don't do too much "exotic" screens and code, but does it means that JDeveloper+ADF and classic development becomes a second class citizen ?
This is sad, since the ADF framework and JDeveloper look good and are worth of a more widespread usage. But marketing and support are way way far behind other commercial and open-source solutions. When I see what is planned for JDeveloper 11 and I compare it to others (Java or not). When I look at the developers needs and expectations, I feel we are losing the race.
Maybe Oracle would like to hand over some of the framework to the community, but my feeling is that the community is already commited on other exciting and less constraining frameworks and tool, and this community may well work in a way that doesn't fit Oracle vision. Future will tell.
Cheers.

Hi,
thanks for the detailed comment. I appreciate the time you spent writing this up as this helps to improve the product. Below is a first - quick and brief response to some of your statements.
... for documentation and tutorials
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/adf/learnadf.html
Especially the ADF Developer Guide for 4 GL developers earns a lot of praise among J2EE developers.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/html/B25947_01/toc.htm
... for books
http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/jsf.html
Sometimes you find a piece of code or a tutorial that may help, but you realize it works only on some specific release of JDeveloper. What makes me angry is when you ask why your code works on the x.x.x.x version but not the newest version, and the only answer you get is stay with x.x.x.x version
Of course samples need to be created to some point in time with a specific version. We have SRDemo as our main - maintained - reference demo I suggest you download this sample from OTN using help--> check for updates. Note that SRDemo contains code solutions for most developer cases and also is available in 10.1.3.1
I'm happy when I can create a few pages drag and dropping controls. Business components are also a good thing. It speeds up my development. But since development is not just UI and generating business components, I lose a lot of time every time I want to write code, every time I do something "exotic" it becomes a pain in the ***.
What is exotic, and what are the questions you didn't get an answer for ? I see that this is your first posting on OTN, so I am wondering under which account you posted the other questions that did not get an answer.
Googling about ADF is most of the time a non sense since you always land on the same 3 blogs and the Oracle forums. Proof of non use by the community ?
Isn't OTN a community ? I don't think that we need another discussion forum and looking at OTN it appears very active.
I don't even talk about the fact that everything is only Oracle database oriented (openess ?).
Not true. Please prove your claim.
Even changing your page layout is a pain. Positioning controls is non trivial. As a whole, I would say that this whole thing imposes you to adapt to it, it doesn't adapt to you and your way of working. Most results I saw look like the Oracle websites.
Now you are barking up the wrong tree, blaming ADF for what is JavaServer Faces layouting. You don't have to use JSF but can go for JSP /Struts and/or Swing development. What is the view layer technology of your choice that allows you to do better layouting ?
I could go on about the various bugs and problems that plague JDeveloper
Yes, please post them all
... regions doesn't work well in the designer, and so on...
Of course, because regions are not officially supported. JDeveloper 11 - I know you don't want to hear future - will have full templating (going far beyound of what facelets do) and region support
My point is that I feel the whole thing is not mature. And Oracle seems to fix some issues with the release of JHeadStart.
JHeadstart is a consulting offering and not meant to fix the product.
... but does it means that JDeveloper+ADF and classic development becomes a second class citizen ?
No comment for this statement as it is based on a wrong observation
This is sad, since the ADF framework and JDeveloper look good and are worth of a more widespread usage. But marketing and support are way way far behind other commercial and open-source solutions. When I see what is planned for JDeveloper 11 and I compare it to others (Java or not).
Note that only a fraction of new features in JDeveloper 11 leaked out so far or have been mentioned in the recent statement of direction. JDeveloper has many more features that we don't yet promote because the software isn't available.
Please note that we give ADF to the community. Its just we are not giving it to the open soutce community but the J2EE community (JSR-227)
Frank

ADF Faces RC browser support and browser market share

hi
Given the current browser support in JDeveloper 11g (ADF (Faces RC)), for IE 7.0 (not IE 6), FF 2.0, FF 3.0, ...
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12839_01/install.1111/e13666/OJDIG.htm#BDCJBGBC
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/jdeveloper11gfaq.html#P0
(Why Oracle has chosen to do so has been discussed before, in threads ADF 11g: Browser support for Internet Explorer 6, Browser certificaion clarification JDev 11gr1, ...)
Given some information available online about browser market share ...
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=3
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
http://www.thecounter.com/stats/
... it looks like about 20 to 30 percent is still Internet Explorer 6 (which is not supported by ADF Faces Rich Client components).
Which role should this play in a decision to choose for ADF Faces Rich Client components to build an internet application today?
Maybe some can share their experience in making such choice.
many thanks
Jan Vervecken

Hi Jan,
(e1) That's a really good example, but the deciding point is different than browser version imho.
In that example, the hospital control its technological infrastructure so I would say it's safe to ask the users to upgrade as the hospital team is actually going to do it. In this case it depends if the hospital itself is willing to upgrade its apps, not the users. However, the patients are a special kind of users of which at least a small amount will be physically disabled to some point so you'll have to evaluate the accessibility potential of ADF Faces RC and, as most rich libraries, it's not that awesome. So, in that example, I think you would have to use pure Trinidad instead as its accessibility support is a bit better or at least reduce the usage of rich features in RC (like no drag-drop since it's a nightmare for both blind and mobility reduced users).
(e2) imho, no it wouldn't be safe to use RC if the target date is within 1 year since you don't control the user base in that example and not supporting a browser might cut your customer base and thus reduce your revenue.
Regards,
~ Simon

Maximum Number of Columns that adf table can support in JDeveloper 10.1.3.1

Hi All,
I'm using Toplink 10.1.3.1 . In JDeveloper 10.1.3.1 .
I'm Trying to display the columns of a table which is having the more than 380 columns.
When I'm trying to display the columns in adf table, it is getting hanged. The console of the displaying that "too long".
If Execute the Application with nearly 50 columns, It is working fine.
what is the Maximum number of columns that adf table can support. Is there any other solution for my problem.
could anyone help me out.
Thanks in advance,
regards,
Satish

Hi,
I am not sure there exist a limitation in columns and if the application hangs then this probably is a bug either in the business service or the view (which can also be due to that the server runs out of memory because of the created object instances).
However, in my opinion a table with 380 columns is a loud cry for denormalization
Frank

ADF Faces: is mixing JSF RI and ADF Faces tags supported?

Hi,
I'm looking at ADF Faces as a future possibility for our application that is currently based on JSF RI.
When looking at the ADF Faces demo it strikes me that all pages are almost completely built up from ADF Faces tags.
For instance
af:form
af:commandButton
af:inputText
are used instead of the equivalent core jsf tags f:form, f:commandButton and f:inputText
I'm wondering if this is mandatory if we would like to use some ADF Faces components mixed within our existing application.
In other words: are ADF Faces tags supported in the environment of conventional JSF tags? And mixing ADF Faces JSF components with JSF components by other vendors?
Another thing that strikes me is that pages are constructed using ADF Faces tags for any and all markup content.
I guess this is meant to support several different clients (normal browser applications, mobile clients, voice activation over telephone) using different renderers.
In my experience abstracting markup this way inherently means loss of control over the exact markup that is sent to the client. This is not acceptable for all projects and customers.
Is embedding ADF Faces tags within template HTML, within f:verbatim tags or not, supported?
Regards,
Joost de Vries

You absolutely can mix JSF RI and ADF Faces tags. This is very much supported! You can swap in <h:form> and <h:commandButton> and <h:inputText>. Our versions support some features that the JSF tags do not, as described in our release notes.
Your point about using tags to produce all markup is a very cogent one. For some projects, absolute control over HTML will be a necessary requirement, so we do support that style of development. But we believe strongly that the future does not lie in constant handcoding of HTML, but instead in building more powerful, flexible, and reusable components and assembling those into pages. This was one of the themes of a talk I gave with two coworkers at this past JavaOne.
-- Adam Winer (JSF EG member and ADF Faces lead)

I tried to sync my iPod touch to a new laptop and it deleted all of my music and videos. I called tech support and they told me to email iTunes and they would give it back to me. How do I do this??

I tried to sync my iPod touch to a new MacPro laptop and it deleted all of my music and videos. I called tech support and they told me to email iTunes and they would give it back to me. How do I do this??

Correct. When you update via iTunes all synced media that is not in your iTunes library will be lost.
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Downloading past purchases from the App Store, iBookstore, and iTunes Store
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HT4623 When I plug my ipad to itunes i get the error message that it is not supported and I have to go to itunes and get itunes re-installed? i never had this problem before. if i do this will i loose all my files, music, etc?

When I plug me ipad to itunes i get the error message that it is not supported and that i have to go to itunes and get "itunes installer" and re-install. if i do this will i loose my files and music?

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Worst customer support and website in the world!

I have had bad service from businesses here and there, but Verizon home phone service (which I am forced to use in this location) has amazingly bad customer support and a website from hell!
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HT1725 For about three weeks I haven't been able to download any apps, not even the free ones. My apple id billing information says that my security code on the back of my credit card is invalid. I called apple support and they told me to go to the expr

For about three weeks I haven't been able to download any apps, not even the free ones. My apple id billing information says that my security code on the back of my credit card is invalid. I called apple support and they told me to go to the express lane website but I still cant find a fix for my problem. If you could help me out that would be superb!!!!

Is the address on your iTunes account exactly the same (format and spacing etc) as on your credit card bill : http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1646 ? If it is then you could try what it says at the bottom of that page :
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I bought a song on ITUNES and had problems downloading it. I got in touch with support and and they downloaded the song to my account but now when I try to play it, it tells me my computer isn't authorized to . Reauthorizing computer doesn't work. HELP

I bought a song in ITUNES and had problem downloading it. I contacted support and they downloaded the song for me. Now when I try to play the song, I get a message saying my computer isn't authorized to play it. I try reauthorizing but that doesn't work, just keep getting the same message. Can anyone help?

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Is there a way to actually open a ticket with BB support and get an answer?

Ok, so I haven't been here long, and only a few times, yet I see a lot of posts with no actual answer, or help, or information on specific problems. I am having trouble, created a post, and there are no responses. Does BB actually have a support team, or trouble ticket process, or is this the only avenue?
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I purchased an iMac MC 309LL/A model A1311 21.5" All in one computer on 8/28/11. The computer stated to shut down on me every once in a while when I was working on it. I called Apple customer support and a rep walked me through deleting all of my cache files saying it was the prooblem. She then had me do a re-install with the installation disc. After doing that she said to turn my computer off then back on and the computer would want to run some updates an to let them run. I was told to call back if there were anymore problems. The computer turned on for a couple minutes then shut down again and won't turn back on at all now. I took it to the Apple store and they told me it was the main board that delivers power to the computer and it whoulld cost about $550 to replace. I have had this computer for 1 1/6 year and hardly use it. My tech told me the same thing happened to his. Doesn't this mean the equipment could be faulty?
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I am trying to update my itunes and iphone. Everytime I trie comes out a message about 'key access'. I've done all the steps from the support and nothing worked out. I cannot unistall and now I can't open it anymore also. What should i do, please?

I am trying to update my itunes and iphone. Everytime I trie comes out a message about 'key access'. I've done all the steps from the support and nothing worked out. I cannot unistall and now I can't open it anymore also. What should i do, please?

Isn't that only used when a PC will not boot?
What options does booting with this give me?
Thanks
JK MCP
Hi,
USB recovery disk was used to recover your system when it encounter problem. You can try to use it to fix your problem instead reinstall system. However, there is no method to keep your program whenreinstall system.
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How to close a frozen warning: I am unable to close the "charicter boarders aren't supported and were removed" warning on my pages. Untill warning is closed I can not save my document. How can I get my document saved?

I have an unsaved document open in pages but can not save it because the, "charicter boarders aren't supported and were removed" warning is open and I can not close the warning. How can i get the warning to close so I can save my document? Can I save the document without closing the warning?

Probably not, but as you will have been unable to make any changes to the document with that warning window open, you're not going to lose anything by quitting (or force quitting) without saving. You'll still have the original document you were trying to import.
I would suggest attempting to open the document in one of the open source Office applications, LibreOffice, Apache OpenOffice, or NeoOffice, each available for download from the linked sites. Once open there, remove the attributes that are causing the warning, save the file (as an MS Word document), then try opening that version in Pages.
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