JDeveloper and Designer 6i Repository

I don't understand the reasoning behind the need to install Designer 6i in order to use JDeveloper in a 6i repository. If the repository you're using is remote (on a server vs local PC), and you won't be doing any work using Designer, why should you need to take up the space on your PC to install it?

As John correctly states, various things you might need to do as a developer (create workareas, create / merge branches) are only currently possible through the RON. In addition, we invoke other tools such as the Dependency Manager which are part of the Repository client install.
However, you don't have to install the whole of Designer. This is a bit confusing since Designer and Repository are still packaged together in the same installer and Repository is still not being properly marketed as a fully separate product (which it is). Early on during installation of "Designer", you will be prompted whether you want to install the whole of Designer or just Repository. For SCM in JDeveloper to work, you only need the Repository client side.
We're working on making the integration between JDeveloper and Repository tighter in a future release so that it is no longer necessary to install Repository client side.

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