Jerky Ken Burns when burning to DVD

Hi all - tried finding an answer to this but not much luck - anyway the problem is I made a simple movie in imovie 08 using only photos, music and Ken Burns effect on some pics. the presentation runs smooth as silk on my iMac 24" - so then I try burning the movie to DVD using iDVD. I slot the DVD in a player and it looks very average. The picture resolution is low - should I export to a higher level of resolution? Then the Ken Burns effect is jerky - not massively but still not smooth. Please help I really want to be able to export/burn movies that look great and run smooth but can't find out how to do this,
thanks in advance
Rob

I have the same problem. Ken Burns looks good on the computer but real jerky on the DVD using iMovie 8.

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Jerky Ken Burns effect

I am using iMovie 10 on a mac desktop with all the latest software. In some photos in my 4 min video, the Ken Burns effect is jerky, even after sharing the video to a .mp4 file. The photos are of good quality and resolution (I use iPhoto). Is there a way to smooth the zoom effect?
I made a sample clip (5.7MB) but can't post it here, apparently.

Even though my stomach turns when people call a move on a still "The Ken Burns Effect," I'm going to supress my revulsion and try to assist.
The blurriness MIGHT come from a pref "Default Scale to Frame Size, which makes the scaling on all your imported / placed images 100%. This is a defect in the way Pr was built, IMO. There's no good reason for Pr to think a huge photo is 100% scaled, just because it fits nicely in a Comp view. It misleads users into thinking they're out of resolution, when they're not. So, my first suggestion is to turn off that pref (uner General) and see the difference that makes when you know exactly how much resolution you have to deal with. Then, don't go over 100%.
I can't envision the jerkiness you're describing. It could be an interlace issue, from how you describe it. If that's the case, render progressive.

Jerky ken burns zoom

i made slide show in iphoto, used some custom ken burns, then when imported to idvd6, the zooms sometimes are jerky when previwed in idvd; also, what i see on the preview in slide show i photo isnt always what ends up happening........

When you empty the iMovie 6 Trash, there's a bug that (inappropriately) discards the copy of the source image iMovie stores inside the project. That makes it impossible to Update the clip later. When you try, that turns the clip black.
Lots more here, with some workarounds:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=392740&tstart=0
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IPhoto slideshow export -- jerky Ken Burns rendering

Have an iPhoto slideshow of 25 pictures. On some, I used Ken Burns effect to zoom in, out, etc.
When I export, the result is a .mov file. Everything looks great when I play it on Quicktime, except for some of the photos on which I had used Ken Burns (meaning there's motion). The bad ones don't render properly, and are "jerky" for lack of a more technical word. They get stuck for a couple of seconds, jump forward, get stuck again, etc.
Amazing thing is that I did an export out of Quicktime using Sorenson3, and that seems to have smoothed everything out in a nice way. Result is a movie with no jerkiness, and everything works right.
Two questions:
1) Can I count on the Sorenson3 export method to fix the jerkiness for three other iPhoto slideshow-based movies I'll need to generate, or was this a one-time fluke that Sorenson3 fixed this movie? In other words, is there a principle behind the fix that makes sense and can be counted on?
2) What caused the jerkiness in the first place? Is there something I can do so the original output from iPhoto on Ken Burns photos isn't jerky?
Thanks for any insights.
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Kirk,
Did what you suggested, with some tweaks, and it's working nicely. Exported at 3MB/sec -- 2MB didn't render well enough. Tried MPEG-4, and then Sorenson again, and actually the Sorenson worked better for some reason.
So thanks, and now I have one follow up question: My next step is to convert the file to .wmv format so it plays on Windows Media Player. Must do this for a project at work -- where people are on PCs using WMP.
I purchsed Flip4Mac a while ago for this purpose, and that's what I intend to use. Can I simply convert the file exactly as is to .wmv -- keeping all the goodness of the settings that are now working? Will this be an export of an export that will damage the quality of the result?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Mac OS X (10.4.8)

IPhoto slideshow export -- Ken Burns "jerkiness" on playback

Have an iPhoto slideshow of 25 pictures. On some, I used Ken Burns effect to zoom in, out, etc.
When I export, the result is a .mov file. Everything looks great when I play it on Quicktime, except for some of the photos on which I had used Ken Burns (meaning there's motion). The bad ones don't render properly, and are "jerky" for lack of a more technical word. They get stuck for a couple of seconds, jump forward, get stuck again, etc.
Amazing thing is that I did an export out of Quicktime using Sorenson3, and that seems to have smoothed everything out in a nice way. Result is a movie with no jerkiness, and everything works right.
Two questions:
1) Can I count on the Sorenson3 export method to fix the jerkiness for three other iPhoto slideshow-based movies I'll need to generate, or was this a one-time fluke that Sorenson3 fixed this movie? In other words, is there a principle behind the fix that makes sense and can be counted on?
2) What caused the jerkiness in the first place? Is there something I can do so the original output from iPhoto on Ken Burns photos isn't jerky?
Thanks for any insights.

the audio associated with that set of photos was a piece of music off of an audio CD that had been transferred to iTunes for the purpose of making this section in the DVD. It's not a big problem that the music didn't transfer, since I can add it back into FCX. Thank you so much for your concern and help. This was a very key bit of info that you provided me. Thanks again. bill

When I burn a dvd I get wave on items that have lines in the pictures

When I burn a dvd in imovie any stills I have that have lines on things like a shirt start to wave.

that's because the Ken Burns effect (zoom in/out) will play havoc on some colors, stripes, or other designs. You can minimize it by minimizing the effect, but unless you were to invest in professional software, I don't believe you can get rid of it altogether. It can even happen on TV - a reporter wears something that will not show well especially if he moves around and you will get some strange effects.

Bad quality with ken burns slideshows on DVD

I've created several movies from still images using iMovie 08 (7.1.2) and its Ken Burns effect. The preview in iMovie looks really great and plays fluid.
Then I've exported the movie using the checkmark to produce a "large" video file. The result was then selectable in iDVD 08 (7.0.2).
Now I've made some nice looking menus and linked my movies to the project. The built in project preview of iDVD still showed me good looking results (the resolution was slightly decreased in order to meet DVD specs but that is acceptable).
But after burning the project to a DVD (or exporting it to an image file or VIDEO_TS folder) the quality went absolutely terrible! There are huge compression artifacts on some regions and all imported iMovie clips are studdering very heavily. Especially fast Ken Burns pannings suffer from a bad encoding quality.
It's driving me mad because those problems only appear on that part of the DVD I've created using iMovie. The (animated) menus and imported camcorder clips are playing fine in a good quality.
I've double checked the export results from iMovie (playing the produced m4v file using Quicktime and VLC) and they are absolutely fine...
Is there anything I'm missing?
The iDVD project settings are PAL, 4:3 aspect ratio and professional quality (even tried high quality and best performance at no luck). The entire project length is only ~20min...
Any help would be greatly appreciated

Okay, you are absolutely right. But it's a pity that Apple restricted the encoding engine in such a way. Users might think that a setting which is called "professioal quality" just does it job and encodes the material at this level.
I understand that a professional application like DVD SP offers a lot more settings for advanced users (without the ease of use when compared to the simple iDVD workflow) but I'm quite sure that it does this job better even with "default" settings.
For me I'm now doing those things with a 50$ version of TMPGEnc
Anyway, thanks for your help!

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What do the photos look like if you play the movie within iMovie? Sounds like adjusting Ken Burns would help.

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I am new to iMovie (& Macs) and am trying to replicate some complex motion on a still photo that I had on my PC with Adobe Premiere.
The motion I would like is to pan and/or zoom around a photo, then pause at the end of the motion for a few seconds before transitioning to the next photo. I tried to do this by basically using two paired clips:
1) add ken burns effects to the clip to accomplish the pan/zoom
2) copy the clip
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4) set the second clip duration to a few seconds (first clip is generally between 6-10 seconds originally)
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Does anyone know why I would be getting this stutter (it looks like a flash of white, actually, that is only 1 frame long) ? When I walk through the movie, frame by frame, it looks like somehow I am actually getting a single white frame at the end of the first clip, but I have no idea where this frame is coming from or how to get rid of it.
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I have had something similar happen in my slideshows. I would first check to see if you have a flash frame between the photos (which I've found sometimes randomly occurs for some unknown reason). You can enlarge the timeline as big as possible to see if you have one and just delete it. But I've also had a flash of white that appears at the end of a photo that is not a flash frame on the timeline. The only way I've figured to get rid of it is to delete the photo and re-insert it. Which is a pain, but has worked for me.

Jerky zooms in ken burns

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Jerky zoom in ken burns

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You created the slideshow using the built-in Ken Burns effect in iPhoto or iMovie? I've never found that to be up to my expectations; additionally, if the people or objects in the pictures have certain designs (in their clothes), using movement can blur them. I use Photo to Movie myself - to me it creates the smoothest movement in slideshows. Another possibility is the size of your images: did you increase or decrease their original size? And when you encoded it, what settings did you use? I use the Share > Quicktime > Expert settings and then choose these options:
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Loss of text and part of pictures when burned on DVD

I have made a documentation and transferred it to DVD. When watching the DVDs I find that the pictures are cropped. Most of the time it does not matter, it matters however, when part of the text or important parts of pictures are missing. And this is very annoying as I have spent a lot of time in creating this documentation.
When watching the project on the computer or via AppleTV everything is fine.
Is there a way of finding out or calculating how much will be lost prior to burning the DVD or while making the project in iMovie?
An answer and hopefully a solution to this is much appreciated.

Oh vad det är svårt att vara tillräckligt tydlig. Men jag lär mig. Det är min oförmåga att begripa!
This let me assume that all was OK in iMovie.      YES
So You do a 16x9 project
• What version of iMovie do You use ?        iMovie '11 9.0.4 (1634)
• Did You set up iDVD as a 16x9 project    YES
• the 16x9 size has to be set at two places in iDVD    Have done that
first when starting a brand new project
then under Project/Project info [Shift+cmd+I] - here too set 16x9
So if You can describe from what Camera was used (Video Codec) to the final DVD - step by step - we can see where the work flow differs.
Camera: LUMIX TZ7
Download material to iPhoto and/or iMovie - rework the pics in iPhoto but also in Adobe photoshop. It is usually the pics I have reworked in Adobe photoshop that are cut.
Then I start a new project in iMovie and add the pics and videos. When I have pics which I do not want to be cropped or with Ken Burns effect I use the setting "fit the frame" (mine is in German and says "anpassen").
I do not share to iDVD, but finalize the project in iMovie, which - after many hours - provides all sizes.
Then I open a new project in iDVD in 16:9 and insert the rendered film which is then available in medium, large, 720p and 1080p. I chose the 1080p.
Then I make an Image Copy and burn the DVD.
Så gör jag, kan du skriver direkt till mig?
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Therese L.

Quand je grave un diaporama fait sur iMovie sur un DVD les photos, que je fais bouger par le système Ken Burns ont des tremblements importants qui diminuent la netteté de la photo. Pouvez-vous m'aider ? Merci

quand je grave un diaporama fait sur iMovie sur un DVD les photos, que je fais bouger par le système Ken Burns ont des tremblements importants qui diminuent la netteté de la photo. Pouvez-vous m'aider ? Merci

Hi
Google translate: When I burn a slideshow made on iMovie onto a DVD pictures, I'm moving through the system Ken Burns tremors significant decrease the sharpness of the picture. Can you help me? thank you
Not 100% sure of Your problem but
• Ken-Burns effect = enlargment and movement = quality loss dep. on enlarging the picture
• Using iMovie'08 to 11 for a resulting DVD = quality loss = as non of them can deliver 100% interlaced SD-video over to iDVD - loss is made when going from Event's (or iPhoto) to Project's and can not be mended later
• Shakiness (tremor) - can also depend on wrong frame per second rate (PAL = 25fps and NTSC = 29.97 (30)fps (SECAM = 25fps))
• Using the anti-shake/stabilize function in iMovie also depends on up-scaling the picture to try to follow motions to lessen the shakes = picture quality loss
So I use
• iMovie HD6 - or -
• FinalCut (any version)
• FotoMagico™
as I find DVDs made via these and iDVD to be so much better.
Please use English - as this is the forum common denominator so that all that can help will try and many many more can benefit from the answers. It's better that You use Google translate and see if translation works than that the rest of the world will have to guess what's it all about.
Yours trying - Bengt W

Does anyone experienced bad quality when burning a DVD?

Does anyone experienced bad quality when burning a DVD?
Using OS 10.6.8 and Magiv Video in iDVD, I am having a hard time creating a decent DVD. The videos per se are fine, but the intro menu and menu text and images are extremely poor quality and hard to read. What is going on?

Hi my notes on this - might be of help
DVD quality
1. iDVD 08, 09 & 11 has three levels of qualities. (version 7.0.1, 7,0.4 & 7.1.1)
iDVD 6 has the two last ones
• Professional Quality
(movies + menus up to 120 min.) - BEST (but not always for short movies e.g. up to 45 minutes in total)
• Best Performances
(movies + menus less than 60 min.) - High quality on final DVD (Can be best for short movies)
• High Quality (in iDVD08 or 09) / Best Quality (in iDVD6)
(movies + menus up to 120 min.) - slightly lower quality than above
About double on DL DVDs.
2. Video from
• FCE/P - Export out as full quality QuickTime.mov (not self-containing, no conversion)
• iMovie x-6 - Don't use ”Share/Export to iDVD” = destructive even to movie project and especially so
when the movie includes photos and the Ken Burns effect NOT is used. Instead just drop or import the iMovie movie project icon (with a Star on it) into iDVD theme window.
• iMovie’08 or 09 or 11 are not meant to go to iDVD. Go via Media Browser and as Large (NOT HD or other resolutiona as result will suffer) or rather use iMovie HD 6 from start.
3. I use Roxio Toast™ to make an as slow burn as possibly e.g. x4 or x1 (in iDVD’08 or 09 this can also be set)
This can also be done with Apple’s Disk Utilities application when burning from a DiskImage.
4. There has to be about or more than 25Gb free space on internal (start-up) hard disk. iDVD can't
use an external one as scratch disk (if it is not start-up disc). For SD-Video - if HD-material is used I guess that 4 to 5 times more would do.
5. I use Verbatim ( also recommended by many - Taiyo Yuden DVDs - I can’t get hold of it to test )
6. I use DVD-R (no +R or +/-RW) - DVD-R play’s on more and older DVD-Players
7. Keep NTSC to NTSC - or - PAL to PAL when going from iMovie to iDVD
(I use JES_Deinterlacer to keep frame per sec. same from editing to the Video-DVD result.)
8. Don’t burn more than three DVDs at a time - but let the laser cool off for a while before next batch.
iDVD quality also depends on.
• DVD is a standard in it self. It is Standard Definition Quality = Same as on old CRT-TV sets and can not
deliver anything better that this.
HD-DVD was a short-lived standard and it was only a few Toshiba DVD-players that could playback.
These DVDs could be made in DVD-Studio Pro. But they don’t playback on any other standard DVD-Player.
Blu-Ray / BD can be coded onto DVDs but limited in time to - about 20-30 minutes and then need
_ Roxio Toast™ 10 Pro incl. BD-component
_ BD disks and burner if full length movies are to be stored
_ BD-Player or PlayStation3 - to be able to playback
The BD-encoded DVDs can be play-backed IF Mac also have Roxio DVD-player tool. Not on any standard Mac or DVD-player
Full BD-disks needs a BD-player (in Mac) as they need blue-laser to be read. No red-laser can do this.
• HOW much free space is there on Your internal (start-up) hard disk. Go for approx. 25Gb.
less than 5Gb and Your result will most probably not play.
• How it was recorded - Tripod vs Handheld Camera. A stable picture will give a much higher quality
• Audio is most often more critical than picture. Bad audio and with dropouts usually results in a non-viewed movie.
• Use of Video-editor. iMovie’08 or 09 or 11 are not the tools for DVD-production. They discard every second line resulting in a close to VHS-tape quality.
iMovie 1 to HD6 and FinalCut any version delivers same quality as Camera record in = 100% to iDVD
• What kind of movie project You drop into it. MPEG4 seems to be a bad choice.
other strange formats are .avi, .wmv, .flash etc. Convert to streamingDV first
Also audio formats matters. I use only .aiff or from miniDV tape Camera 16-bit
strange formats often problematic are .avi, .wmv, audio from iTunes, .mp3 etc
Convert to .aiff first and use this in movie project
• What kind of standard - NTSC movie and NTSC DVD or PAL to PAL - no mix.
(If You need to change to do a NTSC DVD from PAL material let JES_Deinterlacer_3.2.2 do the conversion)
(Dropping a PAL movie into a NTSC iDVD project
(US) NTSC DVDs most often are playable in EU
(EU) PAL DVDs most often needs to be converted to play in US
UNLESS. They are play-backed by a Mac - then You need not to care
• What kind of DVDs You are using. I use Verbatim DVD-R (this brand AND no +R or +/-RW)
• How You encode and burn it. Two settings prior iDVD’08 or 09
Pro Quality (only in iDVD 08 & 09)
Best / High Quality (not always - most often not)
Best / High Performances (most often my choice before Pro Quality)
1. go to iDVD pref. menu and select tab far right and set burn speed to x1 (less errors = plays better) - only in iDVD 08 & 09
(x4 by some and may be even better)
2. Project info. Select Professional Encoding - only in iDVD 08 & 09.
Region codes.
iDVD - only burn Region = 0 - meaning - DVDs are playable everywhere
DVD Studio pro can set Region codes.
1 = US
2 = EU
unclemano wrote
What it turned out to be was the "quality" settings in iDVD. The total clip time was NOT over 2 hours or 4.7GB, yet iDVD created massive visual artifacts on the "professional quality" setting.
I switched the settings to "high quality" which solved the problem. According iDVD help, "high quality" determines the best bit rate for the clips you have.
I have NEVER seen iDVD do this before, especially when I was under the 2 hour and 4.7GB limits.
For anyone else, there seem to be 2 places in iDVD to set quality settings, the first is under "preferences" and the second under "project info." They do NOT seem to be linked (i.e. if you change one, the other is NOT changed). take care, Mario
TO GET IT TO WORK SLIGHTLY FASTER
• Minimum of 25Gb free space on Start-Up hard disk
• No other programs running in BackGround e.g. Energy-Saver
• Don’t let HD spin down or be turned off (in Energy-Save)
• Move hard disks that are not to be used to Trash - To be disconnected/turned off
• Goto Spotlight and set the rest of them under Integrity (not to be scanned)
• Set screen-saver to a folder without any photo - then make an active corner (up right for me) and set
pointer to this - turns on screen saver - to show that it has nothing to show
Yours Bengt W

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