JIT and Forecast delivery

Hi Gurus,
Got a question on sales scheduling agreements schedule lines. Our customer sends 10 weeks of forecast delivery schedules and 2 weeks of JIT deliveries. which one of these two are passed to MD04?
Assuming only forecast delivery schedules are seen in MD04:
Assuming customer sends forecast delivery schedule for week2 as 50. but in JIT deliveries he only sent 40 for that week. if only forecast deliveries are see in md04, then my forecast and planning quantity is 50 , but actually my JIT delivery is only 40. AM I producing 10 extra? that means my planning is wrong?

925,
so in system it will show on 3/21 monday
I guess this means that you are entering using a Day format rather than Week format.
You have answered you own question already. If the online SAP help, which you have read and reasonably paraphrased, is not clear enough to make you understand this, I cannot help you.
JIT horizon is 3/23, Forecast is for 3/21.
As I stated before, even though it may in your mind represent a week's demand, it is still for one day. There is no bucketing, nor time-based disaggregation, nor consumption. It is just a scheduling agreement.
You wrote
am using MRP indicator D. that means within jit horizon, consider my jit quanity for requirements. and after jit horizon consider my forecast delivery schedules as requirements.
. This is a reasonable paraphrase of the SAP online help. Do you believe this?
Forecast schedule is for 3/21. NOT for W 12/2011. This is before the JIT horizon, isn't it? What do you think will happen to the forecast schedule, looking at the last 'rules' you just wrote? and as stated in the SAP help that you read?
Now you want to enter JIT schedules. 21/22/23/24/25/26. JIT horizon is 23. 24/25/26 are after JIT horizon. What do you think will happen, based on the 'rules' you just wrote?
I feel my time is being wasted when you keep asking me these questions, already having the answers explicitly stated in SAP oinline help. Since you do not have access to a system, this cannot be a support issue, it is a evidently a matter of idle curiosity for you. I therefore believe I will will move onto other forum questions, where there is a possibility that the questioners will get some business benefit from my answers.
Best Regards,
DB49

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Hi
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Hi Gurus,
Got a question on sales scheduling agreements schedule lines. Our customer sends 10 weeks of forecast delivery schedules and 2 weeks of JIT deliveries. which one of these two are passed to MD04?
Assuming only forecast delivery schedules are seen in MD04:
Assuming customer sends forecast delivery schedule for week2 as 50. but in JIT deliveries he only sent 40 for that week. if only forecast deliveries are see in md04, then my forecast and planning quantity is 50 , but actually my JIT delivery is only 40. AM I producing 10 extra? that means my planning is wrong?

925,
so in system it will show on 3/21 monday
I guess this means that you are entering using a Day format rather than Week format.
You have answered you own question already. If the online SAP help, which you have read and reasonably paraphrased, is not clear enough to make you understand this, I cannot help you.
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You wrote
am using MRP indicator D. that means within jit horizon, consider my jit quanity for requirements. and after jit horizon consider my forecast delivery schedules as requirements.
. This is a reasonable paraphrase of the SAP online help. Do you believe this?
Forecast schedule is for 3/21. NOT for W 12/2011. This is before the JIT horizon, isn't it? What do you think will happen to the forecast schedule, looking at the last 'rules' you just wrote? and as stated in the SAP help that you read?
Now you want to enter JIT schedules. 21/22/23/24/25/26. JIT horizon is 23. 24/25/26 are after JIT horizon. What do you think will happen, based on the 'rules' you just wrote?
I feel my time is being wasted when you keep asking me these questions, already having the answers explicitly stated in SAP oinline help. Since you do not have access to a system, this cannot be a support issue, it is a evidently a matter of idle curiosity for you. I therefore believe I will will move onto other forum questions, where there is a possibility that the questioners will get some business benefit from my answers.
Best Regards,
DB49

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This is what I found out in an SAP “Knowledge Base Article" (1472965), indicating that there has to be requirements in the forecast delivery schedule in order for the schedujle agreement line item to not be considered incomplete for price.
https://websmp230.sap-ag.de/sap/support/notes/convert2pdf/002007204200000153012010?sap-language=EN
Resolution
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