JMS to communicate with multiple 3rd party systems

Hi,
I'm fairly new to JMS and I need to build a system where I communicate with several third party systems through JMS.
Basically what I need is some sort of synchronous message system, as I need the result to display on my webpage.
In this scenario, I was wondering what is the most common design here, in terms of queues or topics.
Would it be normal for each system to have a input and output queue, or is it more practical that I provide a outbound topic and an inbouw queue that these systems could use?
I know how I can set this up, but I just wanted to ask if it is normal practice to ask a third party to connect to your own JMS system, rather than connecting to their queue/topic?
Thanks,
Steven

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Communicating with a 3rd party system using webservices

Hi all,
I have a scenario
3rd party <-> XI<->CRM.
here im using SOAP between 3rd party <->XI, xi<->CRM im using ABAP proxies.
scenario 1. 3rd party would send messages(client request) to cRM to get some data. CRM has to respond for that.
scenario 2. CRM would request the 3rd party to get some data, then 3rd party would respond.
scenario 3. there is no request from 3rd party but crm has to send the data.
So 3rd party would communicate using webservices sends the request to cRM. if there is any request from cRM then 3rd party have a webservice to serve.
My question is
1) for cRM side i should create a webservice? if i create this where shold i create? i mean i should put this webservice on WAS of CRM or on XI ? If i create this webservice and put on CRM WAS, could this communicate with XI by using ABAP proxies? when CRM sends a request to 3rd party, to send this i should create another webservice ?
could you please anyone tell me about this?
thanks a lot in Advance

Hi,
<i>for cRM side i should create a webservice? if i create this where shold i create? i mean i should put this webservice on WAS of CRM or on XI ? If i create this webservice and put on CRM WAS, could this communicate with XI by using ABAP proxies?</i>
As to your first question, you dont have to create webservice on CRM side, all you have to do is to define an outbound interface in XI, and generate proxies for that outbound interface in CRM.
<i>when CRM sends a request to 3rd party, to send this i should create another webservice ?</i>
You havent specified who the 3rd party is DataBase/R3/etc. Let us assume the end system is truely external from your landscape. if the 3rd party provides you with a webservice, you can import taht webservice into XI and use it as an inbound interface.
Hence, you would then map the outbound interface from CRM-> XI to your inbound interface XI->3rd party.
3rd party provided webservice could be written in java/.net.
Naveen

Drop Zones Freezing in FCPX with multiple 3rd party plugins

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Same thing is now happening in the drop zones of my MotionVFX templates. Even if I go back to an older project that was previously working fine, it now has issues. In one instance a template with 4 drops zones - the first plays fine but now the remaining 3 the dropped in clips are frozen.
I figured maybe a recent FCPX update caused this. Any ideas?

Thanks for the info.
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- Add the SplitScreen X generator you wish to use to the timeline.
- Select the clips you wish to place into SplitScreen X and time them out on the timeline.
- Highlight the first clip you wish to add into SplitScreen X and then right click and select "create compound clip." repeat this with the other clips that will be placed in SplitScreen X.
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- Once your playhead is set, click the image well for the Drop zone you wish to place your clip in.
- Then move the cursor to the first frame of the Compound Clip on the timeline and click. Repeat this process for all of the drop zones and clips then click "Apply Clip"
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Connecting directly from ECC 6.0 to a 3rd party system with out XI ?

Hi Guys,
we have developed soap-soap scenarios in XI and we are sending the data from ECC 6.0 -> XI ->3rd party webbased system.
Due to some security reasons we are looking for options of doing the same with out XI ie directly from ECC 6.0 to 3rd party system.
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Srini

HI,
Yes, using standard Enterprise services from SAP you can communicate with 3rd party systems also,
Even you can configure the HTTPS communication with R/3 to 3rd Party system. For this you need to install the client Certificates and have to use valid User ID and Passwords.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/3a/7cddde33ff05cae10000000a128c20/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/e8/1f1041a0f6f16fe10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
Disadvantage of communication without XI
1. XI provides the re-usability concept. i.e. if you have just R/3 to 3rd party and tomorrow you may need to add another 3rd party or sap system to communicate, then you just re-use the existing scenario.
But in case of direct communication is leads to point-to-point connection.
2. R/3 can't directly support to the open Standards, either you have to use ABAP proxies or RFCs to convert it to XML format. But XI is an Centralized Integration Platform with Open Standard. In current world, Openness is important.
3. XI has the Ability to communicate with other messaging systems/products may be JMS or any other 3rd party systems also which has the limitations with direct communication
4. Complex processes for communication possible instead of only sending and receiving (business process management) (connect e.g. asynchronous and synchronous steps, define complex communication scenarios)
Mapping etc possible to accomplish in Java. Platform independent Java components.
5. XI has Java & .Net support. which is not possible with directly R/3
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Swarup

Unicode Errors - Interface with non-Unicode 3rd party system

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Define one logical system for PI or multiple LS for 3rd-party system?

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We are using IDOC2SOAP and SOAP2IDOC scenario in PI7.11. My question is regarding the logical system(or partner profile) on R3 side. We have two 3rd party system:A and B, so we have two choices.
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technically you can use both options.
The question is - do you want all the IDOCs in your R3 system to appear as though they were sent from the PI?
What if a lot of 3rd party systems were sending the same IDOC (for example - ORDERS) and you want to investigate only those who were sent from system A?
I like it configured that every system will be identified by a name I give it.
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Processing Invoices for Service Entries Via a 3rd Party System

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Hi Chandra
Its always preferred to use Business service for communication with systems outside the landscape. As it does not refer to any SLD components and safe to use on internet etc.
What is the use of using a 3rd Business system instead of using business service in my current situation?
If you want to use 3rd party system you need to define party based communication and it acts as a party in production environment. You can also create a Standalone sytem in SLD for your use. Standalone technical system mostly refers to standalone Java applications in landscape.
n both the cases, i can use a file sender CC and pickup the file from a folder using FTP protocol.
What is the criteria based on which i need to take this decision?
If your communication is party based and the 3rd party you refer is a party for ERP then it make sense to use a third party communication and use party name as well.By this i mean business wise. Else its always good to use Business service.
And finally, how are the system name & host name details, which we given during 3rd party technical system definition in SLD useful?
To use this third party system you need to register products on TS else you will not be able to see any Interface etc while configuring in ID. you need to add all details to it in SLD.
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Gaurav

Communication between SAP and 3rd Party Systems using IDOC HTTP XML Interfa

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i am try do
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With The help of SDN Contribution
link----
( have look on it)
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/4943f2b7-0a01-0010-37af-faff35b2f08c
I am getting error in
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RFC destination HTTPLOG Not specified for system HTTPLOG
any 1 have any idea if plzzzzzzzz...........
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Ram

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I would like to know if I can have FCP maker names be the same as what appears in field, master comment 1. I am importing these makers from a 3rd party system

Hello, I am importing logs from from a 3rd party system. They come in as markers into FCP. The log comments come in under master comment 1. Is there a way to re-map this so master comment 1 appears where the maker type is shown.

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Creation of master data info object- data coming form a 3rd party system

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Regards
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Hi,
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Is it possible to extract vacacy created in Global HR or provide a link to 3rd party system on vacancy card?

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All VF01 Invocie from SAP to 3rd Party System

Dear Experts,
I am trying to send customer invoice to an external system via PI with IDoc type INVOIC02. I have done the basic setting for the output type ZRD0 to transfer the document via. EDI.
I have created a partner profile for Logical System u2013 SYSCLNT100 (LS) in WE20 and have given the outbound parameters with the message type INVOIC.
These are the settings for my partner profile:
part type: LS
msg type: INVOIC
Outbound Options: Receiver port: A000000050 (tRFC)
Packet size: 1
Transfer IDOC immediately
basic type: INVOIC02
Message Control: Application: V3
Msg type: ZRD0
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I manual add ZRD0,
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With Regards,
Karthik

Hello Max,
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With Regards,
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Invoice to 3rd Party System

Dear Experts,
I am trying to send customer invoice to an external system via PI with IDoc type INVOIC02. I have done the basic setting for the output type ZRD0 to transfer the document via. EDI.
I have created a partner profile for Logical System u2013 SYSCLNT100 (LS) in WE20 and have given the outbound parameters with the message type INVOIC.
These are the settings for my partner profile:
part type: LS
msg type: INVOIC
Outbound Options: Receiver port: A000000050 (tRFC)
Packet size: 1
Transfer IDOC immediately
basic type: INVOIC02
Message Control: Application: V3
Msg type: ZRD0
Process Code: SD09
When the output is manually triggered in VF01
Goto  Header  Output
I manual add ZRD0,
Partner type - LS
Partner u2013 SYSCLNT100 & Language - EN
The system given error message u2018Maintain EDI partner profile for SYSCLNT100u2019
When Condition Record is maintained in VV31
Billing type - F2
Partner u2013 SYSCLNT100 & Medium - 6
In Billing VF01, the Condition Record is ignored with error message ''SYSCLNT100u2019 is not an EDI partneru2019
We are sending the Invoice to 3rd party system and not the Customer (KU); hence we would like to maintain WE20 for the Logical System. All the Invoice's generated in the system should be sent to a fixed 3rd Party system, please advice
With Regards,
Karthik

Refer my responses in the following SDN thread:
- Reports to be sent through IDOCS/EDI
And also
- Sending invoice automatically via email
Even you can refer SAP Note 456127 - FAQ: Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) in purchasing for understanding.
Regards
JP

What is a 3rd Party System?

Is a "3rd Party System" anything that isn't developed by Apple?
IF so, since I updated to Mavericks, I have a "mac" compatible program that I can't get into, eveb though it had a new dmg to download making it OK for Mavericks. (Same thing happened going from Tiger to Lion with another program.)
Problem is, Apple doesn't make all kinds of programs, like Genealogy, Languages, Cameras, etc. SO, what's a user to do? & Why does mac just "dump" what ever it is to keep these programs running on a new OS?
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WoW that was quick!
Kappy,
1. ..."never upgrade an operating system or critical system software without knowing that your job-critical software is compatible."
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2. "Apple provides all the necessary information to interested developers that is needed for their software to be compatible. If the developer chooses not to keep up,"
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News flash, it does not. The developer's trying to "fix" it ... or did Apple revise it's specs, after letting other's know & the release? Hmmm (used to be Micro-Swift's modis aporendi)
Chris, read # 2 on Kappy's did that already.
Tom, What do you mean "duplicated posting"? Where? What does "duplicated posting have to do with my software problem?

Distribute different versions of data to 3rd party systems from SAP ERP2004

Dear fellow SDN users
I am working in a large retail company where we are about to implement a new store system. The new system should be implemented in phases, where each phase covers one or multiple countries. Until the implementation is complete, our old store system should still be supported.
My problem is that we also need to support multiple versions of the systems, which is something we have never done before. Do any of you guys have any experience in how to differentiate versions of the data being sent from SAP to 3rd party systems? The scenario today is:
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Best regards,
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Hi Chris
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