Job work Return
Hi Friends
I am facing one problem regarding process tracking. Well scenario is we receive our semifinish from vendor after job work.Some of job work material are not fully furnished some times it s not polished well etc... Now my client again sent this material to Job worker for rework against subcontracting challan. Now i am making a return delivery against GR but system is not allowing me to raise subcontracting challan against this document.So kindly guide me how track this process.
Regards
Vivek
Edited by: Supergene on Feb 28, 2008 3:12 PM
Waiting for your reply...
Hi,
You should allow 542 in mvmt type grouping for issues in customizing for Subcontracting in CIN (logistice general).
Then u will be able to create a challan with this material document.
Regards
Krishna
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Hi gurus,
i have another scenario regarding return in customer job work,
if a customer is sending us a material for painting we are taking that material as customer job work where we follow the following steps
sales order--goods received of raw materialproduction planning- delivery---- invoice
now say if the customer finds that the outcome was not satisfactory then he is going to return the finished material back to us and again we will make it proper and send it back to the customer and we have to deliver it free of cost or may be we will take some charges.
so can any one tell me how can i map this job work return scenario.
looking forward for your reply.
Regards,
Subhrangshuhi,
there is an process called REWORK ORDER in SAP BB.
please check under the name of V45
there is a BLOG written by brahmakumar please check it
this might be help ful to you.
regards,
balajia
Edited by: balaji timmampalli achari on Nov 13, 2010 3:41 AM -
Customer Standard & returns Process for Job work Scenario issue
Hi,
According to My Job Work Scenarios
Customer will give the Raw material like Grey (Non Valuated material )
Normal Process :
Once we created a sales order for 100 meters , at the time of production completion the finished stock will be increased or decreased like 110 meters or 90 meters
1. At the time Delivery how system will accept over delivery and under delivery . i have seen the 2 fields in customer master where we will we maintain the Percentages how system will determined
2. Billing will be done by based on delivery qty and after that i have to raise the Excise invoice based on billing level
my doubt is how can we know or Track this sale order we delivered qty less or over ? is there any report available in standard SAP ? how to close the sales orders ? is there any mass close of sales orders ?
3. At the time of Excise invoice they want to enter the Assessable manually how to do in SAP ?
Return Process:
1. we will raise the Return Order based on document type RE , but in my case client will take the Return Goods and he will give the price of raw material like Grey how i am going to handle this situation ?
2.How to process the excise related activities what the settings i have to do and what are the t-codes ( I think we can use J1IH ) i have to use
3. What the documents will be generated
Please guide me because i searched in Forum i couldn't able to find out
is there any solution ?
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna_sap on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PMMy answers are in BOLD. I have done some tests and my advise is based on the tests.
First of all Thanks for Reply Mr.Typewriter,
According to My Job Work Scenarios
Customer will give the Raw material like Grey (Non Valuated material )
Normal Process :
Once we created a sales order for 100 meters , at the time of production completion the finished stock will be increased or decreased like 110 meters or 90 meters
1. At the time Delivery how system will accept over delivery and under delivery . i have seen the 2 fields in customer master where we will we maintain the Percentages how system will determined
Yes you can have limits to over and underdelivery in XD01 or VD51, depending upon either you want to give limits for a customer or for a cust-mat combination
Can you please explain because my doubt is if i entered manually system will accept i want to restrict the end-user like for example he can enter over delivery 10 % and under delivery 5 % where i have to fix those percentage because if i am not fix End-User can enter sometimes over delivery 11 % and under delivery 10 % system will accept i want to restrict that
3 steps -
1. in VD51 create cus-mat info record, go inside the record by double clicking - give Underdelivery % & Overdelivery %, Save.
2. in 0VLP, for your delivery item category, in field "Check Overdelivery" = B (Situation rejected with error)
3. in OVM1, for message VL 064 change to E (error), this is for Underdelivery
Now if sales order is created for 100EA. Underdelivery and Overdelivery = 10%
Then user can NOT create delivery e.g. for 80EA or for 150EA.
I have tested this.
2. Billing will be done by based on delivery qty and after that i have to raise the Excise invoice based on billing level
my doubt is how can we know or Track this sale order we delivered qty less or over ? is there any report available in standard SAP ? how to close the sales orders ? is there any mass close of sales orders ?
In sales order in VA03, item level, Tab Schedule line - there you can see clearly Ordered Quantity and Delivered Quantity
Even if it is Over or under delivery also
Yes, see point 1
The status of the order you can set/configure, if in XD02, in Tab Shipping, field = Partial delivery / item
status can also be configured in VD52, field = Partial delivery / item
This way you do not have to manually close the sales order, even if you have underdelivered. Select the option (A, B,...) which fits your business requirement best.
3. At the time of Excise invoice they want to enter the Assessable manually how to do in SAP ?
what about the solution for this point
I don't know this point's answer
Return Process:
1. we will raise the Return Order based on document type RE , but in my case client will take the Return Goods and he will give the price of raw material like Grey how i am going to handle this situation ?
Explain this more. (what are material you have sent to customer & what material he is wanting to pay for; are they different MMRs?)
Two ways -
One have different cond records with different MMR and prices (if Finished mat = M1, and raw material = M2); in MM01, Tab Sales org 1, you can have Sales Unit changes set.
Second have a different pricing procedure for RE and another for OR.
Customer will give the Grey Material ( Non - Valuated ), we send the finished Material to customer correct , Due to some reason customer return the Finished Goods that time Client will pay the Grey material value
1 Questions -
e.g. Grey mat = M2
Finished goods = M1
Q1. RE order shall have different material #s from sales orders, because RE shall have grey mat. & OR shall have Finished mat. Is that correct?
Then - cond records in VK11 for different materials, for con type PR00 for M1 and M2; this is possible.
2.How to process the excise related activities at the time of returns what the settings i have to do and what are the t-codes ( I think we can use J1IH if yes guide me based on that )
What is the solution for this point
I do not know this answer
3. What the documents will be generated
Are you asking documents to be generated for RE process? Delivery note has to be printed for the warehouse to do GR
I mean at the time returns is there any excise related documents will be updated if yes tell me what are the documents ?
I do not know this answer
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: Typewriter on Jul 13, 2011 1:43 AM -
Dear All
My client have a requirement.... they have got empty bottles and their logo we have to just paste them and send it back, so its a matter of JOB WORK in SAP SD, here the customer and Vendor is same, so how can I map this in sap.
Matter is most urgent,
Thanks and Regards
DeepankarDear expert
Here the scenerio is like this-
1] The Material will be received under job work, hence it is non-excisable, it should be return within 180 days from the date of supplier challan date.
2] In case of Breakages or scrap of Bottles, Customer/Supplier will provide us 2-3% allowance.
3] Supplier will provide the plain Bottle in Plastic Crate, same will be returned to him. No need of any packaging.
4] For Pricing, Base Price will be decided by Marketing Team. Service Tax - 10% of Base Price, Ecess - 2% on Service Tax, S/HEcess - 1% on Service Tax, Thus pricing will be done.
5] For Invoicing the procedure required in SAP with reference to Service Tax. only Heading display INVOICE instead of Tax invoice & separate series of Invoice will be required.
How to map this in SAP SD module
I am new hence need help on urgent basis
Thanks and regards
Deepankar -
Force FM execution on batch job work process
Hi!
Is it possible to asynchronously start FM execution on batch job work process?
Additions:
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CALL FUNCTION func IN BACKGROUND TASK.
starts FM execution just on another dialog process.
Context of requirement:
There is a program that may be logically splitted into two parts:
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Regards,
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*-- not background processing
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titel = 'Warning!!!'
cancel_display = space
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EXPORTING
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IMPORTING
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Srinivas -
Dear Sir,
We have a scenario like, we are sending material to Vendor for job work and he is sending back the same material without adding any materials in it but he is collecting Excise Duty as well as service charge. Now for service charge I will rise service P.O and for excise duty I will rise ordinary P.O. but at the time of GRN and MIRO transaction material value should not flow, only Excise duty to be posted in MRO transaction. Please provide your suggestions.
Thanks,
ManojHi,
Why is it necessary for you to pay excise duty. Subcontracting is exempt from Excise duty if the raw materials have been converted to finish materials and the same returned within 180 days. This requires the creation of a Subcontracting challan.
The steps are as follows:
ME21N- Create Subcontracting PO with Item category as "L" and provide BOM inside.
MB1B - Transfer posting components with respect to PO.
J1IF01 - Create Subcontracting Challan
MIGO - Goods Receipt of Finish Material in 101 and consumption of components in 543 movement type.
J1IFQ - Reconciliation of Challan.
J1IF13 - Completion of Challan.
J1IFR - Annexure IV Report
MIRO - Invoice for conversion charges(Service charges).
Regards
Binoy -
Dear All,
We are implementing SAP in one plastic manufacturing industry. Here they are doing job work. All BOMs are supplied by customer and they manufacturing product and return finished material to same supplier. They charging only conversion charges
for making the finished goods.
Here the problem is the customer they allowing 1% conversion loss, supose for making FG 'x' 100 kg i required BOM1 is 100 kg. if they issued 100 kg RM actually i am producing 100 kg of FG but at the time of delivery they issuing only 99 kg not 100 kg (they left out 1 kg is my profit).
so system has to do calculation based on conversion loss and it is allow to issue only 99 kg instead of wht i have produce 100 kg
how to address this.
Regards,
sakthivelHi,
Please try to create Subcontract purchase order as normal as you create, Only tick on Free check box button.
Regards,
Mahesh Wagh -
Hi all!
We do a mere job work for our customers. We receive the materials from customers, do some work on it and return back the same. For this i have created 2 material codes for finished and raw as non-valuated material(UNBW). Process is like i have created an enquiry(1300003) , created quotation(1400026)based on enquiry, created sales order(1500079) with reference to quotation and tried to receive the raw material in 501 E or 561 E with reference to sales order.
But when i tried to do goods receipt in MB1C (561 E) with reference to a particular sales order number(1500079) system throws me an error as below.
Account assignment cannot be carried out because of different origin no.
Message no. V1134
Diagnosis
The sales document to which you want to refer is based on sales document 1300003 and item 000010. Therefore, the settlement and possibly inventory management are carried out using the number of the preceding document.
System Response
This entry is not allowed.
Procedure
Enter the document and the item number of the preceding sales document.
System is not accepting the sales order number as reference but its accepting the enquiry number when i do 561 E
How can we solve this issue..
Thanks in advance,
Raj.Hi,
1. create BOM - Customer materials are raw materials.
2. Create a sales order with header materials .
3. Maintain the pricing according to your requirement.
4. the sales order with create a purchase requisition for the sub materials.
5. based on this create a purchase order. Note create a account assignment for the sales order to puchase order with respect to job work.
6. Do MIGO.
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thanks
Kuntla -
SUBMIT...JOB..RETURN
Hi folkss,
I am trying to call SUBMIT zrepid via job jobname number jobnumber and return from another executable program. The control transfers to main prog immediately after triggering job. I want the control to return back after the job executes completely in FINISHED status, so that i can export the LIST from memory and import into the calling program. I dont want to use the spool list.
Also, whenever SUBMIT is being used , does the execution happens in background all the time irrespective of JOB or REPORT calling???
thanks.Hello Thomas,
Thanks for responding. I am working on performance issue, and user wants list output in foreground only. If i see the timestamp of program having SUBMIT...EXPORTING LIST...RETURN with that of program having SUBMIT..VIA JOB..RETURN,
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COMMIT WORK AND WAIT.
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Please advise the series of activities of jobwork under sap when we
receive material form customers for processing.
Under existing procedure we receive material for jobwork under the cover
of jobwork challan (Annexure-II).
After processing we return the material along with waste/scrat if any to
the customer along with the said challan(Annexure-II).
Challan(Annexure-II) is in two part, Part-I (to be filled by customer) &
Part-II(to be filled by us)
There is no payment of duty/Saletax/service tax is required under job
work. Only we are charging is convertion charges.
Please advise,
Edited by: Ramana Avudari on Dec 8, 2011 4:03 PMHi,
It looks like sales process alone is not enough. You also have a production process there.
In general, the process should be like this:
Use materials that are non valuated, or use non valuated sales order stock.
Use MTO scenario with production (maybe even better - assemble to order).
Material flow:
Create sales order.
Receive components from customer in stock (customer stock). Create production order (with BOM or manually enter the components).
Consume comonents and receive FG in stock.
Deliver from stock. Bill customer.
I don't know about challan, since it is only in India. -
BOM SELECTION DURING CREATION OF JOB WORK PO
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In my scenario we are not running MRP so my problem is if i maintain two BOM for a halb material say ALT 1(for inhse prdn.) AND ALT 2(job work) .Now if i make a job work PO for this item the system by default picks the ALT1 always and i want to pick the ALT 2.There is no LOT size funda the item can anytime be produced inhse OR subcontracting.
R sehgalHi sehgal ,
i am giving one solution, but it works fine if you run MRP, same you can try with your case.
The right Bom can be selected by creating production version.
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Exactly you cannot send a finished goods to the subcontractor for work.
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After purchasing material from one vendor the same has to sent for job work ( fabrication) , when the material complete from job work the cost of those material is increase . Please guide me for how to capture those additional cost in inventory.
Overall please brief me how to handle job work process in SAP B1.
waiting for positive response to resolve my query...
Thanks in Advance
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HarshadhI HARSHAD
While u do the purchasing of material please make a udf to denote that the item purchased are for job work u may prepare a udf or not depending upon ur system
then once the item is purchased make a warehouse in ur system and name it as job work and then do inventory transfer and once the job work is done again do inventory transfer with increased price that would include ur job work price
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good answer will be awarded
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Background job means system will automatically perform some transaction / actions at perdetermined time based on the variants selected for that program.
Ex 1: You want to see the list of PO or PR or Production order created for a day, you can create a ABAP program and give the creation date in selction screen.
Provide the Plant or doc type, file path to download the report etc..
and save the variant.
You can set this program to run during mid night( 11.00 p.m) with the sysytem date (crrent date).
So system will run this program and extract the report in Application server level as per the file location given in the program selection screen.
Ex 2:
MRP program
Ex 3.
Auto PO creation program
Thanks,
Kumar Arcot -
Does back ground jobs work process go to private mode or not
Hi Experts,
Can any one tell me
Does back ground jobs work process go to private mode or not
Thanks and Regards
Dan !!Hi Dan,
I do not think background work processes would go into PRIV mode.
the orginal information was remove by Admin because provided by Cut and Paste from SAP Online Help.
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