Job Work scenario

Dear Experts
In the following scenario plz help.
in the job work tht client is doing. we r making a production order of a NON VALUATED DUMMY MATERIAL.
the raw material which the customer gave to us was lets say 100 kg.
after doing the job work i.e. after confirming the producion order the quantity made is 105 kg.
I have to give customer only 100 kg.
so rest 5 kg is in my stock.
client want to convert it into its valuated stock.
can u please help in mapping this scenario in SAP

Hi,
Create a separate valuated material code and update the stocks through 561 or 501
Diwakar

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Customer Standard & returns Process for Job work Scenario issue

Hi,
According to My Job Work Scenarios
Customer will give the Raw material like Grey (Non Valuated material )
Normal Process :
Once we created a sales order for 100 meters , at the time of production completion the finished stock will be increased or decreased like 110 meters or 90 meters
1. At the time Delivery how system will accept over delivery and under delivery . i have seen the 2 fields in customer master where we will we maintain the Percentages how system will determined
2. Billing will be done by based on delivery qty and after that i have to raise the Excise invoice based on billing level
my doubt is how can we know or Track this sale order we delivered qty less or over ? is there any report available in standard SAP ? how to close the sales orders ? is there any mass close of sales orders ?
3. At the time of Excise invoice they want to enter the Assessable manually how to do in SAP ?
Return Process:
1. we will raise the Return Order based on document type RE , but in my case client will take the Return Goods and he will give the price of raw material like Grey how i am going to handle this situation ?
2.How to process the excise related activities what the settings i have to do and what are the t-codes ( I think we can use J1IH ) i have to use
3. What the documents will be generated
Please guide me because i searched in Forum i couldn't able to find out
is there any solution ?
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna_sap on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PM

My answers are in BOLD. I have done some tests and my advise is based on the tests.
First of all Thanks for Reply Mr.Typewriter,
According to My Job Work Scenarios
Customer will give the Raw material like Grey (Non Valuated material )
Normal Process :
Once we created a sales order for 100 meters , at the time of production completion the finished stock will be increased or decreased like 110 meters or 90 meters
1. At the time Delivery how system will accept over delivery and under delivery . i have seen the 2 fields in customer master where we will we maintain the Percentages how system will determined
Yes you can have limits to over and underdelivery in XD01 or VD51, depending upon either you want to give limits for a customer or for a cust-mat combination
Can you please explain because my doubt is if i entered manually system will accept i want to restrict the end-user like for example he can enter over delivery 10 % and under delivery 5 % where i have to fix those percentage because if i am not fix End-User can enter sometimes over delivery 11 % and under delivery 10 % system will accept i want to restrict that
3 steps -
1. in VD51 create cus-mat info record, go inside the record by double clicking - give Underdelivery % & Overdelivery %, Save.
2. in 0VLP, for your delivery item category, in field "Check Overdelivery" = B (Situation rejected with error)
3. in OVM1, for message VL 064 change to E (error), this is for Underdelivery
Now if sales order is created for 100EA. Underdelivery and Overdelivery = 10%
Then user can NOT create delivery e.g. for 80EA or for 150EA.
I have tested this.
2. Billing will be done by based on delivery qty and after that i have to raise the Excise invoice based on billing level
my doubt is how can we know or Track this sale order we delivered qty less or over ? is there any report available in standard SAP ? how to close the sales orders ? is there any mass close of sales orders ?
In sales order in VA03, item level, Tab Schedule line - there you can see clearly Ordered Quantity and Delivered Quantity
Even if it is Over or under delivery also
Yes, see point 1
The status of the order you can set/configure, if in XD02, in Tab Shipping, field = Partial delivery / item
status can also be configured in VD52, field = Partial delivery / item
This way you do not have to manually close the sales order, even if you have underdelivered. Select the option (A, B,...) which fits your business requirement best.
3. At the time of Excise invoice they want to enter the Assessable manually how to do in SAP ?
what about the solution for this point
I don't know this point's answer
Return Process:
1. we will raise the Return Order based on document type RE , but in my case client will take the Return Goods and he will give the price of raw material like Grey how i am going to handle this situation ?
Explain this more. (what are material you have sent to customer & what material he is wanting to pay for; are they different MMRs?)
Two ways -
One have different cond records with different MMR and prices (if Finished mat = M1, and raw material = M2); in MM01, Tab Sales org 1, you can have Sales Unit changes set.
Second have a different pricing procedure for RE and another for OR.
Customer will give the Grey Material ( Non - Valuated ), we send the finished Material to customer correct , Due to some reason customer return the Finished Goods that time Client will pay the Grey material value
1 Questions -
e.g. Grey mat = M2
Finished goods = M1
Q1. RE order shall have different material #s from sales orders, because RE shall have grey mat. & OR shall have Finished mat. Is that correct?
Then - cond records in VK11 for different materials, for con type PR00 for M1 and M2; this is possible.
2.How to process the excise related activities at the time of returns what the settings i have to do and what are the t-codes ( I think we can use J1IH if yes guide me based on that )
What is the solution for this point
I do not know this answer
3. What the documents will be generated
Are you asking documents to be generated for RE process? Delivery note has to be printed for the warehouse to do GR
I mean at the time returns is there any excise related documents will be updated if yes tell me what are the documents ?
I do not know this answer
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: Typewriter on Jul 13, 2011 1:43 AM

How to deal with Job Work Scenario in SAP B1

Dear All ,
After purchasing material from one vendor the same has to sent for job work ( fabrication) , when the material complete from job work the cost of those material is increase . Please guide me for how to capture those additional cost in inventory.
Overall please brief me how to handle job work process in SAP B1.
waiting for positive response to resolve my query...
Thanks in Advance
Regards,
Harshad

hI HARSHAD
While u do the purchasing of material please make a udf to denote that the item purchased are for job work u may prepare a udf or not depending upon ur system
then once the item is purchased make a warehouse in ur system and name it as job work and then do inventory transfer and once the job work is done again do inventory transfer with increased price that would include ur job work price
its worthwhile to chekc that in ur test database first and see if it fulfills ur concern or not
Regards,
Manish

Job Work Scenario / process mapping is required

Hi Experts,
This is the following system how the client is doing in legacy system and they want like that in SAP. is it possible in SAP?
1. With out sales order they are doing the production ( customer will give Grey material )
2. once production is done they packed the finished material into BALE wise that time they will maintain the bale packing slip for each bale wise
3. They will raise the commercial invoice based on the bale packing slip
4. once payment is done then only they can delivery the goods
5. At the time of delivery again they will refer bale packing slip for that particular customer and they select the bales numbers and once it is picked stock will be updated and as well as E.B-4 Register will be updated .
6. One IMPORTANT Point is at the time of delivery some bales like suppose out of 10 bales 7 bales will go to export and 3 bales local (domestic )
7. At the time of excise invoice for 7 bales they will raise excise Invoice (example number series 01E1220) and 3 bales domestic excise invoice ( example number series 01L1390) , in both the cases they are referring the delivery numbers
but one more point directly client is not doing export they are sending to customer and customer is exporting
8. How to map in the above cases pricing procedure and excise will calculate based on the (Job work Charges + Assessable
I need guidance how to solve the issue
I created 2 Sales Org like Domestic and Export
if any further information please revert
Regards,
Prasanna

First of all Thanks for reply,
Sorry for the Late reply
Here sales unit is in Meters and RG 1 Register also will be updated in Meters , EB-4 Register will be updated in Bales wise
now i am explaining
1. first customer will give the Grey material after one week and one month customer will give the program ( program means how he wants finished product ) for that program we designed new screen with Z-Table and also we designed program register new screen
2. once we receive the grey material and program qty that time i will raise the sales order for program qty how much he wants and also for one program we will raise more than one sales order
3. once production is completed partially they will pack the material into BALE wise suppose
sales order qty is like that
10 CO056864PL48M     2*2 Dyeing 48" Medium           100 meters
20 CO056864PL48D     2*2 Dyeing 48" Dark                200 meters
30 CO056864PL48ED     2*2 Dyeing 48" Extra Dark       300 meters
40 CO057272PL62W     2*2 Dyeing 62" White               280 meters
once production is done for the above sales order they packed into BALE wise like
BALE Number 100 :
10 CO056864PL48M     2*2 Dyeing 48" Medium          50 meters
20 CO056864PL48D     2*2 Dyeing 48" Dark              105.50 meters
BALE Number 101 :
20 CO056864PL48D     2*2 Dyeing 48" Dark                90 meters
30 CO056864PL48ED     2*2 Dyeing 48" Extra Dark     168 meters
40 CO057272PL62W     2*2 Dyeing 62" White              180 meters
like wise they will pack BALES once bale is packed for that particular BALE(S) they will raise the Commercial Invoice
Once payment is done may be customer will ask the delivery after 2 or 3 months they will raise the delivery based on the BALE numbers and also we done the new Screen Design for BALE in that they will get customer wise list of BALES
and also they don't refer multiple Sales orders they refer only BALE register from that they want to pick the material and also once they picked the material based on BALE numbers that time stock will be updated as well as EB-4 Register.
but the Problem is suppose out of 10 BALES they will raise delivery 7 BALES for export excise invoice but they send to the customer and customer will do Export for that we go for ARE-3 and remaining 3 BALES they will raise Local Excise Invoice
but i have created sales order as a domestic bcoz i have created 2 sales org like Domestic and export is there any problem like can we raise export excise invoice for domestic customer ?
If you any one having doubts please revert me
Try to give me the solution how to solve
Regards,
Prasanna

Export Scenarios in relates to job work

we r in Implementation phase and ur client hav 2 export-job work scenarios
scenarios 1)
first the customer giving Purchase order and packing material required for end product.
client creating SO for the end product
let us take final product requires 10 process and for 10th process is painting
ur client sending materail as job work to bangalore for painting with packaging material
after job work completion i.e paint work, the bangalore party raise the bill for painting
without receiving physically the product, ur client make an entry as received against job work.
now the product is laying at bangalore party itself.
ur client oppoint 1 CHA Agent(forwarding agent) who will take care complete export processing i.e
picking the product from bangalore party and sending to end customer germany.
the goods are kept in 1 warehouse at end customer place
the warehouse is owned by my client only and we are paying the rent for utilising of warehouse( we are not charging anything seperatly for warehouse i.e it includes in PO value only.
whenever the customer needs , he will pick the stock from ur warehouse ( liability changes whenever he pick the product) and he will inform the same then he will mail on receipt of material and he will pay thru online only.
Pls suggest in this process

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Job work senario,

I have a Job work scenario, material 999 goes to the sub contractor and comes back after processes and some more material is assembled to it , when it comes back it gets a new material no 888. how do I track the stock for 999 and which type of order do I create to job worker. or is there any other way i can handle this activity.

Hi
First In Transaction code; CS01 , Create BOM for material no :888 and in components provided list you give the material name ; 999
Then Create Subcontracting Info record in ME11
Create Sub contracting PO with Item catagory "L".... for material no:888
In PO, In Item details---->Material Data Tab--> Components Field----.>YOU can view the material which you want to send it to SC Vendor, ie) Material No:999 by default comes ....
Then save the PO
Next goto Transaction code: ME2O-----.>there you can issue the component material 999 to SC Vendor...the material will be transfered in 541 Movement type to SC Vendor...
Then after completion of the process, you can get back the new material no:888 from SC Vendor in Transaction code: MIGO in movement type 101....while you are doing GR, the component you provided to SC Vendor ,ie)Material no; 999 will be automatically consumed in 543 movement type.....
At any time,You can track the stock of 999 in Transaction codes, ME2O or MBLB or MMBE...
Hope I have clarified.
Reward if useful
Regards
S.Baskaran

Job Work (Reverse Scenario of Sub Contracting)

Hi Everybody,
Here is one scenario, I am sure, it will be mapped in Standard SAP, the scenario is like i am a job worker, I take the raw materials from the customer and create production order and use those raw materials supplied by the customers and charge the labour in the sales order, some times i even use some components from my stock for that also i will charge to the customer in the sales order, this is just opposite to sub contracting where i m purcahsing the labour and sending the raw materials out, this is the reverse i m taking the raw material and selling my labour, so i m basically the sub contract vendor
I want to take these material in my stock without value, at the same time i cannot create this materials as non valuated type as these material are used as valuated in other plants
If any one have any suggestion how to do in standard sap please let me know
i have one idea of vendor consignment, (Stock type K) but i m not sure how to map from sales order to production order, than take the raw materials from customer and use in the production.
If have any doubts about the scenario let me know
Thanks in advance
Edited by: Husain Husain on Feb 24, 2009 7:31 PM

Hi Everybody,
Here i have one scenario, I am sure it will be mapped in Standard SAP, the scenario is like my company does job work( Reverse subcon) for others, we take the raw materials from the customer and create production and use those raw materials supplied by the customers and charge for the processing in the sales order, some times we even add some components(Products) from my stock for that also i will charge to the customer in the sales order.
We are only billing for additional components and processing & Packing charges.
Please tell me, how can i map the scenario whether i have to create to separate sales document for selling product and processing charges. Selling product case even store issue components to products therefore no delivery.
If any one have any suggestion on how to do in standard sap please let me know.
If any doubts about the scenario please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Prashant

BOM SELECTION DURING CREATION OF JOB WORK PO

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In my scenario we are not running MRP so my problem is if i maintain two BOM for a halb material say ALT 1(for inhse prdn.) AND ALT 2(job work) .Now if i make a job work PO for this item the system by default picks the ALT1 always and i want to pick the ALT 2.There is no LOT size funda the item can anytime be produced inhse OR subcontracting.
R sehgal

Hi sehgal ,
i am giving one solution, but it works fine if you run MRP, same you can try with your case.
The right Bom can be selected by creating production version.
1. create two production versions for your HALB material, then assign your inhouse BOM for first production version, and assign Job work Bom to second production version. (MM01)
2. select Bom explosion indicator = 2 (selection by prodution version) in MRP view (MM01)
3.Then lock the first production version manually if you want do outside job work.
then create PO and check that correct BOM is selected as per your requirement.(MM01 - MRP view)
4 if you want to do inhouse prodution then unlock the first version, system will select first active version by default.
i hope this will solve your problem , otherwise ignore
regards
pardeep

Job Work with Payment of Excise Duty

Dear Gurus,
We have done full process of job work without payment of excise duty. but we also want job work with payment of excise duty. we didn't found any way to do this job.
When we make subcontracting entry with 541 mvt type and then make its excise challan with J1IF01, the all field related to excise value is disable thats why we can not put the value in it.
Please suggest something.
Regards
Pawan Sarda

Hi
As per my knowledge,If you are sending your material with full excise value to your subcontracting vendor means its one type of saleing
Here you are sending material material with excise duty means its sure you dont get back your material in 180 days ,so while doing finsihed material your vendor will send finsihded material along excise value and you will capture tha excise value
I think In this scenario subcontracting Challan don't come in Picture
steps are follows
subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Capture Vendor Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
Post Excise Invoice for FG received from Subcontractor (J1IEX)
Regards
Kailas Ugale

Job Work

Dear Friends,
Weu2019d sent 3.2 Qtls of material for Job Work. Excise Challan (J1IF01) was created with 3.2 Qtls. But only 2 Qtls were received due to burning loss. GRN was made for 2 Qtls. Weu2019ve reconciled the Excise challan (J1IFQ) with 2 Qtls. But when we are running J1IF13 to complete weu2019re not getting u201CComplete Challanu201D & u201CDo not Complete Challanu201D options. Instead weu2019re getting u201CReverse Challanu201D & u201CDo not reverse Challanu201D. Moreover in J1IFR 1 (One) Qty is showing as pending & also due for reversal.
Our issue is that how can we get u201CComplete Challanu201D & u201CDo not Complete Challanu201D options in J1IF13? And what to do in SAP, so that in J1IFR Qty Pending & Qty due for reversal shd be ZERO even if qty send was 3.2 Qtls & received 2 Qtls? Please tell the whole process in such scenario. Plz help.
Thank you very much.

Hi
The reason for the above case is that u have not recieved all the items in the challan .ie there is pendind quantity of 1.2 against the challan .so in such cases what u need to do is
1) recieve 1.2 kgs through movement type 542 and then take a concious decision whether to scrap the material( 551 movement)
2) run J1IFQ for the 542 document and the challan
3) now go to J1IF13 and complete the challan( U can find the complete radio button)
Note : for any Incomplete challans u can only reverse or donot reverse and cannot complete the challan

Return of customer job work

Hi gurus,
i have another scenario regarding return in customer job work,
if a customer is sending us a material for painting we are taking that material as customer job work where we follow the following steps
sales order--goods received of raw materialproduction planning- delivery---- invoice
now say if the customer finds that the outcome was not satisfactory then he is going to return the finished material back to us and again we will make it proper and send it back to the customer and we have to deliver it free of cost or may be we will take some charges.
so can any one tell me how can i map this job work return scenario.
looking forward for your reply.
Regards,
Subhrangshu

hi,
there is an process called REWORK ORDER in SAP BB.
please check under the name of V45
there is a BLOG written by brahmakumar please check it
this might be help ful to you.
regards,
balajia
Edited by: balaji timmampalli achari on Nov 13, 2010 3:41 AM

Customer goods receipt for Job work

Dear Experts:
1.Material received from customer with challan for job work.
How to handle this scenario.
Regards,
Sridhar.N

Hi,
You could use serial number concept or bacth managment here to separate within the material code.
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Need ED for job work material

Dear Sir,
We have a scenario like, we are sending material to Vendor for job work and he is sending back the same material without adding any materials in it but he is collecting Excise Duty as well as service charge. Now for service charge I will rise service P.O and for excise duty I will rise ordinary P.O. but at the time of GRN and MIRO transaction material value should not flow, only Excise duty to be posted in MRO transaction. Please provide your suggestions.
Thanks,
Manoj

Hi,
Why is it necessary for you to pay excise duty. Subcontracting is exempt from Excise duty if the raw materials have been converted to finish materials and the same returned within 180 days. This requires the creation of a Subcontracting challan.
The steps are as follows:
ME21N- Create Subcontracting PO with Item category as "L" and provide BOM inside.
MB1B - Transfer posting components with respect to PO.
J1IF01 - Create Subcontracting Challan
MIGO - Goods Receipt of Finish Material in 101 and consumption of components in 543 movement type.
J1IFQ - Reconciliation of Challan.
J1IF13 - Completion of Challan.
J1IFR - Annexure IV Report
MIRO - Invoice for conversion charges(Service charges).
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Binoy

Job work to customer

Dear Sir,
We are doing Job Work to Customers, in this case Customer is sending their material for job work, we undertake job work and finish whatever they asked and send the material back to them along with the scrap.
How do we map this scenario in SAP for inward of material.
Thanks & Regards
Amit karalkar

Dear Sir,
We are doing Job Work to Customers, in this case Customer is sending their material for job work, we undertake job work and finish whatever they asked and send the material back to them along with the scrap.
How do we map this scenario in SAP for inward of material.
Thanks & Regards
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Job work Return

Hi Friends
I am facing one problem regarding process tracking. Well scenario is we receive our semifinish from vendor after job work.Some of job work material are not fully furnished some times it s not polished well etc... Now my client again sent this material to Job worker for rework against subcontracting challan. Now i am making a return delivery against GR but system is not allowing me to raise subcontracting challan against this document.So kindly guide me how track this process.
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Vivek
Edited by: Supergene on Feb 28, 2008 3:12 PM
Waiting for your reply...

Hi,
You should allow 542 in mvmt type grouping for issues in customizing for Subcontracting in CIN (logistice general).
Then u will be able to create a challan with this material document.
Regards
Krishna

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