Job work to customer
Dear Sir,
We are doing Job Work to Customers, in this case Customer is sending their material for job work, we undertake job work and finish whatever they asked and send the material back to them along with the scrap.
How do we map this scenario in SAP for inward of material.
Thanks & Regards
Amit karalkar
Dear Sir,
We are doing Job Work to Customers, in this case Customer is sending their material for job work, we undertake job work and finish whatever they asked and send the material back to them along with the scrap.
How do we map this scenario in SAP for inward of material.
Thanks & Regards
Amit karalkar
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Customer Standard & returns Process for Job work Scenario issue
Hi,
According to My Job Work Scenarios
Customer will give the Raw material like Grey (Non Valuated material )
Normal Process :
Once we created a sales order for 100 meters , at the time of production completion the finished stock will be increased or decreased like 110 meters or 90 meters
1. At the time Delivery how system will accept over delivery and under delivery . i have seen the 2 fields in customer master where we will we maintain the Percentages how system will determined
2. Billing will be done by based on delivery qty and after that i have to raise the Excise invoice based on billing level
my doubt is how can we know or Track this sale order we delivered qty less or over ? is there any report available in standard SAP ? how to close the sales orders ? is there any mass close of sales orders ?
3. At the time of Excise invoice they want to enter the Assessable manually how to do in SAP ?
Return Process:
1. we will raise the Return Order based on document type RE , but in my case client will take the Return Goods and he will give the price of raw material like Grey how i am going to handle this situation ?
2.How to process the excise related activities what the settings i have to do and what are the t-codes ( I think we can use J1IH ) i have to use
3. What the documents will be generated
Please guide me because i searched in Forum i couldn't able to find out
is there any solution ?
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna_sap on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PMMy answers are in BOLD. I have done some tests and my advise is based on the tests.
First of all Thanks for Reply Mr.Typewriter,
According to My Job Work Scenarios
Customer will give the Raw material like Grey (Non Valuated material )
Normal Process :
Once we created a sales order for 100 meters , at the time of production completion the finished stock will be increased or decreased like 110 meters or 90 meters
1. At the time Delivery how system will accept over delivery and under delivery . i have seen the 2 fields in customer master where we will we maintain the Percentages how system will determined
Yes you can have limits to over and underdelivery in XD01 or VD51, depending upon either you want to give limits for a customer or for a cust-mat combination
Can you please explain because my doubt is if i entered manually system will accept i want to restrict the end-user like for example he can enter over delivery 10 % and under delivery 5 % where i have to fix those percentage because if i am not fix End-User can enter sometimes over delivery 11 % and under delivery 10 % system will accept i want to restrict that
3 steps -
1. in VD51 create cus-mat info record, go inside the record by double clicking - give Underdelivery % & Overdelivery %, Save.
2. in 0VLP, for your delivery item category, in field "Check Overdelivery" = B (Situation rejected with error)
3. in OVM1, for message VL 064 change to E (error), this is for Underdelivery
Now if sales order is created for 100EA. Underdelivery and Overdelivery = 10%
Then user can NOT create delivery e.g. for 80EA or for 150EA.
I have tested this.
2. Billing will be done by based on delivery qty and after that i have to raise the Excise invoice based on billing level
my doubt is how can we know or Track this sale order we delivered qty less or over ? is there any report available in standard SAP ? how to close the sales orders ? is there any mass close of sales orders ?
In sales order in VA03, item level, Tab Schedule line - there you can see clearly Ordered Quantity and Delivered Quantity
Even if it is Over or under delivery also
Yes, see point 1
The status of the order you can set/configure, if in XD02, in Tab Shipping, field = Partial delivery / item
status can also be configured in VD52, field = Partial delivery / item
This way you do not have to manually close the sales order, even if you have underdelivered. Select the option (A, B,...) which fits your business requirement best.
3. At the time of Excise invoice they want to enter the Assessable manually how to do in SAP ?
what about the solution for this point
I don't know this point's answer
Return Process:
1. we will raise the Return Order based on document type RE , but in my case client will take the Return Goods and he will give the price of raw material like Grey how i am going to handle this situation ?
Explain this more. (what are material you have sent to customer & what material he is wanting to pay for; are they different MMRs?)
Two ways -
One have different cond records with different MMR and prices (if Finished mat = M1, and raw material = M2); in MM01, Tab Sales org 1, you can have Sales Unit changes set.
Second have a different pricing procedure for RE and another for OR.
Customer will give the Grey Material ( Non - Valuated ), we send the finished Material to customer correct , Due to some reason customer return the Finished Goods that time Client will pay the Grey material value
1 Questions -
e.g. Grey mat = M2
Finished goods = M1
Q1. RE order shall have different material #s from sales orders, because RE shall have grey mat. & OR shall have Finished mat. Is that correct?
Then - cond records in VK11 for different materials, for con type PR00 for M1 and M2; this is possible.
2.How to process the excise related activities at the time of returns what the settings i have to do and what are the t-codes ( I think we can use J1IH if yes guide me based on that )
What is the solution for this point
I do not know this answer
3. What the documents will be generated
Are you asking documents to be generated for RE process? Delivery note has to be printed for the warehouse to do GR
I mean at the time returns is there any excise related documents will be updated if yes tell me what are the documents ?
I do not know this answer
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: Typewriter on Jul 13, 2011 1:43 AM -
HI
We have new scenerio for JOB WORK PROCESS
Customer will provide us the Raw Material and on proccessing it we will produce two diffrent finish goods
which will be billed to that customer through JOB ORDER
Can anyone tell us how to configure process into SAP .
Regards
PRhi
Create Sales Order. And Purchase requisitionVA01,Check stock / requirements situation for finished product. MD04
Check list of Purchase requisition ME5A
Create Subcontracting order with reference to the Purchase Requisition ME21N
MD04
Post Goods Isue w.r.t to Subcontracting Order MB1B
Create Subcontracting Challan 4.5/4.6 J1IF01
Create Billing Document VF01
Post goods receipt with reference to purchase order MIGO
Post invoice verification MIRO
this is process for job work ,
this is for one proces another process as same for this document but this maintain the
va01-vl01n(movement type 541)-j1if01 her u can cant maintanin any prise
ofter comes to finshed product ,
u can maintian this process: jobwork charges
va01_vl01n_vf01_j1iin
u maintain the settings for vov8 delivary type only,
in this process u can matain the vov8 for one document type ( it for only internaloreder jobwork)
ofter jobwork chages vov8;maintain normaly
for job work for other material /(rawmaterial) u maintain tcode for j1id - maitain the assessable value for revelant material and plant, and matain subcontract activae in material and chepted id comination,
this cin setting
so u maintain the
two ordr type one is jobwork internal order
another one is job work charges
and also maintain the copy controls(internla order)
Order requirements : 001
Combination requirmt: 051
Header Data : 001
Header Data Ext. Sys : 0
Handling Units : 000
u maintian thia routines for header
Sales doc. type: jobwork internal ord
Item category : Job work item
Order requirements: 101 Item
Item data: 901 Item(101 div change)
Item Ext. System : 0
Business data ; 2 Business Data
this for item details for copy contols
as same of internal order
here comes billing
it for coman billings routines -
Hi gurus,
i have another scenario regarding return in customer job work,
if a customer is sending us a material for painting we are taking that material as customer job work where we follow the following steps
sales order--goods received of raw materialproduction planning- delivery---- invoice
now say if the customer finds that the outcome was not satisfactory then he is going to return the finished material back to us and again we will make it proper and send it back to the customer and we have to deliver it free of cost or may be we will take some charges.
so can any one tell me how can i map this job work return scenario.
looking forward for your reply.
Regards,
Subhrangshuhi,
there is an process called REWORK ORDER in SAP BB.
please check under the name of V45
there is a BLOG written by brahmakumar please check it
this might be help ful to you.
regards,
balajia
Edited by: balaji timmampalli achari on Nov 13, 2010 3:41 AM -
Ssinging service tax assignment to customer for job work taxinn
dear sir
assinging service tax assignment to customer for job work taxinn,procedure ,kindly give me step by step procedure
thanksHi,
Enter the correct tax code or maintain the Tax code VR in the transaction code FTXP.
Regards,
Manish -
Customer goods receipt for Job work
Dear Experts:
1.Material received from customer with challan for job work.
How to handle this scenario.
Regards,
Sridhar.NHi,
You could use serial number concept or bacth managment here to separate within the material code.
Regards -
JOB WORK CHALLAN - CONFIGURATION related issue with client .
HI FRIENDS ,
CLIENT PROCESS
STAGE 1: CLIENT SENDING THE SEMI-FINISHED MATERIAL UNDER JOB WORK CHALLAN ( 57-F ) TO JOB-WORKER.
LET SAY 1000
STAGE 2: ONCE JOB-WORKER RENDERING (AFTER POLISHING-CLIENT REQ ) THE MATERIAL ,THEY WILL INTIMATE TO THE CLIENT BY MAIL OR PHONE.
LET SAY 500 ON 1.1.2012 , 500 ON 2.1.2012
STAGE 3: CLIENT RAISE THE INVOICE AGAINST CUSTOMER DEPENDS ON MATERIAL QUANTITY . AND SEND IT THROUGH MAIL TO JOB-WORKER.
STAGE 4 : JOB-WORKER DELIVERS THE MATERIAL TO CUSTOMER DIRECTLY( NOT TO CLIENT PLACE) ALONG WITH CLIENT INVOICE COPY.
STAGE 5 : JOB-WORKER UPDATE THE CHALLAN & RAISE THE INVOICE AGAINST THE SERVICE TO THE CLIENT .
REQUIREMENT :
1. HOW TO MAP THIS PROCESS IN SAP IN DETAIL?
2. HOW TO SHOW THE INVENTORY IN CLIENT'S PLANT?
3. DOES IT COMES UNDER RG1 REGISTRY(WHAT ARE THE DOCUMENTS NEED TO UPDATE )?This is very sorted out topic.
You can find lot of link, which you can search with search term "JOB WORK".
Have look on some of the links, which I can suggest:
- SDN Article on [Direct Subcontracting Process (SAP SD & MM)|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/d0dbde93-6fa4-2c10-edb9-e477fa85b232]
- subcontracting
- Job work in SD subcontracting.
- SD - Subcontracting
Follow following path in IMG for Subcontraction Configuration:
SPRO - Logistics General - Tax on Goods Movements - India - Business Transactions - Subcontracting - Subcontracting Attributes
There Excise TT to follow is 57FC.
Regards
JP -
Query regarding Job work senario in India
dear all,
i am facing a strange problem
i m having some Customer who sent material on (4)(5) a or 57F4 challan for job work. In that case only labour charges are charged no excise duty will charged, but how i will take the material "in" in to system,from which transaction code and which movement type i used. Also the storage location should be different for that ?
It Dose not hit the RG1 Register.
can any body help me to solve this
please please solve the problem
regards
pankaj
[email protected]Dear Pankaj
1. Then i will suggest to use DIEN Material type , which will not be valuated, as
it is customer's stock
2. Then you recieve the material from Customer, which is non-valuated.
This you can do in MIGO.
3 Then you make a production order with BOM, where component will
be material given by customer and FG will be Material you are going
to send along with byproducts.
3. Once material is process(or produced) then you can make a seperate jobwork sales order type and deliver it
4. Finally bill it for services rendered.
If you use Services you will not get stock of customer's material in the system.
But if you use non valuated material you can get the stock. So ask if stock
is required???
As no excise entries are required you need no worry about CIN part
I hope it is clear....
Regards
Jitesh -
Dear All
My client have a requirement.... they have got empty bottles and their logo we have to just paste them and send it back, so its a matter of JOB WORK in SAP SD, here the customer and Vendor is same, so how can I map this in sap.
Matter is most urgent,
Thanks and Regards
DeepankarDear expert
Here the scenerio is like this-
1] The Material will be received under job work, hence it is non-excisable, it should be return within 180 days from the date of supplier challan date.
2] In case of Breakages or scrap of Bottles, Customer/Supplier will provide us 2-3% allowance.
3] Supplier will provide the plain Bottle in Plastic Crate, same will be returned to him. No need of any packaging.
4] For Pricing, Base Price will be decided by Marketing Team. Service Tax - 10% of Base Price, Ecess - 2% on Service Tax, S/HEcess - 1% on Service Tax, Thus pricing will be done.
5] For Invoicing the procedure required in SAP with reference to Service Tax. only Heading display INVOICE instead of Tax invoice & separate series of Invoice will be required.
How to map this in SAP SD module
I am new hence need help on urgent basis
Thanks and regards
Deepankar -
Export Scenarios in relates to job work
we r in Implementation phase and ur client hav 2 export-job work scenarios
scenarios 1)
first the customer giving Purchase order and packing material required for end product.
client creating SO for the end product
let us take final product requires 10 process and for 10th process is painting
ur client sending materail as job work to bangalore for painting with packaging material
after job work completion i.e paint work, the bangalore party raise the bill for painting
without receiving physically the product, ur client make an entry as received against job work.
now the product is laying at bangalore party itself.
ur client oppoint 1 CHA Agent(forwarding agent) who will take care complete export processing i.e
picking the product from bangalore party and sending to end customer germany.
the goods are kept in 1 warehouse at end customer place
the warehouse is owned by my client only and we are paying the rent for utilising of warehouse( we are not charging anything seperatly for warehouse i.e it includes in PO value only.
whenever the customer needs , he will pick the stock from ur warehouse ( liability changes whenever he pick the product) and he will inform the same then he will mail on receipt of material and he will pay thru online only.
Pls suggest in this processclose
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Job Work Scenario / process mapping is required
Hi Experts,
This is the following system how the client is doing in legacy system and they want like that in SAP. is it possible in SAP?
1. With out sales order they are doing the production ( customer will give Grey material )
2. once production is done they packed the finished material into BALE wise that time they will maintain the bale packing slip for each bale wise
3. They will raise the commercial invoice based on the bale packing slip
4. once payment is done then only they can delivery the goods
5. At the time of delivery again they will refer bale packing slip for that particular customer and they select the bales numbers and once it is picked stock will be updated and as well as E.B-4 Register will be updated .
6. One IMPORTANT Point is at the time of delivery some bales like suppose out of 10 bales 7 bales will go to export and 3 bales local (domestic )
7. At the time of excise invoice for 7 bales they will raise excise Invoice (example number series 01E1220) and 3 bales domestic excise invoice ( example number series 01L1390) , in both the cases they are referring the delivery numbers
but one more point directly client is not doing export they are sending to customer and customer is exporting
8. How to map in the above cases pricing procedure and excise will calculate based on the (Job work Charges + Assessable
I need guidance how to solve the issue
I created 2 Sales Org like Domestic and Export
if any further information please revert
Regards,
PrasannaFirst of all Thanks for reply,
Sorry for the Late reply
Here sales unit is in Meters and RG 1 Register also will be updated in Meters , EB-4 Register will be updated in Bales wise
now i am explaining
1. first customer will give the Grey material after one week and one month customer will give the program ( program means how he wants finished product ) for that program we designed new screen with Z-Table and also we designed program register new screen
2. once we receive the grey material and program qty that time i will raise the sales order for program qty how much he wants and also for one program we will raise more than one sales order
3. once production is completed partially they will pack the material into BALE wise suppose
sales order qty is like that
10 CO056864PL48M 2*2 Dyeing 48" Medium 100 meters
20 CO056864PL48D 2*2 Dyeing 48" Dark 200 meters
30 CO056864PL48ED 2*2 Dyeing 48" Extra Dark 300 meters
40 CO057272PL62W 2*2 Dyeing 62" White 280 meters
once production is done for the above sales order they packed into BALE wise like
BALE Number 100 :
10 CO056864PL48M 2*2 Dyeing 48" Medium 50 meters
20 CO056864PL48D 2*2 Dyeing 48" Dark 105.50 meters
BALE Number 101 :
20 CO056864PL48D 2*2 Dyeing 48" Dark 90 meters
30 CO056864PL48ED 2*2 Dyeing 48" Extra Dark 168 meters
40 CO057272PL62W 2*2 Dyeing 62" White 180 meters
like wise they will pack BALES once bale is packed for that particular BALE(S) they will raise the Commercial Invoice
Once payment is done may be customer will ask the delivery after 2 or 3 months they will raise the delivery based on the BALE numbers and also we done the new Screen Design for BALE in that they will get customer wise list of BALES
and also they don't refer multiple Sales orders they refer only BALE register from that they want to pick the material and also once they picked the material based on BALE numbers that time stock will be updated as well as EB-4 Register.
but the Problem is suppose out of 10 BALES they will raise delivery 7 BALES for export excise invoice but they send to the customer and customer will do Export for that we go for ARE-3 and remaining 3 BALES they will raise Local Excise Invoice
but i have created sales order as a domestic bcoz i have created 2 sales org like Domestic and export is there any problem like can we raise export excise invoice for domestic customer ?
If you any one having doubts please revert me
Try to give me the solution how to solve
Regards,
Prasanna -
Pricing Procedure is required for Job work
Hi every one,
Job Work : Pricing Procedure
Excise Duties : BEDAEDSEDEdu.CESSHigher Edu.CESS
Excise Duties will be calculated based on { Job work Charges + Insurance Charges + Add. Processing Charges+ Customer Grey Material value (assessable Value ) }
Broker Commission : Brokerage will be calculated based on { Job work Charges + Insurance Charges + Add. Processing Charges } and also this value should add to any other values
Rebate : That is Qty Rebate and also that value also not added to any other value
VAT : { Job work Charges + Insurance Charges + Add. Processing Charges+ Customer Grey Material value (assessable Value ) + ED }
And also we are using TAXINN tax procedure
For Commission : Condition type are ZCOM,ZCO1,ZCO2
For Rebate : Condition Type ZO02
For Insurance Charges condition Type is ZINS
For Add.processing Charges condtion type is ZAPC
Kindly Give me the solution how to map into SAP that pricing Structure
Regards,
PrasannaHi,
The following is the solution
10 .Job Work Charges or Processing Charges ZJOB : per 1 meter = 25.50 Rs (Mandatory)
20. Insurance Charges ZINS : per 1 meter = 0.75 Rs (Mandatory)
30. Additional Processing Charges ZAPC : Per 1 meter = 0.25 Rs (Optional means Manual Entry )
35. Job work + Insurance + Add.processing charges = from 10 , To 30
37. Rebate Basis
40. Customer Assessable value JASS : per 1 meter = 45.50 Rs ( they want to enter Customer grey value at the time Excise Invoice and i m not sure how to map into SAP in which transaction they have to maintain the customer grey value )
50. total value (Basic price for Excise Calculation) = from 35 To 40
60 . BED Duty JEXP (Percentage) = from 50
70. AED Duty JEAP (Percentage) = from 50
80 . SED Duty JESP (Percentage) = from 50
90. Edu .cess Duty JECS (percentage ) = From 60
100. Higher Edu Cess Duty JHES (percentage ) = From 60 ( I created new condition type bcoz i couldn't able find out )
110. Total ED = From 60 , To 109
120. Total Vale (Including Excise Duties) = From 110, To 119
125. Total value (Basic price for Excise Calculation) From 50
130 . Total Charges W/O VAT From 120 , To 129
135. JLST = From 130
137 JCST = From 130
138. Gross Value = From 130, To 137
140. Material Rebate ZO02 = from 37 ( this value is not add to any other value ) (Statistical )
150 . Commission ZCOM = From 35 ( This value also not add to any other value ) (Statistical )
160. Commission ZCO1 = From 35 ( This value also not add to any other value) (Statistical )
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna_sap on Aug 14, 2011 12:37 PM
Edited by: prasanna_sap on Aug 14, 2011 12:45 PM -
Solution for job work material
Dear All,
Please provide me what is the best solution or procudure for job work material (for production), also confirm me what effect of component price in Bom.
ThanksHi vivek!
Thanks for your reply..
But what is the need of creating PO's.. I am simply receiving the material(non-valuated) form the customer and do some service in it and send it back to him.. I will process this via sales.. But my question is whether should i create a material master for each time i receive a new material since its one time job and weekly we r receiving around 100 new materials.
Thanks,
Raj. -
Sap Guru
I want to know is there any report to display order where customer has given that order for job work.I dont know whether you are using a separate sale document type for Job Work orders. We do so and hence it is possible to generate a report. Another differentiating factor will be requirements type or item category in Job Work orders. Again you need to check whether system is configured that way. If so, then you can goto SE16 and give VBAP to check the job work orders.
Regards,
GSL. -
Material master for job work material
Hi all!
We are doing only job work for our customers and the products are not regular one . Its a one time job work.. i.e each time different material will come.. So each time i cant create a material master since the frequency is high That is we receive 100 different materials per week and do job work on that and send.. Same material will not repeat again..So how can we substitute of creating material master each time.. What is the solution for this?
Thanks in advance,
Raj.Hi vivek!
Thanks for your reply..
But what is the need of creating PO's.. I am simply receiving the material(non-valuated) form the customer and do some service in it and send it back to him.. I will process this via sales.. But my question is whether should i create a material master for each time i receive a new material since its one time job and weekly we r receiving around 100 new materials.
Thanks,
Raj.
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