Joomla o Drupal?

Hola Foreros,
Actualmente voy a empezar un sitio de tamaño mediano que
requerira en el
futuro expandirse a tienda en linea. El cliente
ingresará productos y
algunos eventos. Por lo que creo que es mejor utilizar un
WCMS como Drupal
o Joomla ¿Alguno de Ustedes tiene alguna experiencia que
pueda compartir en
cual de los dos podría ser más flexible?
¿Qué interface es más amigable para el
cliente?
He oído muy buenas cosas de Drupal pero creo que Joomla
es un poco más
popular ¿Uds. qué opinan?
Por el momento estoy leyendo un par de libros acerca de
Joomla, "Building
Websites with Joomla! 1.5" y "Joomla! A User's Guide" y uno
en Drupal "Pro
Drupal Development" Pero como el tiempo se me viene encima
debo escorger lo
antes posible y enfocarme en uno de los dos WCMS.
saludos

Bueno hablo de memoria pero a saber cosas que hace Magento y
que puede que
ya tenga oscommerce:
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
Soporte para pago con tarjeta de crédito: Authorize.net
y Paypal Payflow
Pro.
Soporte para métodos de envío. Integración en
tiempo real con: UPS, FedEx,
y USPS.
Soporte para tiendas multi-lenguaje.
Capacidad para múltiples tipo de moneda.
Review de productos.
Capacidad de envío de notificaciones por email.
Buscador básico y avanzado.
Facilidad para comparar productos.
Soporte para asignar tags a los productos y generación
de un tagcloud o
nube de tags.
Carrito de compras completo
Y cosas que creo que no tiene OsCommerce pero sí
Magento, ojo hablo de
memoria por lo que igual hay cosas que son compatibles:
Crear múltiples tiendas, ideal si tienes varios
distribuidores y son ellos
los que ponen el precio de cada producto
Crear distintos tipos de clientes, es decir, poder
clasificarlos como
particulares, empresas, tiendas..etc. para ofrecerles precios
distintos
según su clasificación.
Es decir, que con estas 2 principales características
puedes definir el
precio según el país y el tipo de usuario cosa que
con oscommerce no (de la
versión oficial claro).
Respecto a la seguridad... bueno todos sabemos que son
aplicaciones
libres... por lo que es mejor utilizar web cifrada, vamos
certificados SSL.
Un saludo y gracias por tu comentario
Lucas Sevilla
www.lucassevilla.info
"speculumcm" <[email protected]> ha escrit al missatge
news:[email protected]...
> ¡Excelente cátedra!
>
> Muchas gracias por este mensaje. Estaba a punto de
seleccionar
> Joomla+VirtueMart para un catálogo en línea
que me han encargado pero en
> el que no tienen nada de prisa en su creación. Lo
que me hizo dudar un
> poco de esta elección fue que en el manual de
usuario de VM tiene esta
> advertencia:
> "VirtueMart es una sencilla aplicación Online-Shop.
Pero seguramente no es
> una aplicación "out-of-the-box" profesional para
empresas. No esta 100%
> probada en entornos seguros. No pretende tener un 100%
de rendimiento.
> Se necesita algo de tiempo para personalizar esta
aplicación para
> satisfacer sus necesidades.
> Esté preparado para ser confrontados con los
errores, que actualmente no
> han sido encontrados todavía."
>
> Bueno aunque es un manual en inglés algo viejo,
para Joomla 1.0, no sé que
> tanto se aplique ahora.
>
> Pero gracias a tu comentario (ya había escuchado
maravillas de Drupal)
> pero con lo que me acabas de decir, definitivamente es
la aplicación a
> estudiar.
>
> Cambiando un poco el tema, pero dentro del mismo campo,
tengo otro encargo
> que si urge más y es lo de la tienda online.
Después de mucho buscar y
> jugar con esta y aquella aplicación la que más
me ha fascinado es Magento,
> caray, me ha dado tan buena pinta que ya hasta estoy
participando en la
> traducción al español de México.
> Y es que al principio lo vi muy pesado y no cualquier
hosting lo admite,
> pero eso ya esta resuelto. Echale un vistazo a su
arquitectura RDBMS
> (Sistemas de gestión de base de datos relacional),
es el sueño de
> cualquier desarrollador principiante como yo :) ¿Tu
que opinas de Magento?
>
> Saludos y encantado de leerte.
>
>
> Lucas Sevilla wrote:
>> Bueno, antes que nada hay que diferenciar bien que
es cada cosa.
>>
>> Joomla! es un sistema de administración de
contenidos de código abierto
>> construido con PHP bajo una licencia GPL.
>>
>> Drupal por su parte, es un sistema de gestión
de contenido para sitios
>> Web.
>>
>> La principal diferencia es que Drupal es 100%
accesible y todos sus
>> complementos (plugins, extras.. como lo querais
llamar) son oficiales y
>> entre otras cosas esta apoyado por empresas como
Google e IBM entre otras
>> además de ser mucho más seguro que Joomla!
y similares.
>>
>> Por otra parte, podemos diferenciarlo aún mas
enfocando esta diferencia
>> en la definición que ellos hacen a la
aplicación.
>>
>> Joomla! se ofrece como un sistema de
administración y si nos referimos a
>> la afección cinco de "administrar" de la RAE,
administrar es
>> <<Suministrar, proporcionar o distribuir
algo.>>, sin embargo, Drupal se
>> ofrece como un sistema de gestión y según
la RAE, "gestionar" es <<Hacer
>> diligencias conducentes al logro de un negocio o de
un deseo
>> cualquiera.>>.
>>
>> Por lo que si hacemos caso al significado de las
palabras podemos definir
>> claramente, Joomla! nos permite administrar los
contenidos de una
>> determinada forma y Drupal nos permite gestionar el
contenido deseado.
>>
>> Como ves hay una gran diferencia. También
comentarte que con Drupal has
>> de saber programar o al menos tener conocimientos
mínimos, porque te
>> haran falta, pero sin duda es mucho más
potente, eficiente, seguro y
>> "accesible".
>>
>> Para convencerte de su eficacia, seguridad y
usabilidad puedes mirar los
>> siguientes links:
>>
>> PODCASTS en inglés:
>>
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=YG0uMAWB3RG0qIFnpgt1Yg
>>
>> COMUNIDAD DE USUARIOS DE DRUPAL en español:
www.drupal.org.es
>>
>> Un saludo
>>

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    I have used HostExcellence in the past and they support all the CMS's including WordPress, so you should have no problems there.
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    I have used all of them in the past, but most recently Joomla and Drupal.  Drupal has a reputation for being quite hard and Drupal 6 was, but with the advent of Drupal 7, things got a lot easier.  There are a lot more themes that you can use and if you want increased functionality in Drupal, then you can download Modules and install them.  You can have a membership site if you want it and this is easy to do - people can sign up for an account and you can restrict their access to certain parts of the site and then limit what they can do.  You can allow people to complete forms on the site itself and the results to be sent to you.  There is a Blog module that you can enable and that comes in Drupal Core with no need to download an extra module.
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    Check out the others though at Drupal.org, Joomla.org and then WordPress.org.

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    What drag and drop theme or framwork are you using?
    What version of software and theme, what type of hosting, what version of PHP and mySQL?
    I'm having similar issues but details such as these will go a long way to grouping symptoms and getting to the bottom of the problem(s).
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    There are forum posts for v7 that say Safari isn't compatible with WordPress for example.  It is compatible and works just fine, but if you're running the latest version of Catalist Theme and their Dynamic Site Builder you can't do anything with Dynamic admin because all its options are on a single page which appears to be too much for Safari 7 to handle for some reason.  Folks are having similar problems with Genesis, Headway Theme, Pagelines and many others.

  • Where to go next with Dreamweaver and server-side (php/mysql) applications?

    This question is mainly directed at David Powers but  I appreciate any input from anyone with the same concern or question.
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    I own most of David's books and in fact, it was because of these that I have any idea about what I'm doing and went in this direction in my "developer" career (building php/mysql applications using Dreamweaver.)
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    rjjacob wrote:
    Since I wrote this post I concluded that there is no substitute for understanding and have started my re-education by delving further into the issue with updated PHP/MySQL books and tutorials so I can prepare for a Dreamweaver without this functionality.
    Yes, I too have concluded that is the way to go as well. There really is no substitute for learning as much as you can. Whilst the DW Server Behaviours were very convenient they have not kept pace, Adobe prefering to spent their time on less important updates in my opinion. The Server Behaviours are what makes Dreamweaver the tool of choice  for database integration for those who lack the knowledge. I feel the Adobe team will regret not coming up with an alternative. Anything that detracts from making the program what it is is a step in the wrong direction and for sure this is a big step in the wrong direction.
    rjjacob wrote:
    I have mainly used DW server behaviors in my development projects that's why I am curious about what others are doing to make the change. I'm surprised there haven't been more posts; perhaps I'm the last one to be taking action about this, or maybe no one is too worried about it yet.
    I think a lot have changed their working practice but many more are burying their heads in the sand. sql_ support is a way off from being completely dropped yet.
    rjjacob wrote:
    Anyway, your assessment of how terrible the server behaviors are is correct. I'm finding that true after barely breaking the binding on a few books about the greater subject and looking into mysqli and PDO.
    Yes, because I relied heavily on them I did not know how bad they were until I forced myself to look further afield. What you can do in a couple of lines of code the DW Server Behaviors produced quadruple or more to achieve the same.
    rjjacob wrote:
    But they sure were convenient!
    Yes, I agree. Maybe some extention developer will come up with a set of new improved behaviours. I tell you if they do they will make a shed load of money.

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