.jpg and raw not stacking

Hi,
I have the preferences set to NOT show the .jpg side by side with raw and yet they are doing so in some folders. Any ideas why this would be true and how to overcome the situation?
b

You must be talking about the Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos option in Preferences... I think you might have misunderstood it.
When it's ON: Lightroom will import RAW+JPEG from your camera as two separate files. No link between them whatsoever.
When it's OFF: Lightroom will import both, but the JPEG version will be hidden. You'll only see the raw files (though it will be marked as RAW+JPEG) and make adjustments on the raw files.

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That is puzzling, Kirby - I have always seen the filename extension in Aperture; in the Inspector Info panel, the Viewer, the Browser.
I tested again with raw+jpeg pairs, to see, if there is something peculiar about pairs - if Aperture thinks, the filetype should be clear from badge, but I am seeing the extension always.
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Bugs that occur when jpg and RAW with same name together in same folder. (have not tested for psd, tif etc.
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2. You cannot move the jpg properly within the folder in grid mode.
Most of my landscape shots need to go to photoshop. I developed a nice workflow which integrates PS quite well with LR...see post here:
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc34679/5
I created the workflow so that I could retain same name RAW/jpg stacks in the same folder. I have altered the workflow slightly so the jpg gets autorenamed with filename_# ... see the link above.
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Cornelia-I wrote:
Hello Guy gswarbrick,
I am not sure I understand where your current workflow with the JPGs saves you time:
Do you load them into your LR catalog, and do you do the ratings and crops there?
Then for selling on the web you export the JPGs thusly edited from LR?
Do you use a laptop on site/in the field for this?
I am just wondering, where you would actually loose time if your workflow would be the following:
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Define a default develop setting for RAWs that matches your camera's JPG-conversion pretty fine, so that the result would be almost identical without any explicit develop edit.
Define a default export setting for your JPGs to be sold on the web on the day: choose the quality, the size (resizing rules) fit for web, colour space most probably sRGB, ... (no adding to the catalog)
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Only import RAWs, no JPGs at all. [Do you fear this takes longer than imprting the JPGs?]
Do the quick stuff during the day like you do today on the JPGs, just on the RAWs. Should also be rating/labeling and cropping, nothing more thanks to your prepared default develop settings.
...Compared to any option with ExifTool or the like for the final RAW-work (4.) you would definitely save the time there.
So the question is: would you really loose time during the critical phase on shooting day?
I guess not, provided your default develop settings achieve pretty much your camera's jpg-conversion. You may need to experiment a little there, make these defaults specific to ISO ranges and camera serial number if you shoot with several cameras, but once this prep is done there should be no more substantial delay.
Unless you post the images directly from camera to the web without passing through LR catalog. Or your field laptop would be of very low spec.
Where to start? Let's start with my laptop; it's about the highest spec available, coupled with Sandisk Extreme Pro cards and a high speed card reader. What about my fear that importing the RAWs would take longer than the JPGs? Well, a small, basic JPG is about 500k, the equivalent uncompressed RAW file is 12Mb, so I reckon about 24x as long to import - give or take. Plus the time to render the RAW file, which isn't required for the JPG. And that's assuming I'm not adding default develop settings, which have a small but not insignificant overhead. For that reason, the RAW imports are usually done after the events or during (rare) breaks.
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Hoping someone out there will have the answer to this.
Just come back from a long trip with thousands of pics in RAW, I like to use Canon DPP to generate the JPGs quickly and to give me Canons interpretation on the RAW image. (Apparently same processing as in camera).
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2.) Which is edited?
Raw only.
... and at the same time I feel I need to be able to compare them.
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jim01403 wrote:
trshaner wrote:
For this typical example 98% of the image files are transferred while LR is building previews, which is exactly what I was suggesting be avoided.
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AFAIK there is nothing unusual about my system, Lightroom has always imported in this two-stage way as far back as I can remember. Based on this I see no 'safety' benefit from copying files first outside Lightroom, then using an ADD import process. On the contrary, as this takes away the possibility of using the "Second Copy on Import" option, as well as having to manually setup import folders, I see nothing but downside from that approach.
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It still begs the question why some people are experiencing very slow imports, damaged image files, and other related import problems from memory cards? My guess (and it's only a guess) is that they have 1) 'Rename Files,' 2) 'Automatically write changes into XMP,' or 3) 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files' checked in LR preferences. It would be a good idea for anyone experiencing import issues to try an import with these three (3) options unselected.
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I've been shooting RAW+JPEG with my Nikon D80. I use the "stacking" feature of Aperture when I import the images. But Aperture seems to want to put the JPEGs on top, rather than the RAW files.
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Auto stack to 0:00 (like I first described).
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