JRE 1.5.0.06 & ATI Rage XL PCI Graphics Controller

Hi,
I am quite new with Java so my message maybe a little vague and missing certain information.
We have a 3rd party application running on Citrix which when certain functions are carried out within the application it opens a Java window!
The problems we are getting are occasional crashes on opening certain screens and text from a dialog box missing and also very rarely the screen goes grey and you can only get back by moving the mouse over areas of the grey box.
We were originally on earlier releases of JRE so we have upgraded to try and tackle the problem but the issues still occur so I started to search the java forums and I have read there are problems with JRE and some ATI graphics controllers.
The graphics driver on the server is from the ATI RAGE XL PCI Family and is version 5.10.2600.6014.
Regards,
Chad

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I chose 1920x1080 resolution.
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The Rage 128 card is pretty limited by today's technology. With older Macs, it was common for the computer to start to a fixed default resolution and then change to the user's setting after all the extensions and preferences loaded. It's possible that the card or the monitor are trying for an unsupported resolution at startup.
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† --GPU = graphics processing unit.

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Hi JBernstein,
Karl,
I greatly appreciate your efforts to resolve my
question.
No worries, Mate!
To address a question you posed earlier, no, my G4
did not come with a ADC port. I have both VGA and
DVI-D ports on my G4/500 (Graphite) with the Rage 128
Pro ADP card, which is 16 mb and 2x.
From that, I would infer that you computer is not ADC enabled.
It was the Genius at
the Apple Store who mentioned the Radeon 9000 card as
a replacement. but he also suggested that the current
20" Apple display would work with my G4 ... we tried
that today, and the OS would not launch and power the
display. SO, we must replace the card, or live with
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responses.
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I want to use a new extra monitor I got recently, with my laptop, I use aweosme.
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http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/ati5.html
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=201482
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I red in a post (not in this one) mach64 chips supported dual head, but I can't find it again, I will post it when I find it.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: ok here it is, where it say its supported: I don't understand all the configs.
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver … ff432c36bf
Last edited by ismaelvc (2012-06-29 03:52:09)

Sorry to necrobump but I was seeing you get a lot of incorrect information on LinuxQuestions.
The mach64 driver does NOT support dualhead. Some chips are capable of it but this feature has yet to be added to the driver. It is also not compatible with xrandr. The man page you linked to mentioning dualhead support is for xf86-video-ati. It is only accessible from the git history of xf86-video-mach64 because those drivers used to live in the same source tree.
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There are no current video cards (with engines newer than the ATI Rage 128 that allow video input), the newer cards only have S-Video, DVI and VGA output. Using them is simple. Plug in the desired device and boot your machine, at least thats how it should work.
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http://www.ati.com/products/ragepro/xclaimvr/features.html

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