Judging a Professional Grade

Hi, this may seem like an amateur question (well, it is, I guess), but here's my issue:
I just got into using Color v1 after many years on FCP and I bought myself a Matrox MXO2 Mini (Composite/Component/HDMI out) to help my grading.
At home I have an old CRT I am using, at my friends house he has a mid-range Samsung HDTV, and at work I have a Full HD 60" Sony Bravia (it's massive anyway).
I grade on Color using these monitors and my movie ends up being a lot darker than when I did a brief grade on FCP using my MacBook Pro" (unibody 1st gen) LED screen.
I'm concerned that for sending the movie digitally and DVDs, it's going to be too dark if I use the monitor's to grade as opposed to my LED screen. So how do I judge a professional grade that will be good over all formats/mediums? Do I just have to find an equilibrium? Or am I doing it wrong.
Ideally I want this to look its best on a digital projector at short film festivals and on my DVD screeners (to get into those festivals)... Any tips?
This is a very vague question I know, but perhaps you guys and girls have some experience and can pass it on...
Thanks for reading this far.
Will
Message was edited by: Shadowplay

COLOR operates in CCIR601/709 space which has a gamma coefficient of 2.2.
Your graphics monitor operates in 1.8 space, so everything carried out in 2.2 space will look darker.
jPo

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Hello folks and happy new year.
I'm a long-time Eudora user. Suddenly I discover something I need that Eudora can't do so I wondered if it's time to switch to Mail. But, on even a superficial examination, Mail appears to be way short of a professional standard. Just one example — Apple calls Mail's "search" feature powerful but, to me, it seems pathetically-weak.
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